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[Get Real!]

VP and Murataga, We have nothing to appologise for.......They are the ones tyhat are SUPPOSED to be living in this fantastic stste where nothing is corrupt and there are bombs and drugs every where...Take a look at the news scrolling below......



welcome back Murat!!!!!

And 90% of the drugs smuggled into RoC come from the "trnc" you faggot.

Biggest drug haul in GC history was last week - Drugs came in from Greece.

Get your FACTS right! It seems to be a recurring theme with you...

Greece was a transit point but the drugs originated from Albania.

[zan]

VP and Murataga, We have nothing to appologise for.......They are the ones tyhat are SUPPOSED to be living in this fantastic stste where nothing is corrupt and there are bombs and drugs every where...Take a look at the news scrolling below......



welcome back Murat!!!!!

And 90% of the drugs smuggled into RoC come from the "trnc" you faggot.

Biggest drug haul in GC history was last week - Drugs came in from Greece.

Get your FACTS right! It seems to be a recurring theme with you...

Greece was a transit point but the drugs originated from Albania.

Greece just waved them through........Passing more of her shit into the "RoC".....As if Grivas wasn't enough!!

[Paphitis]

Thems rules that only apply to the "RoC"...We are not in the "RoC" and you will find that the UN resolutions say that they are suspended in the TRNC/KKTC......Try doing some crossword puzzles to help you put two and two together...

That briefing is issued to all international aircraft entering the NICOSIA FIR. They are not sespended. Read it more carefully. It is also issued by ICAO and published by Jeppesen.

http://www.jeppesen.com/download/briefbull/fra99-a.pdf

[zan]

Thems rules that only apply to the "RoC"...We are not in the "RoC" and you will find that the UN resolutions say that they are suspended in the TRNC/KKTC......Try doing some crossword puzzles to help you put two and two together...

That briefing is issued to all international aircraft entering the NICOSIA FIR. They are not sespended. Read it more carefully. It is also issued by ICAO and published by Jeppesen.

http://www.jeppesen.com/download/briefbull/fra99-a.pdf

Shame they are perfectly legal from Turkey then as Turkish companies issue the insurance contracts that are needed for them to do so.....

[Paphitis]

VP and Murataga, We have nothing to appologise for.......They are the ones tyhat are SUPPOSED to be living in this fantastic stste where nothing is corrupt and there are bombs and drugs every where...Take a look at the news scrolling below......



welcome back Murat!!!!!

And 90% of the drugs smuggled into RoC come from the "trnc" you faggot.

Biggest drug haul in GC history was last week - Drugs came in from Greece.

Get your FACTS right! It seems to be a recurring theme with you...

Greece was a transit point but the drugs originated from Albania.

Greece just waved them through........Passing more of her shit into the "RoC".....As if Grivas wasn't enough!!

You are so full of it. Greece is not the "trnc"

[Nurgary]

Paphitis would you mind telling me why Ercan has an ICAO code when you claim that ICAO doesn't recognize our airport?

Also is this the information you are looking for?

www.airfieldmaps.co.uk/Europe.pdf

For some strange reason, the pdf will not open.

Is there some way you can post those charts?

Paphitis, I'm glad you seem to have calmed down (slightly) over Ercan.

Anyway, the link above takes a while to open........and when it does there's loads of (aviation) data that means nothing to most, but plenty to you I guess.

Ercan is listed just above Pahos and Larnaca to make any comparisons easier.

Here's a snippet.....

Airport - Ercan
Runway (1)- 11/29
Approach (1) - Visual
LDA (m) (1)- 2755 2755
Runway (2)- 16/34 30m
Approach (2) - Visual
LDA (m) (2)- 1800 1800
Landing Performance Data and Max LDG WTS
767 - 207
777 - 396
747 - 400

Airport - Larnaca
Runway (1)- 04/22
Approach (1) - VOR-D
LDA (m) (1)- 2900 2810
Landing Performance Data and Max LDG WTS
767 - 167
777 - 305
747 - 330

Airport - Pahos
Runway (1)- 11/29
Approach (1) - VOR-D
LDA (m) (1)- 2700 2700
Landing Performance Data and Max LDG WTS
767 - 207
777 - 396
747 - 400

And just as I suspected, ERCAN has no Instrument Landing System (ILS), VHF Omni Directional (VOR), Distance Measuring Equipment (DME) or Non Directional Beacons (NDB). These means that all aircraft must carry enough fuel to divert to an Alternate Safe and Suitable Aerodrome if required. They can not do non visual approaches, only visual. So in inclement weather, aircraft are required to divert especially as there is also high terrain nearby.

