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SEVGUL ULUDAG A TRUE CYPRIOT !

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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:28 am

halil wrote:
BC Numismatics wrote:Halil,have you ever met her?

Aidan.


Yes,
Send me your address by PM and i will send you book as well to read it.



Halil, since you have met Sevgul, could you confirm if her father is Alper Uludag?Alper was my class mate and fellow musician at the Orta Okul and Lise.) There was walso aLibrarian, also related I think. (when the library was above the Cemaat Meclisi - in the old city.
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Postby Oracle » Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:15 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
halil wrote:
BC Numismatics wrote:Halil,have you ever met her?

Aidan.


Yes,
Send me your address by PM and i will send you book as well to read it.



Halil, since you have met Sevgul, could you confirm if her father is Alper Uludag?Alper was my class mate and fellow musician at the Orta Okul and Lise.) There was walso aLibrarian, also related I think. (when the library was above the Cemaat Meclisi - in the old city.


Deniz .... Sevgul and I were born within days of each other ... she is 49 years old ... you said you were (about) 60 last birthday :? ... so her father would have been 11 years old when he became a proud daddy..... impressive :lol:

..... you do both talk a lot of tripe ..... :lol:
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:20 pm

Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
halil wrote:
BC Numismatics wrote:Halil,have you ever met her?

Aidan.


Yes,
Send me your address by PM and i will send you book as well to read it.



Halil, since you have met Sevgul, could you confirm if her father is Alper Uludag?Alper was my class mate and fellow musician at the Orta Okul and Lise.) There was walso aLibrarian, also related I think. (when the library was above the Cemaat Meclisi - in the old city.


Deniz .... Sevgul and I were born within days of each other ... she is 49 years old ... you said you were (about) 60 last birthday :? ... so her father would have been 11 years old when he became a proud daddy..... impressive :lol:

..... you do both talk a lot of tripe ..... :lol:



FUCK OFF ORACLE
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Postby Oracle » Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:25 pm

Grumpy old man ..... :lol:
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:29 pm

Oracle wrote:Grumpy old man ..... :lol:


A proud grumpy old man, as my mug says. Now

FUCK OFF

AMA ENENGADALAVIS?

My intercourse with you is ended.
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Postby Oracle » Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:37 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:Grumpy old man ..... :lol:


A proud grumpy old man, as my mug says. Now

FUCK OFF

AMA ENENGADALAVIS?

My intercourse with you is ended.


.... well that is a bit premature :roll: ....

:lol:
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Re: SEVGUL ULUDAG A TRUE CYPRIOT !

Postby miltiades » Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:54 pm

zan wrote:
miltiades wrote:Following my visit to Cyprus , my dear friend Halil gave me a book written by a Cypriot lady called Sevgul Uludag . I have to admit I'm not acquainted with this T/C lady and until I read her book Oysters with The Missing Pearls was unaware of her existence,. I was intrigued and fascinated by her unbiased and utterly Cypriot sentiments and felt very proud that my beliefs in the Cypriot race were not a figment of my imagination and that a journalist , a T/C lady shared all of my sentiments.
For all I know to most Greek and Turkish Cypriots this author journalist is well known , I wonder how many have read her book . I beleive that should Zan or Oracle were to read this book , would instantly embark on a major reassessment of their views on the Cyprus problem . I know that neither Zan, nor Oracle have laid eyes on this fascinating collection of real stories by real Cypriots as presented in this book.
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I will first of all congratulate you on your grand child......



I have not read this book but will pick up a copy of it as soon as I can. I have no doubt that it will not change a single thought in my head because I have only one issue and I am sure that this book does not cover it. If it does then please post it......Does it say any where in there that we, as TCs should give up our fight to get back our rights under the Zurich agreement? Does it say that we should fall for the tricks of Mitiades, who asks us to do so? Does it say that the "RoC" is legal and should be recognised by us?

I have always acknowledged the suffering of decent and innocent people on the island and wish no one any harm or further pain unlike you who proposes that we give in to the actions imposed on us in 1963 at gun point and accept the fait accompli of being thrown out of government.

What the book is asking us to do is to forget and get back to civility and legality but you, as usual and in your assassins way, choose to use it to try and convince us to take your poisoned sweets and let go of our rights. You think you are so saintly that we should just take your word for it when you have done nothing to redress these wrongs against us. In stead you promote the idea that we have no rights under the Zurich agreement and that we should allow our culture and our very existence to be put into the hands of the GCs. Who ever has heard of the Turks on Create, except in some flash instances and or bad light. We will not allow that on our homeland Miltiades so don't ask. You still have not given any idea of a fair solution but you push the "RoC" party line. Keep it to your self old man.....We have no need of it....You are no better than those bearded Muslims that you so love to hate, in that you take a wonderful book and corrupt it with your ideals. When you learn to not only forgive but to also repair and stop using this book to further your "RoC" intentions of dominance then I will be by your side as a Cypriot and not the false one you declare.

Zan thank you for your wishes .
Do your best to get a copy of the book , read it before deciding whether some of your preconceived ideas will be affected or not. Mine were not simply because everything that I stand for is documented in the book.
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Postby Nikitas » Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:21 pm

Zan cannot stand the idea that there may be Turkish Cypriots who sincerely oppose the results of the invasion. But that is not the point about Sevgul Uludag's book, her journalism or her documentation of murders in Cyprus. She is not partisan and considers a crime a crime regardless of which side committed it and with what motive.

As for toeing party lines, well, tha last person to be guilty of that is Miltiades. There are plenty of others in here, both TC and GC who do that with almost every post.
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Postby miltiades » Fri Mar 28, 2008 2:01 pm

Nikitas wrote:As for toeing party lines, well, tha last person to be guilty of that is Miltiades. There are plenty of others in here, both TC and GC who do that with almost every post.

Not exactly sure what you mean by party lines Nikitas ?
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Postby Nikitas » Fri Mar 28, 2008 2:24 pm

It is a phrase Zan used. Presumably he means the nationalist position projected by some posters here, something done by both TCs and GCs.
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