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The Last of the Turkish Cypriots ......

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Postby Get Real! » Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:38 pm

miltiades wrote:How wrong can some one be !! Almost a year ago this young Cypriot was telling us that she was a "unificationist" , did not get much respect from a certain someone. I wished I had seen her post then , I have now , and I'm so proud that my position , along with that of so many other true Cypriots on the Cyprus issue is also shared by our young whose future we MUST protect , it is our duty to ensure that our youngsters , and my two grandchildren ( hope I have a few more ) have a peaceful and a joyful existence in our beloved Cyprus .

With your profound hatred for Arabs and Moslems what exactly is this “position” you often boast given that Turkish Cypriots are Muslims? :?
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Postby zan » Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:39 pm

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denizaksulu wrote:I will return the complement. I am alive and kicking. Beware. You are so sad.


Hahahahaaaaaa! A biologist telling a person that his memory excludes him from any further debate......Tell us oh great scientist Stella.....Can some other aid be found to compensate for this inability... :roll: :roll:


You don't have to be a Biologist to realise someone may need the odd reminder to take their Ginseng :lol:

At least I didn't suggest he take a rest, for his political views :wink:

But I'll allow you this excuse to ingratiate yourself with Deniz, once again .....


There is no need........ 8)
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Postby miltiades » Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:41 pm

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xxNilxx wrote:I'm not anti-Cyprus.. I'm unificationist :)

But you are so annoying, and you think you are always right for everything.
I am turkish cypriot, not pro-Turkish and i really don't care what you call me.

'half-brained' is what they call people like you who have no other subject to talk about.


Goodbye .....

... you are the last of a dying group .... ironically killed off by your very creators ... the Turks :lol:


How wrong can some one be !! Almost a year ago this young Cypriot was telling us that she was a "unificationist" , did not get much respect from a certain someone. I wished I had seen her post then , I have now , and I'm so proud that my position , along with that of so many other true Cypriots on the Cyprus issue is also shared by our young whose future we MUST protect , it is our duty to ensure that our youngsters , and my two grandchildren ( hope I have a few more ) have a peaceful and a joyful existence in our beloved Cyprus .


You didn't notice her then, because she had a different persona (same name, but different personality). I'll wait to see how long the new one lasts (and her brand of "unification") before I jump on any bandwagons.

I actually pmed her way back in May of 2008 , I can publish my pm to her so you can see for yourself .Please note I , of course would NEVER publish her PM to me as some people do !!!!
Here is my pm to her last May.

"""Have noted that you are a girl , I apologise for the error.
Those whose ONLY agenda is the spreading of malicious hatred against my compatriots , which are the G/Cs the T/Cs , Armenians and others. My allegiance is to my country which happens to be CYPRUS not bloody Greece or Turkey , therefore those that want to deny my right to my country are considered to be justified targets .
You should try and read , as I suggested , Sevgul Uludag's book " OYSTERS WITH THE MISSING PEARLS.
You will see that the fanatics from all sides were the criminals who caused mayhem in my country.
The G/Cs had every right to wage a war of independence against the British , what they did not have a right to do was to ignore the wishes of the T/Cs. Rest assured that had the T/Cs been the 80% instead of 18% they would have behaved in exactly the same fashion. We need to understand each others concerns and fears and respect the other sites right to freedom and enjoyment of their human rights .The T/Cs are a decent sort of people and so are the G/Cs . Please tone down your views don't be an extremist like the ........ of this world. If you wish to find out about me I suggest you ask Halil.
Regards and I once again apologise for calling you a little shit .
Miltiades


As you can see , consistency is still here !!!
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Postby Oracle » Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:58 pm

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xxNilxx wrote:I'm not anti-Cyprus.. I'm unificationist :)

But you are so annoying, and you think you are always right for everything.
I am turkish cypriot, not pro-Turkish and i really don't care what you call me.

'half-brained' is what they call people like you who have no other subject to talk about.


Goodbye .....

