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[bill cobbett]

The analogy of a surgeon's knife as a cure in politics was a favorite of the Greek dictator George Papadopoulos, too.

Once again I will repeat my question: in 1974 Turkey had a golden opportunity to reverse the coup, arrest the murderers on both sides and try them, remove the old guard from politics, reinstate the Republic in full. Instead it acted like a brigand and sliced off a third of the territory for itself. More like a butcher than a surgeon.

Well Nikitas one can ask the same question different way around. Did ever want to go back to the original condstitution that should have been reinstated?

By the way bill cob. , I find your end quotes quite funny. Keep em up

Thanks (?) Um. Can I dedicate the one below for you please.

On the thread itself. I think GB should have acted in concert with RoT to restore a constitutional order. Instead it did nothing or perhaps it let the Turkish Army do its dirty work.

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[umit07]

Yes GB did jack shit to. If GB had sincere interests in the island they would have intervened with Turkey at the same time. The thing is I really don't understand why the GC's didn't just for example make a proposal like

eg:

1. Full restoration of the pre 63 constitution
2. Compensation and rebuilding projects for all who were refugee's ( mostly TC's at the time )
3. Contigent of peace keeping forces to stay for stabilization

I do believe that at the time wanting to hijack the entire north of the island was bloody stupid, this reason alone was enough to stop a settlment from happening.

[Oracle]

Yes GB did jack shit to. If GB had sincere interests in the island they would have intervened with Turkey at the same time. The thing is I really don't understand why the GC's didn't just for example make a proposal like

eg:

1. Full restoration of the pre 63 constitution
2. Compensation and rebuilding projects for all who were refugee's ( mostly TC's at the time )
3. Contigent of peace keeping forces to stay for stabilization

I do believe that at the time wanting to hijack the entire north of the island was bloody stupid, this reason alone was enough to stop a settlment from happening.

Because Turkey had plans for control of half the island since the mid-50's and nothing anyone said was going to stop them.

The pre-1963 constitution was unworkable for a modern country so why re-instate it?

There was never any problem about UN peacekeeping forces staying ....

[umit07]

Well Oracle they evolved into an unworkable state because GC's wanted to change the entire base work of the country. While doing this it was not because it was unworkable it was because they wanted to take full control. When it didn't work peacfully they resorted to violence.

THe UN have been on the ground in Cyprus since 64 and they have yet to prove themselves worthy of such duty. Un soldiers shot and killed an uncle of mine.

[Oracle]

Well Oracle they evolved into an unworkable state because GC's wanted to change the entire base work of the country. While doing this it was not because it was unworkable it was because they wanted to take full control. When it didn't work peacfully they resorted to violence.

THe UN have been on the ground in Cyprus since 64 and they have yet to prove themselves worthy of such duty. Un soldiers shot and killed an uncle of mine.

Sorry umit ... it has since been independently analysed and deemed unworkable ....

Does not matter what the TCs say ... they had a vested interest in maintaining the constitution as it was despite its shortcomings and ineffectiveness ...

[xxNilxx]

1) Mrs S. Grivas.. Grivas, EOKA B, Hunda would have all killed us if they hadn't come!!

2) Why don't you just talk to a politician about it, and not to us?? What the hell can we do?

[xxNilxx]

You know the things you did to us... and how you made us suffer.. so stop trying to deny it.

Just like you murdered many many many TCs, Turkish did same to you. If they hadn't come.. TC would not extist.. as you said before Stella.. you would have all 'CUT THE TC BLOODLINE SHORT'

and we still want peace with you, but people like YOU throw it back in our face. you HAVE to move on from the past..

[umit07]

Well Phoenix the "Zurich agreements " were a mutualy binding contract for both sides.

Eg:

YOu can't go to a bank get a mortage and then say "it has since been independently analysed and deemed unworkable " , the bank will finally forclose .

If it was unworkable both sides would have to agree on changing it.

[bill cobbett]

Well Oracle they evolved into an unworkable state because GC's wanted to change the entire base work of the country. While doing this it was not because it was unworkable it was because they wanted to take full control. When it didn't work peacfully they resorted to violence.

THe UN have been on the ground in Cyprus since 64 and they have yet to prove themselves worthy of such duty. Un soldiers shot and killed an uncle of mine.

Sorry to hear that mate. Commiserations.

[Oracle]

Well Phoenix the "Zurich agreements " were a mutualy binding contract for both sides.

Eg:

YOu can't go to a bank get a mortage and then say "it has since been independently analysed and deemed unworkable " , the bank will finally forclose .

If it was unworkable both sides would have to agree on changing it.

That's rubbish umit ... there are laws for making sure contracts are fair and workable ....

You can appeal against unfairly drawn contracts....