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UK IS IN FAVOR OF A SOLUTION IN CYPRUS

Postby halil » Fri Mar 28, 2008 9:40 am

British Minister in Charge of European Affairs Jim Murphy has said his country is in favor of the reunification of Cyprus.

Speaking at a gathering in north London, where Turkish Cypriots densely populated, Mr Murphy said Britain does not have any plans for a solution in Cyprus but it concentrated its energy for the solution of the problem.

He also stated that Britain is ready to contribute to all efforts towards finding a settlement in Cyprus.

The Minister said Britains feels great responsibility on the Cyprus issue as a permanent member of the UN Security Council, a member of the European Union and one of the three guarantor powers in Cyprus.

Stating that Britain is focused on a bi-communal, bi-zonal solution on the island, he said Britain is planning to bring together Turkish Cypriot and Greek Cypriot representatives in the country.

Mr Murphy is expected to arrive in Turkey on Monday for contacts with Turkish officials.
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Postby zan » Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:24 am

He also said that he would be looking into why the direct flights had not been lifted and the easing of isolation.

He asked us to give Christofias a chance but he would judge him on his actions and not just the fact that he had "deposed" Tpap.

Apart from that we gave him an easy ride as it was his first meeting with us..... :wink:
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Postby Nurgary » Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:31 am

zan wrote:He also said that he would be looking into why the direct flights had not been lifted and the easing of isolation.

He asked us to give Christofias a chance but he would judge him on his actions and not just the fact that he had "deposed" Tpap.

Apart from that we gave him an easy ride as it was his first meeting with us..... :wink:


Thank you for expanding on what was said - not what some want to here. But looks positive.
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Postby zan » Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:42 am

Nurgary wrote:
zan wrote:He also said that he would be looking into why the direct flights had not been lifted and the easing of isolation.

He asked us to give Christofias a chance but he would judge him on his actions and not just the fact that he had "deposed" Tpap.

Apart from that we gave him an easy ride as it was his first meeting with us..... :wink:


Thank you for expanding on what was said - not what some want to here. But looks positive.


This was about all he said. He left us angry really because he failed to answer any real questions. He did a double act with Joan Ryan and mumbled his way through and left me with a head ache trying to hear and understand him. As I said, we were respectful and polite this time around but the next time will be harder for him I am sure. As to his own words....We will judge him on his actions :wink: :wink:

Having said that Joan Ryan seems to be a lovely person but a politician none the less.
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Postby BC Numismatics » Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:06 am

A bizonal system based on whether a Cypriot speaks Cypriot Greek or Cypriot Turkish is NOT reunification.There is only ONE Cyprus - neither Greek nor Turkish,but Cypriot!

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Postby Paphitis » Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:25 pm

zan wrote:He also said that he would be looking into why the direct flights had not been lifted and the easing of isolation.

He asked us to give Christofias a chance but he would judge him on his actions and not just the fact that he had "deposed" Tpap.

Apart from that we gave him an easy ride as it was his first meeting with us..... :wink:


I will tell you why there will be no direct flights ever. Because ERCAN is not recognised by the International Civil Aviation Organisation (ICAO) for 2 reasons:

1) It does not meet safety standards (MOS part 139),and
2) Any recognition of ERCAN will result in defacto recognition of the "TRNC" by ICAO and the UN itself.

Ercan airport is not even on any aviation chart, except for the ones issued by Turkey.

Recognition is not going to happen. So keep dreaming Zan.
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Postby Oracle » Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:29 pm

Paphitis wrote:
zan wrote:He also said that he would be looking into why the direct flights had not been lifted and the easing of isolation.

He asked us to give Christofias a chance but he would judge him on his actions and not just the fact that he had "deposed" Tpap.

Apart from that we gave him an easy ride as it was his first meeting with us..... :wink:


I will tell you why there will be no direct flights ever. Because ERCAN is not recognised bi the International Civil Aviation Authority for 2 reasons:

1) It does not meet safety standards (MOS part 139),and
2) Any recognition of ERCAN will result in defacto recognition of the "TRNC" by ICAO and the UN itself.

