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Postby zan » Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:46 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
zan wrote:
Oracle wrote:... Listen Sven ..... there are some screws missing ... :?


Well don't shake your head so much...We don't want any accidents now do we!!!


What a double act, huh! :wink:

Morecambe and Wise are envying us from their graves .... :lol:

(They are both dead right? :? )



WRONG




:oops: Sorry Earnie!!!!!!
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Postby webbo » Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:47 pm

Oracle wrote:
zan wrote:
Oracle wrote:... Listen Sven ..... there are some screws missing ... :?


Well don't shake your head so much...We don't want any accidents now do we!!!


What a double act, huh! :wink:

Morecambe and Wise are envying us from their graves .... :lol:

(They are both dead right? :? )


Well if they weren't before, they surely would be now! :lol:

Bubbles 8)
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:53 pm

webbo wrote:
Oracle wrote:
zan wrote:
Oracle wrote:... Listen Sven ..... there are some screws missing ... :?


Well don't shake your head so much...We don't want any accidents now do we!!!


What a double act, huh! :wink:

Morecambe and Wise are envying us from their graves .... :lol:

(They are both dead right? :? )


Well if they weren't before, they surely would be now! :lol:

Bubbles 8)



April fool day but seems no one fell for it. Oh well for my next trick......
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Postby Nikitas » Thu Apr 03, 2008 12:24 pm

My father was one of those GCs who volunteered for service during World War II. He served as a non com in the Royal Navy. The inducement to volunteer was the victory of Greece over the Italians in 1940 and the later fight against the Germans. The Greek flag which had been outlawed since 1930, was flown again and the Greek national anthem allowed in schools and public meetings. All of this was used by the British administration to get GCs to volunteer and some thousands did, I heard the figure of 30 000 but I am not sure. There were implied promises of union with Greece after the war.

When the GC veterans came back from WWII they waited for the promises to materialise and instead they got Eden's statement that Cyprus could never be free because of its strategic location.

In view of the above EOKA was a natural outcome. As for the morality of guerrila war, well just read Churchill's "we will fight them on the beaches" speech, it says it all. And there is no real difference betweena pilot who unloads bombs on civlians (80 000 of them in Dresden) and a guerrila who lobs a grenade in a cafe. Let us not be hypocrites about these things.
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Postby denizaksulu » Thu Apr 03, 2008 12:54 pm

Nikitas wrote:My father was one of those GCs who volunteered for service during World War II. He served as a non com in the Royal Navy. The inducement to volunteer was the victory of Greece over the Italians in 1940 and the later fight against the Germans. The Greek flag which had been outlawed since 1930, was flown again and the Greek national anthem allowed in schools and public meetings. All of this was used by the British administration to get GCs to volunteer and some thousands did, I heard the figure of 30 000 but I am not sure. There were implied promises of union with Greece after the war.

When the GC veterans came back from WWII they waited for the promises to materialise and instead they got Eden's statement that Cyprus could never be free because of its strategic location.

In view of the above EOKA was a natural outcome. As for the morality of guerrila war, well just read Churchill's "we will fight them on the beaches" speech, it says it all. And there is no real difference betweena pilot who unloads bombs on civlians (80 000 of them in Dresden) and a guerrila who lobs a grenade in a cafe. Let us not be hypocrites about these things.


Were the wives of British servicemen 'fair game' in your opinion? Or were they the work of a few 'hot heads'?
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Postby Oracle » Thu Apr 03, 2008 12:57 pm

... and the GC children that Harding murdered?
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Postby denizaksulu » Thu Apr 03, 2008 1:07 pm

Oracle wrote:... and the GC children that Harding murdered?



They are ALL the 'innocents' we grieve for Oracle.
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Postby Nikitas » Thu Apr 03, 2008 1:20 pm

Deniz asked:

"Were the wives of British servicemen 'fair game' in your opinion? Or were they the work of a few 'hot heads'?"

The attack on the women in Famagusta is to this day one of the puzzles of the EOKA campaign. It was uncharaceristic and it gave rise to a massive and instant retaliation, which we rarely see mentioned in this forum. We lived in Famagusta then and the experience was not at all pleasant. There was also a mass beating of inmates in the internment camp of Kokkinotrimithia in which a family friend lost an eye. How the men who were already in preventive custody without trial could have been involved in the Famagusta incident is baffling, but rationality went out of the window on that day.
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Postby Oracle » Thu Apr 03, 2008 1:21 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:... and the GC children that Harding murdered?



They are ALL the 'innocents' we grieve for Oracle.


.... Good, then you have answered your own question.
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Postby Paphitis » Thu Apr 03, 2008 1:45 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Nikitas wrote:My father was one of those GCs who volunteered for service during World War II. He served as a non com in the Royal Navy. The inducement to volunteer was the victory of Greece over the Italians in 1940 and the later fight against the Germans. The Greek flag which had been outlawed since 1930, was flown again and the Greek national anthem allowed in schools and public meetings. All of this was used by the British administration to get GCs to volunteer and some thousands did, I heard the figure of 30 000 but I am not sure. There were implied promises of union with Greece after the war.

When the GC veterans came back from WWII they waited for the promises to materialise and instead they got Eden's statement that Cyprus could never be free because of its strategic location.

In view of the above EOKA was a natural outcome. As for the morality of guerrila war, well just read Churchill's "we will fight them on the beaches" speech, it says it all. And there is no real difference betweena pilot who unloads bombs on civlians (80 000 of them in Dresden) and a guerrila who lobs a grenade in a cafe. Let us not be hypocrites about these things.


Were the wives of British servicemen 'fair game' in your opinion? Or were they the work of a few 'hot heads'?


Let me just say this. "Collateral damage". If it is good enough for the Turkish Army and Mr Bush (Iraq war), well............................
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