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Postby Oracle » Wed Mar 26, 2008 10:57 pm

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Sotos wrote:The point is that you occupy 1/3rd of our country illegally and you violate the 1960 agreements. If you want to implement the 1960 agreements then you have to agree to implement them fully! Do you? And ECHR has nothing to do with this. This is not about human rights. It is about the 1960 agreements that you refuse! If it was about human rights then we should also have public schools teaching in Russian, English, Polish, Romanian, Arabic etc because there are more of those people in the free areas of Cyprus than the TCs!


Except this country doesn't belong to the Russians, it belongs to youandus which you seem to forget all the time, and proceed to talk even more crap built up on it :roll:

The official languages are Turkish, Greek and English.


Officialdom went out of the window in 1974 ... suspension of provisions allowed under occupation ... read the Constitution ... :roll:
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Postby shahmaran » Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:00 pm

Who's constitution :roll:
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Postby iceman » Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:03 pm

Oracle wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
Sotos wrote:The point is that you occupy 1/3rd of our country illegally and you violate the 1960 agreements. If you want to implement the 1960 agreements then you have to agree to implement them fully! Do you? And ECHR has nothing to do with this. This is not about human rights. It is about the 1960 agreements that you refuse! If it was about human rights then we should also have public schools teaching in Russian, English, Polish, Romanian, Arabic etc because there are more of those people in the free areas of Cyprus than the TCs!


Except this country doesn't belong to the Russians, it belongs to youandus which you seem to forget all the time, and proceed to talk even more crap built up on it :roll:

The official languages are Turkish, Greek and English.


Officialdom went out of the window in 1974 ... suspension of provisions allowed under occupation ... read the Constitution ... :roll:


You are talking out of your arse again...
If you knew anything about your constitution you wouldn't be farting here.
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Postby unitedwestand » Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:20 pm

iceman wrote:
Oracle wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
Sotos wrote:The point is that you occupy 1/3rd of our country illegally and you violate the 1960 agreements. If you want to implement the 1960 agreements then you have to agree to implement them fully! Do you? And ECHR has nothing to do with this. This is not about human rights. It is about the 1960 agreements that you refuse! If it was about human rights then we should also have public schools teaching in Russian, English, Polish, Romanian, Arabic etc because there are more of those people in the free areas of Cyprus than the TCs!


Except this country doesn't belong to the Russians, it belongs to youandus which you seem to forget all the time, and proceed to talk even more crap built up on it :roll:

The official languages are Turkish, Greek and English.


Officialdom went out of the window in 1974 ... suspension of provisions allowed under occupation ... read the Constitution ... :roll:


You are talking out of your arse again...
If you knew anything about your constitution you wouldn't be farting here.


Well said Iceman. This is a very sick person, it scares me to know such people exist in my beautiful country. God made a mistake with Oracle.
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Postby Oracle » Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:48 pm

iceman wrote:
Oracle wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
Sotos wrote:The point is that you occupy 1/3rd of our country illegally and you violate the 1960 agreements. If you want to implement the 1960 agreements then you have to agree to implement them fully! Do you? And ECHR has nothing to do with this. This is not about human rights. It is about the 1960 agreements that you refuse! If it was about human rights then we should also have public schools teaching in Russian, English, Polish, Romanian, Arabic etc because there are more of those people in the free areas of Cyprus than the TCs!


Except this country doesn't belong to the Russians, it belongs to youandus which you seem to forget all the time, and proceed to talk even more crap built up on it :roll:

The official languages are Turkish, Greek and English.


Officialdom went out of the window in 1974 ... suspension of provisions allowed under occupation ... read the Constitution ... :roll:


You are talking out of your arse again...
If you knew anything about your constitution you wouldn't be farting here.


Absolute Zero man is back ... :roll: ...

Article 183 []
1. In case of war or other public danger threatening the life of the Republic or any part thereof, the Council of Ministers shall have power, by a decision taken in this respect, to issue a Proclamation of Emergency ...
2. Any such Proclamation shall specify the Articles of the Constitution which shall be suspended for the duration of such Emergency:
Provided that only the following Articles of the Constitution may be suspended by any such Proclamation that is to say: -


Also of relevance to this article ... the Turkish Community should be making financial provision ..... if it had not invaded .... in which case the RoC makes the decisions as it pertains fit ....