Ercan airport is not even on any aviation chart, except for the ones issued by Turkey.

That is not going to happen. So keep dreaming Zan.


They'll have about as much success as this did:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=rJTNcaCRlB4

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Postby Nurgary » Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:36 pm

Paphitis wrote:
zan wrote:He also said that he would be looking into why the direct flights had not been lifted and the easing of isolation.

He asked us to give Christofias a chance but he would judge him on his actions and not just the fact that he had "deposed" Tpap.

Apart from that we gave him an easy ride as it was his first meeting with us..... :wink:


I will tell you why there will be no direct flights ever. Because ERCAN is not recognised bi the International Civil Aviation Authority for 2 reasons:

1) It does not meet safety standards (MOS part 139),and
2) Any recognition of ERCAN will result in defacto recognition of the "TRNC" by ICAO and the UN itself.

Ercan airport is not even on any aviation chart, except for the ones issued by Turkey.

That is not going to happen. So keep dreaming Zan.


FAA have inspected Ercan twice and it in facts fully meets safety standards.

Ercan will open and be fully recognised as many outside of the South clearly have said it would not be illegal to fly there as it's not against Chicargo Convention.

Interestingly the other airport has just be leased out to a UK company for cargo flights initially leading onto carter flights later. This also was inspected by FAA and found to meet international safety standards also.
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Postby Paphitis » Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:50 pm

Nurgary wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
zan wrote:He also said that he would be looking into why the direct flights had not been lifted and the easing of isolation.

He asked us to give Christofias a chance but he would judge him on his actions and not just the fact that he had "deposed" Tpap.

Apart from that we gave him an easy ride as it was his first meeting with us..... :wink:


I will tell you why there will be no direct flights ever. Because ERCAN is not recognised bi the International Civil Aviation Authority for 2 reasons:

1) It does not meet safety standards (MOS part 139),and
2) Any recognition of ERCAN will result in defacto recognition of the "TRNC" by ICAO and the UN itself.

Ercan airport is not even on any aviation chart, except for the ones issued by Turkey.

That is not going to happen. So keep dreaming Zan.


FAA have inspected Ercan twice and it in facts fully meets safety standards.

Ercan will open and be fully recognised as many outside of the South clearly have said it would not be illegal to fly there as it's not against Chicargo Convention.

Interestingly the other airport has just be leased out to a UK company for cargo flights initially leading onto carter flights later. This also was inspected by FAA and found to meet international safety standards also.


If it was inspected by FAA, then it meets American Safety standards but not ICAO standards. There are many safety issues present with the mere existance of ERCAN such as non reporting of aircraft entering Nicosia FIR. A permanent Notice to All Airmen (NOTAM) is issued if you lodge a flight plan that enters Nicosia FIR, warning aircraft of the possibility of non reported aircraft and the risks of violating minimum seperation standards.

Also, ERCAN does not have an ILS approach for low or zero visibility landings. It is a mere visual airport which means aircraft can not descend below the Minimum Safe Altitude (MSA) when within 25 nautical miles of ERCAN. This means that under Instrument Metereorologial Conditions (IMC), aircraft must divert to their alternate safe aerodrome where they will be able to land in IMC.

My qeustion is, if FAA have recognised ERCAN, then why do they not have direct flights?

And do not confuse charter with Regular Public Transport operations. Charter companies are not required to follow the same standards as RPT companies. You may get the odd charter, but you will never get any direct RPTs.
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Postby Paphitis » Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:58 pm

And I am now sick of argueing with you all about the legalities of ERCAN. I feel like I keep going around in circles. I know that deep down you all know that it is an illegal aerodrome that is recognised by no one except for Turkey. :lol:

So, accept reality. ERCAN will not be recognised and will never accept scheduled RPT aircraft. The "TRNC" will never be recognised either.

So keep dreaming. You are all like children living in a fantasy world. :!: :?: :?: :?: :!: :!: :!: :?: :?: :?:
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