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[Paphitis]

Paphitis,
You seem to be a little obsessed with Ercan Airport and its status. There is no doubt that once a solution to the Cyprob is found, Ercan will remain in some capacity.

You can quote all the acronyms you like, be it ICAO, FAA, FIR, NOTAM, IMC, MSA, RPT, IFR, NDB, VOR, ILS and whatever else, but the fact remains that thousands of people currently fly in and out each month.

If as you say it needs to improve in certain aspects then improve it will.
But to say

.......there will be no direct flights ever

is stretching it a little imo.

In another thread on this forum, you even denied that baggage at International airports destined for the TRNC was labelled up with ECN labels.

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=16709&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=80

Whilst you are certainly knowledgeable in the aviation field, stop worrying yourself so much about Ercan. You never know, you may even land there yourself one day

I also said this in a previous thread - that I will never land there even if all my engines are on fire, especially when legal ports such as Pafos and Larnaca are open.

[Paphitis]

Paphitis,
You seem to be a little obsessed with Ercan Airport and its status. There is no doubt that once a solution to the Cyprob is found, Ercan will remain in some capacity.

You can quote all the acronyms you like, be it ICAO, FAA, FIR, NOTAM, IMC, MSA, RPT, IFR, NDB, VOR, ILS and whatever else, but the fact remains that thousands of people currently fly in and out each month.

If as you say it needs to improve in certain aspects then improve it will.
But to say

.......there will be no direct flights ever

is stretching it a little imo.

In another thread on this forum, you even denied that baggage at International airports destined for the TRNC was labelled up with ECN labels.
http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=16709&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=80

Whilst you are certainly knowledgeable in the aviation field, stop worrying yourself so much about Ercan. You never know, you may even land there yourself one day

I would like to see one of these baggage labels issued by any authority other than Turkish airports.

And, I am still waiting for all those Terminal charts, and approach plates. Someone must know a pilot somewhere that can provide them. Please post them on this forum.

[74LB]

This conversation is nonesense!

Internationally, the Republic of Cyprus is recognised as the sole LEGAL authority of the whole island. This is made clear in UN resolutions.

It therefore stands to reason that the Republic of Cyprus can deem any of its ports to be legally open or closed and it is this which counts in international organisations such as ICAO. Turkey cannot deem Ercan to be an open airport, because the northern third of Cyprus is not deemed to be Turkish land, but is under military occupation and as such has ne LEGAL grounds to deem ports and airports to be open to international traffic.

One other problem with Ercan is that in the longterm, it is not a viable airport simply because of the proximity of the Pendadactilos mountains. This poses safety risks in the event aircraft get into difficulty. In the days when Nicosia airport was operating there was an instance of an aircraft crashing into the mountians.

Exactly

Oh come on. Ercan is not a million miles away from Nicosia Airport, or is that never going to be used either as the Pentadactylos mountains ( Beşparmaklar) are a little too close

[74LB]

Paphitis,
You seem to be a little obsessed with Ercan Airport and its status. There is no doubt that once a solution to the Cyprob is found, Ercan will remain in some capacity.

You can quote all the acronyms you like, be it ICAO, FAA, FIR, NOTAM, IMC, MSA, RPT, IFR, NDB, VOR, ILS and whatever else, but the fact remains that thousands of people currently fly in and out each month.

If as you say it needs to improve in certain aspects then improve it will.
But to say

.......there will be no direct flights ever

is stretching it a little imo.

In another thread on this forum, you even denied that baggage at International airports destined for the TRNC was labelled up with ECN labels.
http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=16709&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=80

Whilst you are certainly knowledgeable in the aviation field, stop worrying yourself so much about Ercan. You never know, you may even land there yourself one day

I would like to see one of these baggage labels issued by any authority other than Turkish airports.
And, I am still waiting for all those Terminal charts, and approach plates. Someone must know a pilot somewhere that can provide them. Please post them on this forum.

You are joking about the above. Seriously, you are joking
(apologies for using a little of Oracles colouring )

[Paphitis]

Paphitis,
You seem to be a little obsessed with Ercan Airport and its status. There is no doubt that once a solution to the Cyprob is found, Ercan will remain in some capacity.

You can quote all the acronyms you like, be it ICAO, FAA, FIR, NOTAM, IMC, MSA, RPT, IFR, NDB, VOR, ILS and whatever else, but the fact remains that thousands of people currently fly in and out each month.

