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Re: GUARANTORSHIP CANNOT BE A BARGAINING

Postby Kifeas » Tue Mar 25, 2008 11:30 pm

halil wrote:Presidential Spokesman Hasan Ercakica has said that the issue of guarantorship can not be a bargaining issue.

Stating that it was possible for the Greek Cypriot Side to bring up the issue at the negotiating table, Mr Ercakica said that the Turkish Cypriot Side’s attitude on the issue was quite clear.
Speaking at his weekly press briefing, the Presidential Spokesman Hasan Ercakica warned that attempts to bring the issue of guarantorship as a bargaining issue could lead to serious disagreement in the negotiations process.

The Presidential Spokesman reminded that the guarantorship treaties, which had an international status, were still in effect.

Responding to claims that the 8-July agreement was put into practice following the meeting between the two leaders on the 21st of March, the spokesman said that 8 July agreement had passed and that a new process had begun on the 21st of March.

Underlining the need to more forward by focusing on issues agreed upon by the two leaders, Mr Ercakica said that such excessive comments and statements on the 8-July agreement will do nothing but harm the new process.

Also touching upon the opening of a crossing at Lokmaci, Ercakica said that the crossing will be opened as soon as possible.

He said that officials from the United Nations and the Cyprus Turkish Security Forces will be coming together for a coordination meeting regarding the issue of sweeping and clearing mines in the area.


Ercakica, fuck you!

If you continue with the same fucked up brains, there will be no solution, Turkey's EU accession process will be terminated for good in a year's time; and you and your community will rot in isolation and in 10-15 years time you will become sucked and consumed by your "motherland," and disappear as a community from the annals of world history!

Fuck you and the mother that shit you, once more!
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Postby Oracle » Tue Mar 25, 2008 11:46 pm

wallace wrote:I don't think so dear Stella (synonimy me tin gynaika mou) Here in the Netherlands we live with various different cultures and I am proud to say that even minorities exist we do live in peace with everybody.


Sorry Wallace ... I assumed you lived in the UK ... love the Netherlands ... nothing against them :D

As for your wife ... na sou zisi :D ... however, since the Turks have got hold of my (short) name ... I will now resort to my real longer name which I used to hate :roll: ( "stell" is a small part of it .... :lol: )


Can never have enough names in my opinion .... :lol:
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Postby wallace » Tue Mar 25, 2008 11:53 pm

Since the Turks got hold of lots of property of my Stella you can guess who's side I am on :D Let's hope for a decent solution to the problem so her family can go home too. ;-)
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:01 am

Oracle wrote:
wallace wrote:I don't think so dear Stella (synonimy me tin gynaika mou) Here in the Netherlands we live with various different cultures and I am proud to say that even minorities exist we do live in peace with everybody.


Sorry Wallace ... I assumed you lived in the UK ... love the Netherlands ... nothing against them :D

As for your wife ... na sou zisi :D ... however, since the Turks have got hold of my (short) name ... I will now resort to my real longer name which I used to hate :roll: ( "stell" is a small part of it .... :lol: )


Can never have enough names in my opinion .... :lol:



Oh no! Not another name change!. Can we call you by your real name then? :wink: :lol:
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Postby CopperLine » Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:03 am

Kifeas,
The “guarantorship” treaties, especially the provisions for unilateral intervention "rights,” have ZERO international status! They crossly contradict with, and are nullified by the UN Charter, thus the Turkish invasion was illegal!


Oh no ! Not this again ! Total nonsense 'nullified by the UN Charter', my eye.

It never ceases to amaze me how this forum goes round and round in ever darkening circles in which no light is allowed to illuminate new or different perspectives. Perhaps this forum is, after all, an accurate reflection of the broader Cyprus problem and the sheer stubborn inability to resolve the issues. As the grand old man said, history repeats itself first as tragedy but the second time as farce. If that is so, cyprus forum discussions repeat themselves as sheer absurdity.
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Postby Oracle » Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:03 am

wallace wrote:Since the Turks got hold of lots of property of my Stella you can guess who's side I am on :D Let's hope for a decent solution to the problem so her family can go home too. ;-)


Good luck wallace and my deepest, kindest best wishes to your Stella (lovely name :D ... wish I did not have to use my really long name again :roll: )
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Postby Oracle » Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:06 am

CopperLine wrote:Kifeas,
The “guarantorship” treaties, especially the provisions for unilateral intervention "rights,” have ZERO international status! They crossly contradict with, and are nullified by the UN Charter, thus the Turkish invasion was illegal!


