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[Nurgary]

Lest put this to bed - HMG owns the SBA areas not RoC - Price they paid for RoC.

They may be gifted back to RoC only when HMG decides they don't need them or some of the land mass in them.

No provision for any rent in the treaty agreeing to the SBA's but there was provision (Nothing to do with SBA) to pay RoC grant aid for 5 years. The 1st 3 years paid but final 2 of £1.5m never paid due to the 63 proplems.

[Talisker]

Talisker,
The S.B.A.s have contributed a lot to the Cypriot economy,& has been a very good employer of thousands of native Cypriots,who now enjoy dual citizenship of both Cyprus & Great Britain (through being granted local citizenship of the S.B.A.s).

When the Cyprus Independence Agreement of 1959 was signed,Cyprus was still a British colony.The British Government were free to do as they pleased in Cyprus.By securing sovereignty over the S.B.A.s,Great Britain became a guarantor power.Had Great Britain been able to intervene in 1974,it would have done so.Great Britain had its own war to fight - against the subhumans of Sinn Fein/I.R.A. & their allies in the Romish rebel pirate state (Republic of Ireland).

Aidan.

Aidan,

The arrangement the UK put in place for the SBAs back in 1959 was unique, and unlike any other withdrawals from colonial power (at least to my limited historical knowldege). Major self-interest was at stake.

I refuse to believe that the sole reason the UK did not intervene in 1974 was because of the Irish situation. Where is this documented?

Regards,
Talisker

[BC Numismatics]

Talisker,
The situation in Ulster stretched the capacity of the British Armed Forces,which is why they couldn't intervene after the Turkish invasion,& besides,there was a huge garrison stationed in Germany as part of the Allied occupation of Germany,which still continues today,albeit,on a much smaller scale.

You've also got to remember that it is a long way to fly troops in from Germany to Cyprus.

Aidan.

[Talisker]

Talisker,
The situation in Ulster stretched the capacity of the British Armed Forces,which is why they couldn't intervene after the Turkish invasion,& besides,there was a huge garrison stationed in Germany as part of the Allied occupation of Germany,which still continues today,albeit,on a much smaller scale.

You've also got to remember that it is a long way to fly troops in from Germany to Cyprus.

Aidan.

Aidan,

The UK armed forces were equally stretched for the same reasons in 1982 when Argentina invaded the Falklands. And yet a taskforce was sent halfway round the world to undertake the bidding of the UK government. In both the Cyprus and Falklands situations it was political will, rather than military logistics, that was the defining factor in the UK response - in 1982 it was there, in 1974 it wasn't..........

Regards,
Talisker

[humanist]

Solving the CyProb - should and could the UK assist?

Firstly the British never help anyone but themeselves.

Secondly they meddle.

Last time they tried to help the so called first lady of Britain at the time. Representted two idiots who bought stolen land to rip off a poor refugee who fled from the Turkish gun in 1974.

The British could assist if they trully wanted too. The first step they could take in assisting bringing Cypriots together is to thank the Cyprus government for the past 50-60 years of the use of the two bases on the Island. That would be great good will gesture and will show the TC's that anything is possible if we trully want too.

Anything less than handing back the bases to the government of the Republic of Cyprus is not assistance.

Another assistnace they could offer is an economic embargo on Turkey and a demand that Turkey removes its troops from the occupied Cyprus.