If as you say it needs to improve in certain aspects then improve it will.
But to say

.......there will be no direct flights ever

is stretching it a little imo.

In another thread on this forum, you even denied that baggage at International airports destined for the TRNC was labelled up with ECN labels.

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=16709&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=80

Whilst you are certainly knowledgeable in the aviation field, stop worrying yourself so much about Ercan. You never know, you may even land there yourself one day

I also said this in a previous thread - that I will never land there even if all my engines are on fire, especially when legal ports such as Pafos and Larnaca are open.

Having said that above, I may only consider landing at ERCAN only in the event of a severe emergency, my passengers lives are at risk and when for some strange reason no other airport is available. This would be an extremely unlikey scenario.

In emergencies, all bets are off.

[Paphitis]

Paphitis,
You seem to be a little obsessed with Ercan Airport and its status. There is no doubt that once a solution to the Cyprob is found, Ercan will remain in some capacity.

You can quote all the acronyms you like, be it ICAO, FAA, FIR, NOTAM, IMC, MSA, RPT, IFR, NDB, VOR, ILS and whatever else, but the fact remains that thousands of people currently fly in and out each month.

If as you say it needs to improve in certain aspects then improve it will.
But to say

.......there will be no direct flights ever

is stretching it a little imo.

In another thread on this forum, you even denied that baggage at International airports destined for the TRNC was labelled up with ECN labels.
http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=16709&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=80

Whilst you are certainly knowledgeable in the aviation field, stop worrying yourself so much about Ercan. You never know, you may even land there yourself one day

I would like to see one of these baggage labels issued by any authority other than Turkish airports.
And, I am still waiting for all those Terminal charts, and approach plates. Someone must know a pilot somewhere that can provide them. Please post them on this forum.

You are joking about the above. Seriously, you are joking
(apologies for using a little of Oracles colouring )

No I am not joking. I have stated previously that I do not believe that anyone can issue these tags due to non recognition of ERCAN. I am not insisting that I am correct, I just wish to see one as I have my serious doubts.

[denizaksulu]

With a solution or without direct flights will happen. So many in the EU and USA are talking about the isolation of the TRNC.

The reality it's not illegal under any rules to fly there.

What will GC's do if there is direct flights apart from moan and cry about it. Think OIC countries will be the 1st followed by UK and Germany then Russia.

It is illegal to violate Nicosia FIR for starters. And every aircraft arriving into ERCAN violates the NICOSIA FIR, the boundaries of which are set by ICAO and includes the airspace over ERCAN.

re bafidis. Take care you dont have a stroke Your posts are getting bolder and bolder.

[shahmaran]

If ICAO doesn't recognize Ercan then whey does Ercan have an ICAO code (LCEN) listed on their website ?

[Get Real!]

You don't know what they have at Ercan -

I know very well what is there... my family's occupied house and land is about 1km from what use to be a 100m strip of eroding tarmac abandoned by the British, and surrounded by a couple of pig sties.

[74LB]

Paphitis,
You seem to be a little obsessed with Ercan Airport and its status. There is no doubt that once a solution to the Cyprob is found, Ercan will remain in some capacity.

You can quote all the acronyms you like, be it ICAO, FAA, FIR, NOTAM, IMC, MSA, RPT, IFR, NDB, VOR, ILS and whatever else, but the fact remains that thousands of people currently fly in and out each month.

If as you say it needs to improve in certain aspects then improve it will.
But to say

.......there will be no direct flights ever

is stretching it a little imo.

In another thread on this forum, you even denied that baggage at International airports destined for the TRNC was labelled up with ECN labels.
http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=16709&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=80

Whilst you are certainly knowledgeable in the aviation field, stop worrying yourself so much about Ercan. You never know, you may even land there yourself one day

I would like to see one of these baggage labels issued by any authority other than Turkish airports.
And, I am still waiting for all those Terminal charts, and approach plates. Someone must know a pilot somewhere that can provide them. Please post them on this forum.

You are joking about the above. Seriously, you are joking
(apologies for using a little of Oracles colouring )

No I am not joking. I have stated previously that I do not believe that anyone can issue these tags due to non recognition of ERCAN. I am not insisting that I am correct, I just wish to see one as I have my serious doubts.

I'll see if I can take a picture of these ECN tags at Stansted next week for you when I fly to Ercan.

Alternatively, you must have connections so why not ask BAA to see if they can convince you that ECN baggage tags exist and are placed on items destined for the TRNC.