Article 108 []
1. The Greek and the Turkish Communities shall have the right to receive subsidies from the Greek or the Turkish Government respectively for institutions of education, culture, athletics and charity belonging to the Greek or the Turkish Community respectively.
2. Also where either the Greek or the Turkish Community considers that it has not the necessary number of schoolmasters, professors or clergymen for the functioning of its institutions, such Community shall have the right to obtain and employ such personnel to the extent strictly necessary to meet its needs as the Greek or the Turkish Government respectively may provide.
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Postby BC Numismatics » Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:56 pm

iceman wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
Sotos wrote:The point is that you occupy 1/3rd of our country illegally and you violate the 1960 agreements. If you want to implement the 1960 agreements then you have to agree to implement them fully! Do you? And ECHR has nothing to do with this. This is not about human rights. It is about the 1960 agreements that you refuse! If it was about human rights then we should also have public schools teaching in Russian, English, Polish, Romanian, Arabic etc because there are more of those people in the free areas of Cyprus than the TCs!


Except this country doesn't belong to the Russians, it belongs to youandus which you seem to forget all the time, and proceed to talk even more crap built up on it :roll:

The official languages are Turkish, Greek and English.


English is NOT an official language of ROC..


Iceman,English IS an official language in Cyprus.Why is Cypriot parliamentary legislation published in English,as are judgements of the Supreme Court of Cyprus? Most Turkish-speaking Cypriots probably don't speak Cypriot Greek,so they use English when speaking to a Greek-speaking Cypriot.

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Postby iceman » Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:12 am

Oracle wrote:
iceman wrote:
Oracle wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
Sotos wrote:The point is that you occupy 1/3rd of our country illegally and you violate the 1960 agreements. If you want to implement the 1960 agreements then you have to agree to implement them fully! Do you? And ECHR has nothing to do with this. This is not about human rights. It is about the 1960 agreements that you refuse! If it was about human rights then we should also have public schools teaching in Russian, English, Polish, Romanian, Arabic etc because there are more of those people in the free areas of Cyprus than the TCs!


Except this country doesn't belong to the Russians, it belongs to youandus which you seem to forget all the time, and proceed to talk even more crap built up on it :roll:

The official languages are Turkish, Greek and English.


Officialdom went out of the window in 1974 ... suspension of provisions allowed under occupation ... read the Constitution ... :roll:


You are talking out of your arse again...
If you knew anything about your constitution you wouldn't be farting here.


Absolute Zero man is back ... :roll: ...

Article 183 []
1. In case of war or other public danger threatening the life of the Republic or any part thereof, the Council of Ministers shall have power, by a decision taken in this respect, to issue a Proclamation of Emergency ...
2. Any such Proclamation shall specify the Articles of the Constitution which shall be suspended for the duration of such Emergency:
Provided that only the following Articles of the Constitution may be suspended by any such Proclamation that is to say: -


Also of relevance to this article ... the Turkish Community should be making financial provision ..... if it had not invaded .... in which case the RoC makes the decisions as it pertains fit ....


Article 108 []
1. The Greek and the Turkish Communities shall have the right to receive subsidies from the Greek or the Turkish Government respectively for institutions of education, culture, athletics and charity belonging to the Greek or the Turkish Community respectively.
2. Also where either the Greek or the Turkish Community considers that it has not the necessary number of schoolmasters, professors or clergymen for the functioning of its institutions, such Community shall have the right to obtain and employ such personnel to the extent strictly necessary to meet its needs as the Greek or the Turkish Government respectively may provide.



why do you bother cluttering the board with the above useless cut & paste?
Shah made a statement about official languages of ROC and you said "Officialdom went out of the window in 1974"
My response was to this statement of yours....
Show me when Turkish language was proclaimed suspended from being one of the two official languages of ROC.
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Postby iceman » Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:18 am

BC Numismatics wrote:
iceman wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
Sotos wrote:The point is that you occupy 1/3rd of our country illegally and you violate the 1960 agreements. If you want to implement the 1960 agreements then you have to agree to implement them fully! Do you? And ECHR has nothing to do with this. This is not about human rights. It is about the 1960 agreements that you refuse! If it was about human rights then we should also have public schools teaching in Russian, English, Polish, Romanian, Arabic etc because there are more of those people in the free areas of Cyprus than the TCs!


Except this country doesn't belong to the Russians, it belongs to youandus which you seem to forget all the time, and proceed to talk even more crap built up on it :roll:

The official languages are Turkish, Greek and English.


English is NOT an official language of ROC..


Iceman,English IS an official language in Cyprus.Why is Cypriot parliamentary legislation published in English,as are judgements of the Supreme Court of Cyprus? Most Turkish-speaking Cypriots probably don't speak Cypriot Greek,so they use English when speaking to a Greek-speaking Cypriot.

Aidan.


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Are you another expert on the constitution??