... you are the last of a dying group .... ironically killed off by your very creators ... the Turks :lol:


How wrong can some one be !! Almost a year ago this young Cypriot was telling us that she was a "unificationist" , did not get much respect from a certain someone. I wished I had seen her post then , I have now , and I'm so proud that my position , along with that of so many other true Cypriots on the Cyprus issue is also shared by our young whose future we MUST protect , it is our duty to ensure that our youngsters , and my two grandchildren ( hope I have a few more ) have a peaceful and a joyful existence in our beloved Cyprus .


You didn't notice her then, because she had a different persona (same name, but different personality). I'll wait to see how long the new one lasts (and her brand of "unification") before I jump on any bandwagons.

I actually pmed her way back in May of 2008 , I can publish my pm to her so you can see for yourself .Please note I , of course would NEVER publish her PM to me as some people do !!!!
Here is my pm to her last May.

"""Have noted that you are a girl , I apologise for the error.
Those whose ONLY agenda is the spreading of malicious hatred against my compatriots , which are the G/Cs the T/Cs , Armenians and others. My allegiance is to my country which happens to be CYPRUS not bloody Greece or Turkey , therefore those that want to deny my right to my country are considered to be justified targets .
You should try and read , as I suggested , Sevgul Uludag's book " OYSTERS WITH THE MISSING PEARLS.
You will see that the fanatics from all sides were the criminals who caused mayhem in my country.
The G/Cs had every right to wage a war of independence against the British , what they did not have a right to do was to ignore the wishes of the T/Cs. Rest assured that had the T/Cs been the 80% instead of 18% they would have behaved in exactly the same fashion. We need to understand each others concerns and fears and respect the other sites right to freedom and enjoyment of their human rights .The T/Cs are a decent sort of people and so are the G/Cs . Please tone down your views don't be an extremist like the ........ of this world. If you wish to find out about me I suggest you ask Halil.
Regards and I once again apologise for calling you a little shit .
Miltiades


As you can see , consistency is still here !!!


Please refer to her initial posts ... the ones which weren't written ALL in Turkish (or deleted I suppose).

Miltiades ... I do not wish to enter into an exchange on this person's character and posts. I would rather criticise or praise each post for its content and not the personality. That is your pastime.
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Postby miltiades » Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:30 pm

Get Real! wrote:
miltiades wrote:How wrong can some one be !! Almost a year ago this young Cypriot was telling us that she was a "unificationist" , did not get much respect from a certain someone. I wished I had seen her post then , I have now , and I'm so proud that my position , along with that of so many other true Cypriots on the Cyprus issue is also shared by our young whose future we MUST protect , it is our duty to ensure that our youngsters , and my two grandchildren ( hope I have a few more ) have a peaceful and a joyful existence in our beloved Cyprus .

With your profound hatred for Arabs and Moslems what exactly is this “position” you often boast given that Turkish Cypriots are Muslims? :?

You have it wrong mate as always . I do not hate the Arabs and I most certainly do not hate the Muslims , most of my customers are after all Muslims.
What I hate and detest are the mindless fanatics who blow themselves up massacring innocent men women and children. As for the Arabic way of life , they can keep it NOT my culture or that of the T/Cs.
The one who has an insatiable appetite for hatred is you Mister with your grotesque statements on so many aspects of life . You are a rather sick and pathetic individual who lives in a fools paradise , even considers himself to be intelligent when in fact your brain is no bigger than that of an AL Qaeda suicide prospective candidate.
Used to like you because you exhibited certain witty persona but that has vaporised , in fact I think you are a proper arsehole mate !
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:00 am

You are fighting a losing battle miltiades, a minority living in utopia who dont know their own people.
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Jan 15, 2009 1:00 am

Viewpoint wrote:You are fighting a losing battle miltiades, a minority living in utopia who dont know their own people.

Which minority is this and what utopia are you talking about?
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Jan 15, 2009 1:15 am

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Viewpoint wrote:You are fighting a losing battle miltiades, a minority living in utopia who dont know their own people.

Which minority is this and what utopia are you talking about?


The militiades minority of GCs who live in cuckoo land.
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Postby miltiades » Thu Jan 15, 2009 11:04 am

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Viewpoint wrote:You are fighting a losing battle miltiades, a minority living in utopia who dont know their own people.

Which minority is this and what utopia are you talking about?