Oh no ! Not this again ! Total nonsense 'nullified by the UN Charter', my eye.

It never ceases to amaze me how this forum goes round and round in ever darkening circles in which no light is allowed to illuminate new or different perspectives. Perhaps this forum is, after all, an accurate reflection of the broader Cyprus problem and the sheer stubborn inability to resolve the issues. As the grand old man said, history repeats itself first as tragedy but the second time as farce. If that is so, cyprus forum discussions repeat themselves as sheer absurdity.


Ooohhh it's CopperLine ... the philanthropist .... :lol:

Finished sorting the plight of the Kurds out have you .... :wink:
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Postby Viewpoint » Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:15 am

wallace wrote:I don't think so dear Stella (synonimy me tin gynaika mou) Here in the Netherlands we live with various different cultures and I am proud to say that even minorities exist we do live in peace with everybody.


Do you have our history and subsequent agreements? did you go through division?
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Postby Kifeas » Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:16 am

CopperLine wrote:Kifeas,
The “guarantorship” treaties, especially the provisions for unilateral intervention "rights,” have ZERO international status! They crossly contradict with, and are nullified by the UN Charter, thus the Turkish invasion was illegal!


Oh no ! Not this again ! Total nonsense 'nullified by the UN Charter', my eye.

It never ceases to amaze me how this forum goes round and round in ever darkening circles in which no light is allowed to illuminate new or different perspectives. Perhaps this forum is, after all, an accurate reflection of the broader Cyprus problem and the sheer stubborn inability to resolve the issues. As the grand old man said, history repeats itself first as tragedy but the second time as farce. If that is so, cyprus forum discussions repeat themselves as sheer absurdity.


Fuck you Copperline! You are totally clueless! I speak with facts, evidence, documents and legal knowledge; you speak (fart) with your back shit hole! Soon you will find out, and then you will swallow your words, shit and saliva!

Fuck you once more, idiot!
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Re: GUARANTORSHIP CANNOT BE A BARGAINING

Postby Viewpoint » Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:16 am

Kifeas wrote:
halil wrote:Presidential Spokesman Hasan Ercakica has said that the issue of guarantorship can not be a bargaining issue.

Stating that it was possible for the Greek Cypriot Side to bring up the issue at the negotiating table, Mr Ercakica said that the Turkish Cypriot Side’s attitude on the issue was quite clear.
Speaking at his weekly press briefing, the Presidential Spokesman Hasan Ercakica warned that attempts to bring the issue of guarantorship as a bargaining issue could lead to serious disagreement in the negotiations process.

The Presidential Spokesman reminded that the guarantorship treaties, which had an international status, were still in effect.

Responding to claims that the 8-July agreement was put into practice following the meeting between the two leaders on the 21st of March, the spokesman said that 8 July agreement had passed and that a new process had begun on the 21st of March.

Underlining the need to more forward by focusing on issues agreed upon by the two leaders, Mr Ercakica said that such excessive comments and statements on the 8-July agreement will do nothing but harm the new process.

Also touching upon the opening of a crossing at Lokmaci, Ercakica said that the crossing will be opened as soon as possible.

He said that officials from the United Nations and the Cyprus Turkish Security Forces will be coming together for a coordination meeting regarding the issue of sweeping and clearing mines in the area.


Ercakica, fuck you!

If you continue with the same fucked up brains, there will be no solution, Turkey's EU accession process will be terminated for good in a year's time; and you and your community will rot in isolation and in 10-15 years time you will become sucked and consumed by your "motherland," and disappear as a community from the annals of world history!

Fuck you and the mother that shit you, once more!


This is preferred to living in a GC state as a minority, when will you realize this?
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