I am just pointing out that the facilities at ERCAN are visual only and are therefore substandard.

Pafos and Larnaca on the other hand have ILS, VOR-DME, and NDB approaches, as every seroius airport should.

So forget about providing the approach plates, as they do not exist.

Sounds like you are finding it hard to stomach Paphitis, like the TRNC Ercan may not be recognized by other countries but this does not mean it does not exsist and thousands upon thousands of people land their safely every year, get used to it, its your country which insists on it not being recognized as punishment for wanting what you have our own country. Another fact that will make you feel even more sick is that we even have direct flights from the UK when there are no passengers getting off in Turkey, you have to realize that we are willing to have 10 times more islaolation as the TRNC than concede to being forced into a minority status in a GC state run by GCs.

And all those flights are breaking international (ICAO) aviation laws. They are not permitted to enter NICOSIA FIR, without permission from NICOSIA Air Traffic Control.

Yet they do every day, the north does not give a shit about your Nicosia FIR, flights will continue to stick the middle finger up at you everytime they land, how does that feel? if you have the leglalites on your side use them to stop flights lets see it, all talk no action.

You are not only sticking the middle fingure up to us, but you are also sticking it up to ICAN, UN, EU, UK, US and just about every other nation that exists in the world today.

Your flights are in the same category as the Columbian Drug Lords aircraft which traffic drugs throughout Latin and North America. Both your flights and those Columbian Drug flights are just as illegal as each other.

There is nothing illegal about the flights...If you have any evidence of this please post them...

Here is the proof you yearn for. I posted it earlier and I post it again for the benefit of someone such as yourself who must be a person with very special needs.
http://www.jeppesen.com/download/briefbull/fra99-a.pdf

looking at this it says on second page:

B. WESTBOUND, continuing northwards into Ankara FIR
1. In Damascus FIR, before passing NIKAS:
Primary station is Damascus ACC. No need for advance call to Nicosia FIR unless request
to that effect received from Damascus ACC.
2. At NIKAS:
a. Transfer control to Nicosia ACC.
Control authority remains with Nicosia ACC until point VESAR.
b. Call Ercan on 126.70, [/color][/color]pass essential flight details for relay to Ankara ACC.
Note: Any Flight Level changes made thereafter under instructions from Nicosia ACC
must be communicated at once to Ercan Control for relay to Ankara ACC.

Now that looks official instruction to me.

[Nurgary]

VP and Murataga, We have nothing to appologise for.......They are the ones tyhat are SUPPOSED to be living in this fantastic stste where nothing is corrupt and there are bombs and drugs every where...Take a look at the news scrolling below......



welcome back Murat!!!!!

And 90% of the drugs smuggled into RoC come from the "trnc" you faggot.

Biggest drug haul in GC history was last week - Drugs came in from Greece.

Get your FACTS right! It seems to be a recurring theme with you...

Greece was a transit point but the drugs originated from Albania.

They came from Greece - not the TRNC. Spin it anyway you want put prior to being in the South they where in Greece.

No that is a FACT

[zan]

VP and Murataga, We have nothing to appologise for.......They are the ones tyhat are SUPPOSED to be living in this fantastic stste where nothing is corrupt and there are bombs and drugs every where...Take a look at the news scrolling below......



welcome back Murat!!!!!

And 90% of the drugs smuggled into RoC come from the "trnc" you faggot.

Biggest drug haul in GC history was last week - Drugs came in from Greece.

Get your FACTS right! It seems to be a recurring theme with you...

Greece was a transit point but the drugs originated from Albania.

Greece just waved them through........Passing more of her shit into the "RoC".....As if Grivas wasn't enough!!

You are so full of it. Greece is not the "trnc"

Well done!! At least you understand one thing

[Paphitis]

Paphitis would you mind telling me why Ercan has an ICAO code when you claim that ICAO doesn't recognize our airport?

