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Postby Nikitas » Mon Mar 31, 2008 2:18 pm

Water shortage was endemic. Like Deniz says, in the 50s there were water shortages and no tourism or talk of global climate change. Back then water for irrigation was sold at so many Cyprus pounds per hour. Having water on your land to sell meant instant wealth. My grandfather was revered in the village because he had built an aqueduct that brought running water from three miles distant.

What is irksome about this problem is that there is no indigenous technology to deal with it. If you exclude the wise use practices of the past, modern Cyprus seems to be waiting for answers from abroad. Every river that could be dammed has been and the problem is still there. Got to start thinking out of the box for a change.
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Postby Nikitas » Mon Mar 31, 2008 2:27 pm

Icy you ask who cares. Well no one has to care, if water becomes valuable enough, therefore profitable enough people will bring it at a price. A friend of mine had company in Greece in the 80s which shipped water in tankers to popular tourist islands like Mykonos and Tinos. The company went bust when Mykonos invested in two desalinators. Now it has no problem. But Mykonos, being aware of the importance of tourism, especially the high end tourists it attracts (among others!!!) took matters in its own hands.

Symi is another island that was totally dry. All the water was whatever could be collected from rains and from a small solar desalinator donated after WWII by the American Air force. Now it has a desalinator and plenty of water. The irony is that while Athens might have water cuts this summer, Symi and Mykonos will not. There is a lesson for Cyprus in these examples.
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Postby denizaksulu » Mon Mar 31, 2008 3:02 pm

Nikitas wrote:Icy you ask who cares. Well no one has to care, if water becomes valuable enough, therefore profitable enough people will bring it at a price. A friend of mine had company in Greece in the 80s which shipped water in tankers to popular tourist islands like Mykonos and Tinos. The company went bust when Mykonos invested in two desalinators. Now it has no problem. But Mykonos, being aware of the importance of tourism, especially the high end tourists it attracts (among others!!!) took matters in its own hands.

Symi is another island that was totally dry. All the water was whatever could be collected from rains and from a small solar desalinator donated after WWII by the American Air force. Now it has a desalinator and plenty of water. The irony is that while Athens might have water cuts this summer, Symi and Mykonos will not. There is a lesson for Cyprus in these examples.


I can not understand with the Touristic set-ups in the south why no de-salination plants. Its ok to build and build, why not desalination? or am I missing something?
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Postby webbo » Mon Mar 31, 2008 3:07 pm

IcyNoAngel wrote:This really sucks!!! :evil:
What the Hell is happening on this island? We are f***ing sorrounded by WATER and ... you see, they-ve cut mine, I have water only 3 das a week.

What should I do? Drink only wine? That might be an idea, until I get FIRED!!!

Forgot to say, might not have been clear: This Sucks!!!


Better team up with Miltiades when he is over then as I believe he likes a drop or two of the old krasi! :lol:

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Postby webbo » Mon Mar 31, 2008 3:14 pm

Nikitas wrote:Dont worry, water is coming from Greece in super tankers. The "motherlands" are coming to the rescue of poor wee Cyprus. Sounds kind of scary for some reason.

For my money desalination and proper management of water at every level, including personal level, is the way to do it. And there ought to be a department at every university dealing with water technology and research.


Hope it is soon.........................! How long can Greece supply Cyprus? Take it you have desalination undergo over there too.

Who brunts the cost of this lengthy and no doubt very costly procedure I wonder :? :? :? :?

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Postby webbo » Mon Mar 31, 2008 3:17 pm

Bill wrote:
Nikitas wrote:Dont worry, water is coming from Greece in super tankers. The "motherlands" are coming to the rescue of poor wee Cyprus. Sounds kind of scary for some reason.



Nice idea BUT you don't have the infrastructure to deal with the water when it arrives unless you fill up road tankers at the port.

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:? I thought this was underway too...................

Maybe the tankers will just act as water bowsers and we all have to go and collect water from them..................... :lol:

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Postby cyprusgrump » Mon Mar 31, 2008 3:18 pm

webbo wrote:
Bill wrote:
Nikitas wrote:Dont worry, water is coming from Greece in super tankers. The "motherlands" are coming to the rescue of poor wee Cyprus. Sounds kind of scary for some reason.



Nice idea BUT you don't have the infrastructure to deal with the water when it arrives unless you fill up road tankers at the port.

Bill


:? I thought this was underway too...................

Maybe the tankers will just act as water bowsers and we all have to go and collect water from them..................... :lol:

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Perhaps the EU will bung us a few million to solve the problem? :?
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Postby Bill » Mon Mar 31, 2008 3:18 pm

Kikapu wrote:Lack of water may be a good way to get rid of all those who do not belong on the island, just so that the "natives" have enough water just for themselves, animals and fields.


You only have your selves to blame for the acute lack of vision regarding the water situation.

Droughts are not new to Cyprus ~ 1998 springs immediately to mind and at the time extra desalination plants were proposed so hopefully we would never be in that situation again, sadly due to disagreements within the political arena it didn't happen.

As for getting rid of those "not native to Cyprus", you or should I say your compatriots have sold their soul to the foreign investor by the huge building program over the last few years and the promoting of how wonderful Cyprus life is at UK exhibitions and through agents within Cyprus ~ you really are a victim of your own success.

A lot of people have become very rich off the back of the developing game plus of course providing employment to the TC's and half of Eastern Europe ~ building requires a hell of a lot of water and becomes a take from one to give to the other scenario.

Those natives ( your words ) complaining about the influx of immigrants to your sunny isle all wasting their precious water should stop and think of the unbelievable amount wasted by the natives when they wash down the outsides of their houses at least twice a day ~ it's a common sight irrespective of how desperately short of water you may be and will never stop until the government really makes the effort to do something about it and motivates the police to take action and fine those involved.

I'm afraid those not native to Cyprus are here to stay ~ and they want their share of the available water after all it was the "natives" that sold us the "Cyprus is wonderful dream"

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Postby tessintrnc » Mon Mar 31, 2008 4:10 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Nikitas wrote:Icy you ask who cares. Well no one has to care, if water becomes valuable enough, therefore profitable enough people will bring it at a price. A friend of mine had company in Greece in the 80s which shipped water in tankers to popular tourist islands like Mykonos and Tinos. The company went bust when Mykonos invested in two desalinators. Now it has no problem. But Mykonos, being aware of the importance of tourism, especially the high end tourists it attracts (among others!!!) took matters in its own hands.

Symi is another island that was totally dry. All the water was whatever could be collected from rains and from a small solar desalinator donated after WWII by the American Air force. Now it has a desalinator and plenty of water. The irony is that while Athens might have water cuts this summer, Symi and Mykonos will not. There is a lesson for Cyprus in these examples.


I can not understand with the Touristic set-ups in the south why no de-salination plants. Its ok to build and build, why not desalination? or am I missing something?


The new Golf club and many of the new sites in the Esentepe region have their own de-salination plants - perhaps it should become law for the builders, that if the site is large enough, that it has to be self sufficient in water?
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Postby cyprusgrump » Mon Mar 31, 2008 4:16 pm

I was at Aphrodite Hills Golf Club this morning – they are ‘awaiting approval’ for a desalination plant…

They must be shitting themselves actually, the place has about a trillion plants and trees now, plus the greens of course – a water shortage would be disastrous for them…
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