Kikapu wrote:what a load of bollox
Yes Zan, If the TC's left Cyprus as Refugees, and they are refused access back to their land and property, then their children too becomes a refugees status if they are born after their departure. Palestinians who were evicted by the Israelis who have been living in Jordan and other countries are still Refugees, even after 60 years have passed. Why, because they cannot return back to their land. Are the TC's (refugees) who have left Cyprus after 1963 refused access to their land and homes anywhere in Cyprus ?. If not, then how can you declare them as Refugees. If they chose not to go to their properties, then it is a personal choice, unless they are in physical danger of being hurt. Can you make any claims, that if any TC that wants to return back to their property in the South will be hurt.? Since few thousand TC's already live in the South and many more thousands cross everyday to work, and many many thousands more TC's hold a RoC citizenship's, how can you claim them being Refugees. But if they are, then their children are also. Large majority of the TC's who have left the properties in the South, which they remain as legal owners, have been compensated with stolen GC's in the North, so for most, they do not see the incentive to move back. Had that not been done, illegally I may add, Cyprus problem could have been solved long time ago. Now you have Morally Corrupted making a living in dealings with stolen GC properties. They are also known as Neo-Partitionist.Those numbers you quote just shows that like others you only read Greek propaganda and you have done no other reading to bring you up to date and make you know the Cyprob for real...Your numbers are as fake as you are mate....
Yes Zan, always shoot the messenger if you do not like to hear, what it is that you don't like to hear. Then again, how can you accept anything to be valid, if you are an accomplice in accepting the wrong doings to others.
There is nothing fake about me. If there was, you would have seen it in the last two years since I have been on the forum, or are you that Stupid to have missed it until recently, and if you don't think you have missed it, then that makes you
Double Stupid for coming to a wrong conclusion. Keep up with your assessments of me and soon you will find yourself being in the Double-Double Stupid level.
Lets see where you will end up this time next year Zan. My guess is, you will run out of Doubles.!!!
The United Nations definition of "Palestinian refugee" is as follows:
"Palestine refugees are persons whose normal place of residence was Palestine between June 1946 and May 1948, who lost their homes and means of livelihood as a result of the 1948 Arab-Israeli conflict"
This definition of a refugee also covers " the descendants of persons who became refugees in 1948.
In contrast of the United Nations definition of a “normal” (everybody else) "refugee" which is as follows:
” owing to a well-founded fear of being persecuted for reasons of race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion, is outside the country of his nationality, and is unable to or, owing to such fear, is unwilling to avail himself of the protection of that country.
In an amazing definition a Palestinian refugee is vastly different than a "normal" refugee.
In addition those who claim refugee status and live in Cyprus (TC or GC) under UN definitions do not hold refugee status but "Internally-Displaced Persons" Status.
The question regarding fear would be down to each refugee (From 63 to 75) who could say what would happen if all the TC's refugees living overseas came back to the South and demanded their land and property. i think there would be major issues and persecution of them.
