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UK IS IN FAVOR OF A SOLUTION IN CYPRUS

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Viewpoint » Sat Mar 29, 2008 8:53 pm

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I sleep through flights so not a problem for me, illegal is only illegal if you can enforce legality....GC would have stopped flights to the TRNC a long time ago if they could, they cant so life goes on.


Following your logic, as long as you can get away with illegal acts, then it is not a crime. !!!

Is that what you teach your children VP.???

So, if your son becomes "Jack the Ripper" of the "TRNC", he has done nothing wrong, until he is caught.!!

He is only 9 years old VP, so you still have time to set him straight so not to follow your thoughts of logic (contradiction in terms...I know).

If it's already too late to set him straight VP, then I hope he becomes a Bank Robber, so that way he gets rich with others money.

Kind of what goes on now actually.!!

That's not illegal either, is it VP.??

I did not think so.!!


If there is no enforceable punishment then the crime will no longer be a crime. If you kill someone and no one can do anything to punish you eg lock you away or hang you then the crime is not deemed a crime as the perpetrator goes scot free. You can write down its a crime but if theres no penalty then people will not stop doing it. I teach my children right and wrong and they know they will be punished if they do wrong but fly into the TRNC is not punishable so we will all continue to do so as long as you cannot enforce punishment or stop us from doing so.



VP - Make no mistake about it: To live in the TRNC and being a TC are "punishable" and we are being punished just for that since 1963. This punishment includes but certainly is not limited to our economic, cultural, political and representation ambargo. Not being able to fly to Ercan from London is just one of the "perks" that come with the package.

Killing someone and walking around freely because there is no law to punish you is a completely different situation than traveling home and walking around freely despite violating what is dictated by the political interests of foreigners and/or the ones responsible for our devastation during the past 45 years.


Murat I agree with you the examples are 2 extremes and was only given to emphasis the point, the isolation is a direct policy of the GC side to squeeze us into submission but we have shown over 45 years that it will never work TCs are prepared to pay 1000 times more becuase the alternative is being forced into a minority status in a GC state run by GCs.
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Postby humanist » Sat Mar 29, 2008 8:59 pm

you're laughable you are ...... you exploit other peoples properties and freedom to their country and you expect to have no consequences. Go the RoC for all the isolation it throws your way buddy. I don't want anyone living in my home and I certainly did not give them permission and I certainly shouldn't have to show my ID card to see my country.
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Postby humanist » Sat Mar 29, 2008 9:02 pm

the UK couldn't give a shit about Cyprus or its people. If they were pro solution they would hand back the territory they occupy and assist in a solution course.


I just wish they go and take over the rest of Ireland and lives Cyprus alone.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Mar 29, 2008 9:14 pm

humanist wrote:you're laughable you are ...... you exploit other peoples properties and freedom to their country and you expect to have no consequences. Go the RoC for all the isolation it throws your way buddy. I don't want anyone living in my home and I certainly did not give them permission and I certainly shouldn't have to show my ID card to see my country.


Im glad I made you laugh but the joke is really on you as you have not noticed that we are divided and have been for 34 years, we claim we have a country although unrecognized but you haveto show your passport when entering our country, just like we show id when entering yours.

As for consequences you are right the price we pay for having our own country is non recogntion and isolation but the price you pay is loss of land and your homes, look on the bright side of things you have the GC state you have always longed for, recogntion and the benefits that go with it, our land and if you consider the EU a plus then the EU as well.
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Postby zan » Sat Mar 29, 2008 9:14 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
I sleep through flights so not a problem for me, illegal is only illegal if you can enforce legality....GC would have stopped flights to the TRNC a long time ago if they could, they cant so life goes on.


Following your logic, as long as you can get away with illegal acts, then it is not a crime. !!!

Is that what you teach your children VP.???

So, if your son becomes "Jack the Ripper" of the "TRNC", he has done nothing wrong, until he is caught.!!

He is only 9 years old VP, so you still have time to set him straight so not to follow your thoughts of logic (contradiction in terms...I know).

If it's already too late to set him straight VP, then I hope he becomes a Bank Robber, so that way he gets rich with others money.

Kind of what goes on now actually.!!

That's not illegal either, is it VP.??

I did not think so.!!