Also is this the information you are looking for?

www.airfieldmaps.co.uk/Europe.pdf

For some strange reason, the pdf will not open.

Is there some way you can post those charts?

Paphitis, I'm glad you seem to have calmed down (slightly) over Ercan.

Anyway, the link above takes a while to open........and when it does there's loads of (aviation) data that means nothing to most, but plenty to you I guess.

Ercan is listed just above Pahos and Larnaca to make any comparisons easier.

Here's a snippet.....

Airport - Ercan
Runway (1)- 11/29
Approach (1) - Visual
LDA (m) (1)- 2755 2755
Runway (2)- 16/34 30m
Approach (2) - Visual
LDA (m) (2)- 1800 1800
Landing Performance Data and Max LDG WTS
767 - 207
777 - 396
747 - 400

Airport - Larnaca
Runway (1)- 04/22
Approach (1) - VOR-D
LDA (m) (1)- 2900 2810
Landing Performance Data and Max LDG WTS
767 - 167
777 - 305
747 - 330

Airport - Pahos
Runway (1)- 11/29
Approach (1) - VOR-D
LDA (m) (1)- 2700 2700
Landing Performance Data and Max LDG WTS
767 - 207
777 - 396
747 - 400

And just as I suspected, ERCAN has no Instrument Landing System (ILS), VHF Omni Directional (VOR), Distance Measuring Equipment (DME) or Non Directional Beacons (NDB). These means that all aircraft must carry enough fuel to divert to an Alternate Safe and Suitable Aerodrome if required. They can not do non visual approaches, only visual. So in inclement weather, aircraft are required to divert especially as there is also high terrain nearby.

I am just pointing out that the facilities at ERCAN are visual only and are therefore substandard.

Pafos and Larnaca on the other hand have ILS, VOR-DME, and NDB approaches, as every seroius airport should.

So forget about providing the approach plates, as they do not exist.

Sounds like you are finding it hard to stomach Paphitis, like the TRNC Ercan may not be recognized by other countries but this does not mean it does not exsist and thousands upon thousands of people land their safely every year, get used to it, its your country which insists on it not being recognized as punishment for wanting what you have our own country. Another fact that will make you feel even more sick is that we even have direct flights from the UK when there are no passengers getting off in Turkey, you have to realize that we are willing to have 10 times more islaolation as the TRNC than concede to being forced into a minority status in a GC state run by GCs.

And all those flights are breaking international (ICAO) aviation laws. They are not permitted to enter NICOSIA FIR, without permission from NICOSIA Air Traffic Control.

Yet they do every day, the north does not give a shit about your Nicosia FIR, flights will continue to stick the middle finger up at you everytime they land, how does that feel? if you have the leglalites on your side use them to stop flights lets see it, all talk no action.

You are not only sticking the middle fingure up to us, but you are also sticking it up to ICAN, UN, EU, UK, US and just about every other nation that exists in the world today.

Your flights are in the same category as the Columbian Drug Lords aircraft which traffic drugs throughout Latin and North America. Both your flights and those Columbian Drug flights are just as illegal as each other.

There is nothing illegal about the flights...If you have any evidence of this please post them...

Here is the proof you yearn for. I posted it earlier and I post it again for the benefit of someone such as yourself who must be a person with very special needs.
http://www.jeppesen.com/download/briefbull/fra99-a.pdf

looking at this it says on second page:

B. WESTBOUND, continuing northwards into Ankara FIR
1. In Damascus FIR, before passing NIKAS:
Primary station is Damascus ACC. No need for advance call to Nicosia FIR unless request
to that effect received from Damascus ACC.
2. At NIKAS:
a. Transfer control to Nicosia ACC.Control authority remains with Nicosia ACC until point VESAR.
b. Call Ercan on 126.70, [/color][/color]pass essential flight details for relay to Ankara ACC.
Note: Any Flight Level changes made thereafter under instructions from Nicosia ACCmust be communicated at once to Ercan Control for relay to Ankara ACC.

Now that looks official instruction to me.

And point VESAR is north of Kyrenia - where Nicosia FIR finishes and Ankara FIR commences.

[Paphitis]

Paphitis would you mind telling me why Ercan has an ICAO code when you claim that ICAO doesn't recognize our airport?

