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[Sotos]

So the first thing the "TC leadership" cared about was how to secure the Turkish interests on our island! And then they want to call themselves Cypriots If TCs really cared for guarantees and not the Turkish interests then they wouldn't mind if the guarantees were from EU or NATO!! Freedom to Cyprus is our red line! All foreign troops OUT of OUR country!!

[Oracle]

Cyprus does not need Guarantorship from anyone, least of all Turkey.

In today's "Times" list of top 50 countries based on prosperity and stability .... Turkey did not make even the top 50 ... so why do we need their brand of poverty and instability on our soil ....

From Times OnlineMarch 25, 2008

Top 50: the most stable and properous countries in the worldTimes Online
A one-year investigation and analysis of 235 countries by Jane's Information Services has put the UK joint seventh in the premier league of nations with the US at 22nd and Switzerland, normally associated with wealth and untouchable stability, is rated 17th.

Here is the full list:

1 Vatican

2 Sweden

3 Luxembourg

4 Monaco

5 Gibraltar

6 San Marino

7 Liechtenstein

8 UK

9 Netherlands

10 Ireland

11 New Zealand

12 Denmark

13 Austria

14 Andorra

15 Germany

16 Iceland

17 Switzerland

18 Portugal

19 Australia

20 Norway

21 Malta

22 France

23 Canada

24 USA

25 Belgium

26 Spain

27 Italy

28 Japan

29 Finland

30 Czech Rep

31 Samoa

32 Falkland Islands

33 Singapore

34 Guam

35 Slovakia

36 Anguilla

37 Cyprus

38 Qatar

39 Montserrat

40 Costa Rica

41 Greece

42 St Pierre and Miq

43 UAE

44 Cayman Islands

45 American Samoa

46 Virgin Islands (UK)

47 Poland

48 St Lucia

49 Oman

50 Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands

[wallace]

I'm happy to be residing in a country from the top 10 :D:D

[Viewpoint]

So you are asking us to trust the EU who has no task force in moments of crisis and to boot do not keep their word, ho hold I have to conduct 500 meetings before deciding whether they want to save lives, no thanks. Turkey should be a guarantor to the northern state only until they enter the EU, with an option if the TC feel safe to cease the guarantorship at anytime during the follow up to entry. Hows that sound?

[Oracle]

I'm happy to be residing in a country from the top 10 :D:D

Well did that country make it into the top ten because it has managed to make a great number of other countries drop their ratings, through lack of "stability" ..... perhaps?

(... Cyprus scoring high on prosperity, but losing points on stability due to Turkey's and UK's negative influences ? .. ..)

[Jerry]

Guarantorship by Turkey effectively means that Cyprus is not a sovereign State. The legal right of any country to intervene, without an invitation, in another country's affairs is contrary to democratic principles. As a compromise and to shut the post Ottoman Imperialists up I would favour EU guarantees, if the EU failed to enforce its guarantees then both Turkey and Greece would then have the right to intervene. The TCs have got to forget the undemocratic rights and privileges they were granted in 1960, ideally a new Cyprus Constitution should start with a blank sheet of paper.

[Viewpoint]

Guarantorship by Turkey effectively means that Cyprus is not a sovereign State. The legal right of any country to intervene, without an invitation, in another country's affairs is contrary to democratic principles. As a compromise and to shut the post Ottoman Imperialists up I would favour EU guarantees, if the EU failed to enforce its guarantees then both Turkey and Greece would then have the right to intervene. The TCs have got to forget the undemocratic rights and privileges they were granted in 1960, ideally a new Cyprus Constitution should start with a blank sheet of paper.

So we would have to wait for the beauracratic cumberson no task force EU to act while people are suffering, as my life would be on the table no thanks, the Turkish army until they enter the EU with a opt out clause for TCs if all goes well.

[denizaksulu]

So you are asking us to trust the EU who has no task force in moments of crisis and to boot do not keep their word, ho hold I have to conduct 500 meetings before deciding whether they want to save lives, no thanks. Turkey should be a guarantor to the northern state only until they enter the EU, with an option if the TC feel safe to cease the guarantorship at anytime during the follow up to entry. Hows that sound?

What I am saying is sit and talk and dont make statements like Ercakica has. It would be used as an excuse to avoid meetings.

[Viewpoint]

So you are asking us to trust the EU who has no task force in moments of crisis and to boot do not keep their word, ho hold I have to conduct 500 meetings before deciding whether they want to save lives, no thanks. Turkey should be a guarantor to the northern state only until they enter the EU, with an option if the TC feel safe to cease the guarantorship at anytime during the follow up to entry. Hows that sound?

What I am saying is sit and talk and dont make statements like Ercakica has. It would be used as an excuse to avoid meetings.

I agree the media sometimes do more bad than good. He is probably saying this for local consumption.

[purdey]

Not more jealousy Phoenix.You should be pleased, didn't the UK help you in times of crisis..
Switzerland on the decline, no suprise there, finally restoring the funds and wealth taken from the Jews in WW2..