The UN and the rest of the world stuck a bloody medal on your Greek murderers and recognised them as the legitimate government of Cyprus but I still don't see any protests from you on that account mate :roll: :roll: :roll: Your Greek brothers have gotten rich while my cousins lived off handouts from my poor family in the UK so where is the concern for that :roll: :roll: :roll: You are becoming more and more rediculous day by day sweety....But we luv ya!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Nurgary » Sat Mar 29, 2008 9:20 pm

humanist wrote:the UK couldn't give a shit about Cyprus or its people. If they were pro solution they would hand back the territory they occupy and assist in a solution course.


I just wish they go and take over the rest of Ireland and lives Cyprus alone.


Hand back - how can they hand back something which was not part of the RoC. Now HMG may give it to somebody.
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Postby Kikapu » Sat Mar 29, 2008 9:55 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Murataga wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
I sleep through flights so not a problem for me, illegal is only illegal if you can enforce legality....GC would have stopped flights to the TRNC a long time ago if they could, they cant so life goes on.


Following your logic, as long as you can get away with illegal acts, then it is not a crime. !!!

Is that what you teach your children VP.???

So, if your son becomes "Jack the Ripper" of the "TRNC", he has done nothing wrong, until he is caught.!!

He is only 9 years old VP, so you still have time to set him straight so not to follow your thoughts of logic (contradiction in terms...I know).

If it's already too late to set him straight VP, then I hope he becomes a Bank Robber, so that way he gets rich with others money.

Kind of what goes on now actually.!!

That's not illegal either, is it VP.??

I did not think so.!!


If there is no enforceable punishment then the crime will no longer be a crime. If you kill someone and no one can do anything to punish you eg lock you away or hang you then the crime is not deemed a crime as the perpetrator goes scot free. You can write down its a crime but if theres no penalty then people will not stop doing it. I teach my children right and wrong and they know they will be punished if they do wrong but fly into the TRNC is not punishable so we will all continue to do so as long as you cannot enforce punishment or stop us from doing so.



VP - Make no mistake about it: To live in the TRNC and being a TC are "punishable" and we are being punished just for that since 1963. This punishment includes but certainly is not limited to our economic, cultural, political and representation ambargo. Not being able to fly to Ercan from London is just one of the "perks" that come with the package.

Killing someone and walking around freely because there is no law to punish you is a completely different situation than traveling home and walking around freely despite violating what is dictated by the political interests of foreigners and/or the ones responsible for our devastation during the past 45 years.


Murat I agree with you the examples are 2 extremes and was only given to emphasis the point, the isolation is a direct policy of the GC side to squeeze us into submission but we have shown over 45 years that it will never work TCs are prepared to pay 1000 times more becuase the alternative is being forced into a minority status in a GC state run by GCs.


VP,

You are lucky Murataga stepped in before me to set you straight, or else I was going to give it to you myself....with both barrels.!!! It just goes to show what I have been saying for a while about being "Morally Corrupted" and "Corrupted Societies" that are generated when a society can't tell the difference between Right and Wrong. As long as one gets away with it, then it is not a crime. :roll: :roll: :roll:

Count your blessings that Murataga saved you from further embarrassment.!!!
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Postby zan » Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:00 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Murataga wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
I sleep through flights so not a problem for me, illegal is only illegal if you can enforce legality....GC would have stopped flights to the TRNC a long time ago if they could, they cant so life goes on.


Following your logic, as long as you can get away with illegal acts, then it is not a crime. !!!

Is that what you teach your children VP.???

So, if your son becomes "Jack the Ripper" of the "TRNC", he has done nothing wrong, until he is caught.!!

He is only 9 years old VP, so you still have time to set him straight so not to follow your thoughts of logic (contradiction in terms...I know).

If it's already too late to set him straight VP, then I hope he becomes a Bank Robber, so that way he gets rich with others money.

Kind of what goes on now actually.!!

That's not illegal either, is it VP.??

I did not think so.!!


If there is no enforceable punishment then the crime will no longer be a crime. If you kill someone and no one can do anything to punish you eg lock you away or hang you then the crime is not deemed a crime as the perpetrator goes scot free. You can write down its a crime but if theres no penalty then people will not stop doing it. I teach my children right and wrong and they know they will be punished if they do wrong but fly into the TRNC is not punishable so we will all continue to do so as long as you cannot enforce punishment or stop us from doing so.



VP - Make no mistake about it: To live in the TRNC and being a TC are "punishable" and we are being punished just for that since 1963. This punishment includes but certainly is not limited to our economic, cultural, political and representation ambargo. Not being able to fly to Ercan from London is just one of the "perks" that come with the package.

