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GUARANTORSHIP CANNOT BE A BARGAINING

Postby halil » Tue Mar 25, 2008 3:08 pm

Presidential Spokesman Hasan Ercakica has said that the issue of guarantorship can not be a bargaining issue.

Stating that it was possible for the Greek Cypriot Side to bring up the issue at the negotiating table, Mr Ercakica said that the Turkish Cypriot Side’s attitude on the issue was quite clear.
Speaking at his weekly press briefing, the Presidential Spokesman Hasan Ercakica warned that attempts to bring the issue of guarantorship as a bargaining issue could lead to serious disagreement in the negotiations process.

The Presidential Spokesman reminded that the guarantorship treaties, which had an international status, were still in effect.

Responding to claims that the 8-July agreement was put into practice following the meeting between the two leaders on the 21st of March, the spokesman said that 8 July agreement had passed and that a new process had begun on the 21st of March.

Underlining the need to more forward by focusing on issues agreed upon by the two leaders, Mr Ercakica said that such excessive comments and statements on the 8-July agreement will do nothing but harm the new process.

Also touching upon the opening of a crossing at Lokmaci, Ercakica said that the crossing will be opened as soon as possible.

He said that officials from the United Nations and the Cyprus Turkish Security Forces will be coming together for a coordination meeting regarding the issue of sweeping and clearing mines in the area.
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Postby wallace » Tue Mar 25, 2008 3:19 pm

Guarantorship treaties should be disposed of for all involved. Greece, Turkey and the Brits. Guarantorship will be the EU. All foreign forces out of Cyprus is the only solution.

The so called Turkish Security forces stopped the UN from going into the security zone to inventory landmines and other weapons!!! The bullshit starts. The turks will now show who was wearing the mask for the last 34 years.
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Postby Paphitis » Tue Mar 25, 2008 3:25 pm

I agree with you Wallace. There is no need for guarantorships from anyone (Greece, Turkey or UK). Cypriots are mature enough to guarantee there own stability, security and peace. I can not see President Christofias allowing any guarantorships.

Cyprus is a member of EU for heaven's sake.
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Postby halil » Tue Mar 25, 2008 3:48 pm

to bring the issue of guarantorship as a bargaining issue could lead to serious disagreement in the negotiations process.

the guarantorship treaties has international status !!!

this is a warning from TC's side.
this warning must be notice.......
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Postby Paphitis » Tue Mar 25, 2008 3:52 pm

halil wrote:to bring the issue of guarantorship as a bargaining issue could lead to serious disagreement in the negotiations process.

the guarantorship treaties has international status !!!

this is a warning from TC's side.
this warning must be notice.......


Oh Well. Looks like the peace talks are going to collapse. This is my prediction. Such a shame. :cry:
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Mar 25, 2008 4:07 pm

halil wrote:to bring the issue of guarantorship as a bargaining issue could lead to serious disagreement in the negotiations process.

the guarantorship treaties has international status !!!

this is a warning from TC's side.
this warning must be notice.......



Halil, when one sits at a negotiating table, you must be prepared to bend backwards to achieve your aims. To make steadfast statements like one that Ercakica has made can have serious implications on the future of negotiations. IMHO you could discuss all options, even having the EU as a guarantor, with special authorisation to get involved with any problem that may arise. What is to stop the other side from turning away from the table with this attitude? If one side will show flexibility, then I am sure the other side will too.

GIVE PEACE A CHANCE.

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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Mar 25, 2008 4:09 pm

Paphitis wrote:
halil wrote:to bring the issue of guarantorship as a bargaining issue could lead to serious disagreement in the negotiations process.

the guarantorship treaties has international status !!!

this is a warning from TC's side.
this warning must be notice.......


Oh Well. Looks like the peace talks are going to collapse. This is my prediction. Such a shame. :cry:


I agree with you there Bafidis, lets hope he will retract that statement. :roll:
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Postby wallace » Tue Mar 25, 2008 4:15 pm

There is a will from both sides so let's stay optimistic. Like you say deniz....let's hope he will retract that statement and not make any others that can influence the process which has started.
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Postby halil » Tue Mar 25, 2008 4:20 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
halil wrote:to bring the issue of guarantorship as a bargaining issue could lead to serious disagreement in the negotiations process.

the guarantorship treaties has international status !!!

this is a warning from TC's side.
this warning must be notice.......



Halil, when one sits at a negotiating table, you must be prepared to bend backwards to achieve your aims. To make steadfast statements like one that Ercakica has made can have serious implications on the future of negotiations. IMHO you could discuss all options, even having the EU as a guarantor, with special authorisation to get involved with any problem that may arise. What is to stop the other side from turning away from the table with this attitude? If one side will show flexibility, then I am sure the other side will too.

GIVE PEACE A CHANCE.

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Deniz,
you are right GİVE PEACE A CHANCE .....
above statement was one of the red lines of the TC's side .
others were Bi-zonal , Bi-communal and politically equal partnership .
Before the talks , it was declared.

have a look what he is saying:possible for the Greek Cypriot Side to bring up the issue at the negotiating table, Mr Ercakica said that the Turkish Cypriot Side’s attitude on the issue was quite clear.

didn't you see the tread under the title yes to 29 % .
also they said they are ready to talk everything which has been agreed before . but dead line was again same as above.
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Mar 25, 2008 4:29 pm

halil wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
halil wrote:to bring the issue of guarantorship as a bargaining issue could lead to serious disagreement in the negotiations process.

the guarantorship treaties has international status !!!

this is a warning from TC's side.
this warning must be notice.......



Halil, when one sits at a negotiating table, you must be prepared to bend backwards to achieve your aims. To make steadfast statements like one that Ercakica has made can have serious implications on the future of negotiations. IMHO you could discuss all options, even having the EU as a guarantor, with special authorisation to get involved with any problem that may arise. What is to stop the other side from turning away from the table with this attitude? If one side will show flexibility, then I am sure the other side will too.

GIVE PEACE A CHANCE.

Regards


Deniz,
you are right GİVE PEACE A CHANCE .....
above statement was one of the red lines of the TC's side .
others were Bi-zonal , Bi-communal and politically equal partnership .
Before the talks , it was declared.

have a look what he is saying:possible for the Greek Cypriot Side to bring up the issue at the negotiating table, Mr Ercakica said that the Turkish Cypriot Side’s attitude on the issue was quite clear.

didn't you see the tread under the title yes to 29 % .
also they said they are ready to talk everything which has been agreed before . but dead line was again same as above.



I have read it Halil, but am also bearing in mind the other side of the table might be looking for any excuse to halt the talks. It has happened before, there are already some who are rubbing their hands with glee. By all means be prepared for what the Greek speaking side may ask for, just be prepared and dont put all your cards on the table, yet.
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