APPENDIX D
DRAFT CONSTITUTION OF THE REPUBLIC OF CYPRUS
PART I. ­ GENERAL PROVISIONS

ARTICLE 3


1. The official languages of the Republic are Greek and Turkish.

2. Legislative, executive and administrative acts and documents shall be drawn up in both official languages and shall, where under the express provisions of this Constitution promulgation is required, be promulgated by publication in the official Gazette of the Republic in both official languages.

3. Administrative or other official documents addressed to a Greek or a Turk shall be drawn up in the Greek or the Turkish language respectively.

4. Judicial proceedings shall be conducted or made and judgments shall be drawn up in the Greek language if the parties are Greek, in the Turkish language if the parties are Turkish, and in both the Greek and the Turkish languages if the parties are Greek and Turkish. The official language or languages to be used for such purposes in all other cases shall be specified by the Rules of Court made by the High Court under Article 163.

5. Any text in the official Gazette of the Republic shall be published in both official languages in the same issue.

6. (1) Any difference between the Greek and the Turkish texts of any legislative, executive or administrative act or document published in the official Gazette of the Republic, shall be resolved by a competent court.

(2) The prevailing text of any law or decision of a Communal Chamber published in the official Gazette of the Republic shall be that of the language of the Communal Chamber concerned.

(3) Where any difference arises between the Greek and the Turkish texts of an executive or administrative act or document which, though not published in the official Gazette of the Republic, has otherwise been published, a statement by the Minister or any other authority concerned as to which text should prevail or which should be the correct text shall be final and conclusive.

(4) A competent court may grant such remedies as it may deem just in any case of a difference in the texts as aforesaid.

7. The two official languages shall be used on coins, currency notes a stamps.

8. Every person shall have the right to address himself to the authorities of the Republic in either of the official languages.


http://www.kypros.org/Constitution/Engl ... art_i.html
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Postby Oracle » Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:19 am

iceman wrote:
Oracle wrote:
iceman wrote:
Oracle wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
Sotos wrote:The point is that you occupy 1/3rd of our country illegally and you violate the 1960 agreements. If you want to implement the 1960 agreements then you have to agree to implement them fully! Do you? And ECHR has nothing to do with this. This is not about human rights. It is about the 1960 agreements that you refuse! If it was about human rights then we should also have public schools teaching in Russian, English, Polish, Romanian, Arabic etc because there are more of those people in the free areas of Cyprus than the TCs!


Except this country doesn't belong to the Russians, it belongs to youandus which you seem to forget all the time, and proceed to talk even more crap built up on it :roll:

The official languages are Turkish, Greek and English.


Officialdom went out of the window in 1974 ... suspension of provisions allowed under occupation ... read the Constitution ... :roll:


You are talking out of your arse again...
If you knew anything about your constitution you wouldn't be farting here.


Absolute Zero man is back ... :roll: ...

Article 183 []
1. In case of war or other public danger threatening the life of the Republic or any part thereof, the Council of Ministers shall have power, by a decision taken in this respect, to issue a Proclamation of Emergency ...
2. Any such Proclamation shall specify the Articles of the Constitution which shall be suspended for the duration of such Emergency:
Provided that only the following Articles of the Constitution may be suspended by any such Proclamation that is to say: -


Also of relevance to this article ... the Turkish Community should be making financial provision ..... if it had not invaded .... in which case the RoC makes the decisions as it pertains fit ....


Article 108 []
1. The Greek and the Turkish Communities shall have the right to receive subsidies from the Greek or the Turkish Government respectively for institutions of education, culture, athletics and charity belonging to the Greek or the Turkish Community respectively.
2. Also where either the Greek or the Turkish Community considers that it has not the necessary number of schoolmasters, professors or clergymen for the functioning of its institutions, such Community shall have the right to obtain and employ such personnel to the extent strictly necessary to meet its needs as the Greek or the Turkish Government respectively may provide.



why do you bother cluttering the board with the above useless cut & paste?
Shah made a statement about official languages of ROC and you said "Officialdom went out of the window in 1974"
My response was to this statement of yours....
Show me when Turkish language was proclaimed suspended from being one of the two official languages of ROC.


Thickman ... if under an Emergency (ie due to occupation, ie like NOW) the writ of the constitution is SUSPENDED ... that means there is no Official Turkish language .. can you not intepret simple English .... :roll:
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Postby BC Numismatics » Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:21 am

Iceman,then why is the English language retained as a common language then? India has hundreds of languages,so English is retained as an official language in India,as the people of southern India do not speak India's other official language - Hindi,which is similar to Urdu,which is also spoken in India,but is an official language in Pakistan along with English.

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