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[kurupetos]

Remember also the many innocent victims of EOKA. There were many, GCs and TCs. Also british servicemens women folk. They were innocent victims too.

I agree but as in every war there are victims. Also remember the brutal tortures and executions of many EOKA fighters.

[kurupetos]

Mrs.Catherine Cutliffe, her daughter Margaret, and their German born friend Mrs. Elfriede Robinson, were shopping in Famagusta's Hermes Street. It was a special day for the Cutliffe family, Margaret was shopping for her Trousseau, she was engaged to a member of her father's regiment, 29 Field R.A. As they were leaving a shop in the Greek quarter of Famagusta (Varosha), Margaret was carrying her wedding dress.

They had taken but a few steps, when two youths opened fire on them, from behind, one gunman shot Mrs. Cutliffe twice in the back, then twice more, as she lay bleeding on the street, Mrs Robinson was shot by the other youth, who continued to shoot her as she lay on the pavement, Margaret by some miracle was unhurt, Mrs Robinson eventually recovered from her injuries, but Mrs Cutliffe died almost immediately.


And many many more cowardly attacks from the rear.

As I said there are innocent victims in every war. The real murderers were the british government who repeatedly fooled and refused self determination to Cypriots.

[purdey]

Take without paying, where do you get this from...get real my friend EOKA was hated by the majority of Cypriots, still is. All terrorist organisations that kill the innocent are reviled. If they had stuck to attacking British soldiers they may have earned respect, but women and children, old people...please give it a rest...

[kurupetos]

I did except it kurupetos, just don't go on about it. It would be nice to also remember those who died and were injured on both sides...wouldn't it. The rest of Europe and the world seem to be in harmony when remembering war dead and injured from conflicts.
Regarding British colony again...no I could not give a damm, Cyprus offers me the the same if not better business opportunities now, thank you very much.
So you have nothing to fight over my little EOKA friend...

That's good to hear.

[purdey]

How many did the British Government kill over the years..come on give us a figure..Thousands ? please, blind hatred is a decease my friend. As for the innocent..accident yes..point blank in the back, the hand grenade in the coffee shop, indicriminate, cowardly.

[kurupetos]

Take without paying, where do you get this from...get real my friend EOKA was hated by the majority of Cypriots, still is. All terrorist organisations that kill the innocent are reviled. If they had stuck to attacking British soldiers they may have earned respect, but women and children, old people...please give it a rest...

The British exploited the natural resources and antiquities of Cyprus for years.

EOKA was not hated by the majority of Cypriots, just a tiny leftist minority (most AKEL supporters were neutral).

I dont see EOKA as a terrorist organization as I am sure not most GCs do.

I repeat every war has innocent victims. What about the British that kill innocent women and children in Iraq and Afghanistan? And they are not even in their country...

[purdey]

The old Iraq one again..yes we should have stayed at home and let Saddam kill his own, or let his brother go on torturing and raping. Afghanistan, no there we have a group of people (the Taliban) who regard women as sh..,no respect for human life whatsoever..yes let's leave them alone.

[bill cobbett]

Bill,

The EOKA fighters were heroes not murderers. The murderers were the British colonialists who hanged a 17 year old schoolboy (Pallikarides) who didnt kill anyone. The burned Afxentiou alive and much more. Go read a history book. The British should have left Cyprus much earlier when the vast majority of the Cypriot people demanded self determination by peaceful protests in the 30s to 1955. They fooled Cypriots into fighting by the thousands against Germans in WW2 by promising independence.
You dont fight the wolf with words do you?

K. I am trying to make my views understood. I know that these may not be popular views on this subject, that I may be out of line with many in the RoC but I am condemned to hold them for the rest of my life and I will express them and take the consequences.

The poor boys you refer to above ( may they rest in peace ) are an exception to whom I was not referring. I said in my first post "in the main" knowing only too well that there were a few brave boys who had the courage of their convictions and we would do well to commemorate them and them alone today. The rest were murderous, cowardly assassins who all too often directed their campaign against members of their own community.

By the way, I see judicial murders in the same light as say terrorist murders.

(My late grandfather along with several great-uncles ( may they all rest in peace ) were amongst the volunteers recruited to the Cyprus Regiment of the GB army to which K refers. Many did not live to see Cy again and those that did only did so after several years in Nazi POW camps.)

Then consider what EOKA's aims were. It had nothing to do with an independent Cy. was it? Independence from GB was to be swapped for union with Gr. Changing one ruling foreign power for another.

[kurupetos]

Bill,

My grandfather was a member of the same regiment. They were promised self-determination and instead they received punishment from the British themselves. The British knew that the fighting skills they gained during WW2 would act against them in the future. Many of them were left to die and the rest returned to Cyprus with many health problems.

The idea of EOKA was pure and nobody forced them to start the guerilla fight as they received little help from Greece. What I wanted to commemorate throughtout this thread was that pure idea of freedom and not celebrate immoral incidents against innocent people that are possible in every war. I hope my point is clear.

[kurupetos]

The old Iraq one again..yes we should have stayed at home and let Saddam kill his own, or let his brother go on torturing and raping. Afghanistan, no there we have a group of people (the Taliban) who regard women as sh..,no respect for human life whatsoever..yes let's leave them alone.

Come on, I thought you were smarter than that...