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[Nurgary]

Hey nurgary, no one says it has to be fair mate?

I think it's fair - somebody from outside should do an audit of the land ownership. Anybody who has a issue with any land - ie.forced to sell by gun to head should be able to ask them to look into claims. Title office have details of sales price so if far below value at the time it would show there was an issue.

Look at Evkaf land holdings and give back what was taken from them - which was illegal. Look at Mira lands and any holding by GC's given back to TC's.

This would then give a clear % of land holdings by both sides. If nobody has anything to hide it should not be an issue.

[humanist]

sorry Nur, I found it hard to follow your argument. Cheers

[Nurgary]

The GC's believe that the 18% population equals the land holding also. This is total rubbish.

What needs to worked out is the true holding.

Evkaf had land taken from the - Varosha. Under the law this was illegal (UK fault).

Mira (Ottoman State Land) - given away so any GC holding is TC.

Any land that TC says he had to sell via Gun pointing to head is investigated. A low sales price as listed in Title Office will show something funny was going on.

[Get Real!]

The GC's believe that the 18% population equals the land holding also. This is total rubbish.

How right you are...

Land Ownership in Cyprus by Ethnic Group:

60.9% - Greek/Armenian/Maronite Cypriots
12.3% - Turkish Cypriots
0.5% - Others
26.3% - State/Church Land

Source: Department of Lands and Surveys
(Refer to Annex 14 in Volume II of the "Memorandum by the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Cyprus" submitted to the Foreign Affairs Committee of the House of Commons, 27 February 1987)

[Nurgary]

The GC's believe that the 18% population equals the land holding also. This is total rubbish.

How right you are...

Land Ownership in Cyprus by Ethnic Group:

60.9% - Greek/Armenian/Maronite Cypriots
12.3% - Turkish Cypriots
0.5% - Others
26.3% - State/Church Land

Source: Department of Lands and Surveys
(Refer to Annex 14 in Volume II of the "Memorandum by the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Cyprus" submitted to the Foreign Affairs Committee of the House of Commons, 27 February 1987)

I see - GC run Dept of Lands and Survey dated 27 Feb 1987 said 12.3%

So how is it been reduced from 16.7% the post-1974 figure based on 1964 figures by the Greek Cypriot Department of Lands and Surveys and the Planning Bureau.

But then again TC figures indicate that it is 26.7%.

So only fair way is to get outsiders to look into the issue and come up with a true figure.

[Paphitis]

It is estimated that there is 800,000 Turkish Cypriots worldwide. The results of a census that took place in Northern Cyprus at the end of April 2006 indicated that the Turkish Cypriot population was 100,000 out of a total population of 264,172[1]. An island-wide census in 1960 indicated the number of Turkish Cypriots as 102,000 and Greek Cypriots as 450,000[2].
According to the Northern Cypriot administration, there are 500,000 Turkish Cypriots in Turkey, 250,000 Turkish Cypriots in United Kingdom[1], 50,000 Turkish Cypriots in Australia, 20,000 Turkish Cypriots in North America[3].
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_Cypriots

Jesus, you guys must breed like rats! Is contraception against your religion or something. You guys need to watch a bit more tv.

[Get Real!]

The GC's believe that the 18% population equals the land holding also. This is total rubbish.

How right you are...

Land Ownership in Cyprus by Ethnic Group:

60.9% - Greek/Armenian/Maronite Cypriots
12.3% - Turkish Cypriots
0.5% - Others
26.3% - State/Church Land

Source: Department of Lands and Surveys
(Refer to Annex 14 in Volume II of the "Memorandum by the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Cyprus" submitted to the Foreign Affairs Committee of the House of Commons, 27 February 1987)

I see - GC run Dept of Lands and Survey dated 27 Feb 1987 said 12.3%

So how is it been reduced from 16.7% the post-1974 figure based on 1964 figures by the Greek Cypriot Department of Lands and Surveys and the Planning Bureau.

But then again TC figures indicate that it is 26.7%.

So only fair way is to get outsiders to look into the issue and come up with a true figure.

The ONLY authority when it comes to land issues in Cyprus is the Department of Lands and Surveys of the Republic of Cyprus make no mistake. You can read about its history here...

http://www.moi.gov.cy/moi/dls/dls.nsf/d ... enDocument

Unlike in the recently manufactured “TRNC”, the Department of Lands and Surveys has ORIGINAL records of land ownership dating back to the mid 19th century which anyone can VIEW upon request and can be easily contacted here…

http://www.moi.gov.cy/moi/dls/dls.nsf/d ... n?OpenForm

Regards, GR.

[Nikitas]

"Most people don't like to have to leave their own country " in reference to TCs leaving the north to work in the south on a daily basis. So much for the idea of BBF etc! Notice the phrasing, their own country, so by definition not ours.

As for the land ownership the recipe seems to be that land was either owned by the EVKAF or it was Mira land, ie none was ever GC land. In other words for thousands of years the GCs existed on the land as guests. And who owned the land before the Mira and the EVKAF you great genius? ANd what about all those posts that extoll the virtues of the Ottomans who reportedly abolished Venetian feudal rules and allowed GCS to own their land?

There is definitely a lot of bullshit in here. It gives a basis to those who said during the Annan plan debate that the way the Turks are going they will soon be asking GCs to pay for the costs of the invasion. Seems to be going that way in this thread.

[wallace]

The fuckers are giving away land that was in my inlaws families for centuries to the settlers!!! You think they give a shit? Certain moment they will....they will pay the price one day. What's theirs is theirs and what's ours is also theirs.

[xxNilxx]

TCs make up approximately 80,000 <<< quote...

NOT true! TCs are more than the Turks.