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[turkkan]

Happy independence day everyone.

[Hatter]

Typically illeterate staff from our resident nationalists. At the time half the Albanian were orthodox and the rest muslim. The orthodox Albanians moved to Attiki during the 12th and the 13th centuries after the indeginous populated either left or was decimated by hunger, natural disasters or pirate attacks. In fact many places still have Albanian names like the new airport at Spata. Guess who Spata was.

The revolution did not start on March 25 either. It was not started by Palaion Patron Germanos nor did this obscure priest bless the Greek guns, as we are told at schools, because the church was against the uprising. The emblem, which we were told he raised to start the uprising did not even exist at the time. Lies, lies everywhere. What do such lies have to do with the ancient Greeks? Nothing of course but it is no secret that the present day inhabitants of Greece are barbarians that simply learned Greek. So are the resident forum barbarins

Bananiot,

On what evidence do you support the view that the church did not support the uprising?

[insan]

why do we have tp celebrate some other countries independence day?

Because Cyprus is Greek, it's as simple as that!

Cyprus is Turco-Greco!

[Oracle]

why do we have tp celebrate some other countries independence day?

Because Cyprus is Greek, it's as simple as that!

Cyprus is Turco-Greco!

Like a leech attaching itself to sap the lifeblood

..... Yes insan we know the Turco-gigantico-expansio-landgrabbo ... (especially of anything Greek) .... is the reason you kill and ethnically segregate us!

[Bananiot]

Hatter, that is the most serious question asked so far. Let us see. Spyros Trikouppis wrote in 1875, among else, in his "history of the Greek revolution": "It is a complete and utter lie that the revolution flag was raised at the monastery of Ayia Lavra".

In the meantime, the ideals of the French Revolution touched the hearts of the people under the yoke of the Ottomans and these ideals formed new socioeconomic criteria within the boundaries and even outside the Ottoman Empire. Hence, numerous Albanians fought on the side of the Greek revolutionaries. The church stood firmly against enlightenment and called the people to obey the rulers blindly, like good Christians, because obeying was the "greatest virtue". This stance kept the rulers very happy and allowed the church to maintain its privileges.

When the revolution started, the church through the patriarch in Constantinople, excommunicated the revolution itself and the revolutionaries, including Rigas Feraios and Ipsilantis.

Here is the exact wording of the excommunication:

"... Εκείνους δε τους ασεβείς πρωταιτίους και απονενοημένους φυγάδας και αποστάτας ολεθρίους να τους μισείτε και να τους αποστρέφεστε και διανοία και λόγω, καθότι και η εκκλησία τους έχει μεμισημένους, και επισωρεύει κατ΄ αυτών τας παλαμναιοτάτας και φρικωδεστάτας αράς: ως μέλη σεσηπότα, τους έχει αποκεκομμένους της καθαράς και υγιαινούσης χριστιανικής ολομελείας. Ως παραβάται δε των Θείων νόμων και κανονικών διατάξεων... ΑΦΟΡΙΣΜΕΝΟΙ υπάρχειεν και κατηραμένοι και αυγχώρητοι και μετά θάνατον (...)".

[Bananiot]

DT, was that your making or did you find it in"Pontiki"

[DT.]

DT, was that your making or did you find it in"Pontiki"

not telling

[CBBB]

DT, was that your making or did you find it in"Pontiki"

not telling

So not a squeak out of you then!

[DT.]

DT, was that your making or did you find it in"Pontiki"

not telling

So not a squeak out of you then!

It just so happens that this govt gives plenty of ammunition for ridicule, the pictured minister will go down in history as the biggest clown this country has ever had in a ministerial postition.....(with Lilikas running a close second)

[Bananiot]

No offense but I thought the biggest clowns were his adversaries, such as Chrysostomos, Koulias and the rest of the known gang.

If he does manage to go through the reforms he will be the biggest hero of the republic for so far nobody dared touch this subject fearing the political cost, despite the fact the everybody agrees that reform of the system is long due.

The fact that he says some truths that are not palatable to the self proclaimed patriots is another plus for him.