Killing someone and walking around freely because there is no law to punish you is a completely different situation than traveling home and walking around freely despite violating what is dictated by the political interests of foreigners and/or the ones responsible for our devastation during the past 45 years.


Murat I agree with you the examples are 2 extremes and was only given to emphasis the point, the isolation is a direct policy of the GC side to squeeze us into submission but we have shown over 45 years that it will never work TCs are prepared to pay 1000 times more becuase the alternative is being forced into a minority status in a GC state run by GCs.


VP,

You are lucky Murataga stepped in before me to set you straight, or else I was going to give it to you myself....with both barrels.!!! It just goes to show what I have been saying for a while about being "Morally Corrupted" and "Corrupted Societies" that are generated when a society can't tell the difference between Right and Wrong. As long as one gets away with it, then it is not a crime. :roll: :roll: :roll:

Count your blessings that Murataga saved you from further embarrassment.!!!




The UN and the rest of the world stuck a bloody medal on your Greek murderers and recognised them as the legitimate government of Cyprus but I still don't see any protests from you on that account mate Your Greek brothers have gotten rich while my cousins lived off handouts from my poor family in the UK so where is the concern for that You are becoming more and more rediculous day by day sweety....But we luv ya!!!
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:16 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Murataga wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
I sleep through flights so not a problem for me, illegal is only illegal if you can enforce legality....GC would have stopped flights to the TRNC a long time ago if they could, they cant so life goes on.


Following your logic, as long as you can get away with illegal acts, then it is not a crime. !!!

Is that what you teach your children VP.???

So, if your son becomes "Jack the Ripper" of the "TRNC", he has done nothing wrong, until he is caught.!!

He is only 9 years old VP, so you still have time to set him straight so not to follow your thoughts of logic (contradiction in terms...I know).

If it's already too late to set him straight VP, then I hope he becomes a Bank Robber, so that way he gets rich with others money.

Kind of what goes on now actually.!!

That's not illegal either, is it VP.??

I did not think so.!!


If there is no enforceable punishment then the crime will no longer be a crime. If you kill someone and no one can do anything to punish you eg lock you away or hang you then the crime is not deemed a crime as the perpetrator goes scot free. You can write down its a crime but if theres no penalty then people will not stop doing it. I teach my children right and wrong and they know they will be punished if they do wrong but fly into the TRNC is not punishable so we will all continue to do so as long as you cannot enforce punishment or stop us from doing so.



VP - Make no mistake about it: To live in the TRNC and being a TC are "punishable" and we are being punished just for that since 1963. This punishment includes but certainly is not limited to our economic, cultural, political and representation ambargo. Not being able to fly to Ercan from London is just one of the "perks" that come with the package.

Killing someone and walking around freely because there is no law to punish you is a completely different situation than traveling home and walking around freely despite violating what is dictated by the political interests of foreigners and/or the ones responsible for our devastation during the past 45 years.


Murat I agree with you the examples are 2 extremes and was only given to emphasis the point, the isolation is a direct policy of the GC side to squeeze us into submission but we have shown over 45 years that it will never work TCs are prepared to pay 1000 times more becuase the alternative is being forced into a minority status in a GC state run by GCs.


VP,

You are lucky Murataga stepped in before me to set you straight, or else I was going to give it to you myself....with both barrels.!!! It just goes to show what I have been saying for a while about being "Morally Corrupted" and "Corrupted Societies" that are generated when a society can't tell the difference between Right and Wrong. As long as one gets away with it, then it is not a crime. :roll: :roll: :roll:

Count your blessings that Murataga saved you from further embarrassment.!!!


As I stated in my previous post the 2 examples were extremes to prove the point that your enforced isolation is placing in a difficult situation but the irony is GCs are unable to enforce any punishment on those resident in the TRNC even via international courts, this will never be enough to make us yield to GC demands, you should really be asking those guilty of putting us in this position and ensuring we are kept in isolation at every turn, but I will repeat TCs are prepared to pay this cost 1000 times over because the alternative is being reduced to minority status in a GC state.
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Postby zan » Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:28 pm

VP and Murataga, We have nothing to appologise for.......They are the ones tyhat are SUPPOSED to be living in this fantastic stste where nothing is corrupt and there are bombs and drugs every where...Take a look at the news scrolling below...... :wink: :lol:



welcome back Murat!!!!!
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