Also is this the information you are looking for?

www.airfieldmaps.co.uk/Europe.pdf

For some strange reason, the pdf will not open.

Is there some way you can post those charts?

Paphitis, I'm glad you seem to have calmed down (slightly) over Ercan.

Anyway, the link above takes a while to open........and when it does there's loads of (aviation) data that means nothing to most, but plenty to you I guess.

Ercan is listed just above Pahos and Larnaca to make any comparisons easier.

Here's a snippet.....

Airport - Ercan
Runway (1)- 11/29
Approach (1) - Visual
LDA (m) (1)- 2755 2755
Runway (2)- 16/34 30m
Approach (2) - Visual
LDA (m) (2)- 1800 1800
Landing Performance Data and Max LDG WTS
767 - 207
777 - 396
747 - 400

Airport - Larnaca
Runway (1)- 04/22
Approach (1) - VOR-D
LDA (m) (1)- 2900 2810
Landing Performance Data and Max LDG WTS
767 - 167
777 - 305
747 - 330

Airport - Pahos
Runway (1)- 11/29
Approach (1) - VOR-D
LDA (m) (1)- 2700 2700
Landing Performance Data and Max LDG WTS
767 - 207
777 - 396
747 - 400

And just as I suspected, ERCAN has no Instrument Landing System (ILS), VHF Omni Directional (VOR), Distance Measuring Equipment (DME) or Non Directional Beacons (NDB). These means that all aircraft must carry enough fuel to divert to an Alternate Safe and Suitable Aerodrome if required. They can not do non visual approaches, only visual. So in inclement weather, aircraft are required to divert especially as there is also high terrain nearby.

I am just pointing out that the facilities at ERCAN are visual only and are therefore substandard.

Pafos and Larnaca on the other hand have ILS, VOR-DME, and NDB approaches, as every seroius airport should.

So forget about providing the approach plates, as they do not exist.

Sounds like you are finding it hard to stomach Paphitis, like the TRNC Ercan may not be recognized by other countries but this does not mean it does not exsist and thousands upon thousands of people land their safely every year, get used to it, its your country which insists on it not being recognized as punishment for wanting what you have our own country. Another fact that will make you feel even more sick is that we even have direct flights from the UK when there are no passengers getting off in Turkey, you have to realize that we are willing to have 10 times more islaolation as the TRNC than concede to being forced into a minority status in a GC state run by GCs.

And all those flights are breaking international (ICAO) aviation laws. They are not permitted to enter NICOSIA FIR, without permission from NICOSIA Air Traffic Control.

Yet they do every day, the north does not give a shit about your Nicosia FIR, flights will continue to stick the middle finger up at you everytime they land, how does that feel? if you have the leglalites on your side use them to stop flights lets see it, all talk no action.

You are not only sticking the middle fingure up to us, but you are also sticking it up to ICAN, UN, EU, UK, US and just about every other nation that exists in the world today.

Your flights are in the same category as the Columbian Drug Lords aircraft which traffic drugs throughout Latin and North America. Both your flights and those Columbian Drug flights are just as illegal as each other.

There is nothing illegal about the flights...If you have any evidence of this please post them...

Here is the proof you yearn for. I posted it earlier and I post it again for the benefit of someone such as yourself who must be a person with very special needs.
http://www.jeppesen.com/download/briefbull/fra99-a.pdf

looking at this it says on second page:

B. WESTBOUND, continuing northwards into Ankara FIR
1. In Damascus FIR, before passing NIKAS:
Primary station is Damascus ACC. No need for advance call to Nicosia FIR unless request
to that effect received from Damascus ACC.
2. At NIKAS:
a. Transfer control to Nicosia ACC.Control authority remains with Nicosia ACC until point VESAR.
b. Call Ercan on 126.70, [/color][/color]pass essential flight details for relay to Ankara ACC.
Note: Any Flight Level changes made thereafter under instructions from Nicosia ACCmust be communicated at once to Ercan Control for relay to Ankara ACC.

Now that looks official instruction to me.

And point VESAR is north of Kyrenia - where Nicosia FIR finishes and Ankara FIR commences.

And it only advises that NICOSIA ACC instructions should be communicated to RECAN - so aircraft do not have a mid air collision with one of those "MIDNIGHT EXPRESS" buses.