The militiades minority of GCs who live in cuckoo land.

It must realy hurt VP , knowing that the young T/Cs are telling the occupying troops where to go .
Here is what a T/C wrote in September 2008 , you do remember VURYEK dont you , is he also living in cloud cuckoo land are the thousands of young and old T/Cs who are against the occupation also inhabitants of cloud cuckoo land , the only cuckoo land is the Turkish creation of the "trnc" that thinks itself as the only legit Cypriot authority !!!
And you too VP an inhabitant of this cloud cuckoo land.

SEPTEMBER 08, BY VURYEK:

Thanks for your friendly and honest post. Since I am not familiar enough with English there will be misunderstandings.

Your irony about “mixed” villages was perfect. It is not so old, but nobody remembers that there was not much national separation before 1950. Actually we have some records that there were “mixed” trade unions without being aware of they are “mixed”, which was written in Drushotis’s book, EOKA.

I think we need more sociological analysis about our societies to design a more proper solution because all communities have been damaged during the geopolitical games of other countries which they have been playing on Cyprus. Thus, we have an unnatural division, which have also caused unnatural differences, and unnatural wounds on our social structure. These wounds are the price of our mistakes.

Think the TC have been paying the biggest price. They believed that they have “TRNC” but since approximately %40 of North is Turkish military area, they have had to stay in %60 and stay away from rest %40. They didn’t care about that because they had lands of GC’s and economical “support” of Turkey. (Note: 20 years ago it was a taboo to say that “Turkey is paying our money”). They believed they will have a real economy, tried to put up factories or use what GC left behind but in a small time Turkey first put quota than She have put embargoes to Turkish Cypriot Products. Shortly after the “TRNC” has started to import everything, what it can produce, and these substitute goods of Turkey killed the production of “TRNC”. All TC factories bankrupt. Then it came to TC banks. Many of TC banks collapsed during 1996-1998 economic crises. There are still unproved information about that “TRNC” leadership made them collapse deliberately, in order to import Turkey’s Banks. Somehow they couldn’t beat TC cooperatives so 3 years ago “TRNC” leadership made new laws to demolish them. Meantime have start to get more settlers, especially when Denktash and Turkey start to feel the “wind of change” which can effect elections. They have granted id pass to Turkey population, which means they don’t need passport to enter “TRNC”. They gave thousands of TRNC citizenship in last two decades in order to control elections. These settlers start to settle in old Villages. Now TC hasn’t got more that several villages. These settlers also took the old city centers, which TC left.

During 1990s TC start to feel that they have been losing many things. With the unnatural history and unnatural nationalism education TC have started to be something else than Cypriot. TC have been resisting to be “TURK” for many years but because of our real Culture has been taken from us (Once Denktash said “There is no such thing as Cypriot, the only thing that is Cypriot is donkeys!” and “Forget about Cypriot traditional dances and learn Turkish traditional dances”) and that “believed TRNC” lands have been started to taken from TC, a serious socio-cultural id problem has appeared.

And now Turkish investors are buying all lands to build hotels or estates, “TRNC” leadership is also selling historical areas to them. In courts nobody can touch to settlers, many simple trials are withdrawn by order of Turkish embassy. Turkey are trying to bring fanatic religionist Islamic education to North. Now, everybody recently have start to realize, “T.R.N.C” in not real and never been theirs. “TRNC” leadership has never been a leadership; it was only a group of servants. The elections have only been racetrack of servants. Even parliament building is not real, it was Dianellos Tobacco Factory before it has been stolen.

I know it took too long my friend but these are summary of damages which effects socio psychology of TC. Thus in order to create health design, we must consider about all this kind of wounds. Yes I can live with others under the Unitarian Government but I cannot talk for rest of TC…. yet! It is certain that all these years TC have been fooled by Turkey and his servants that they have gain “self determination” / ” sovereignty”, but in reality they haven’t. The schools have indicated that “self dominance “ is most important thing, but TC never get it. So with realizing all reality, this complex has grown. When I consider with this perspective, 2 assembly parliament under one real government may be a good start for many things and of course this government must include Maronites (I knowit is not enough to pay our sins).

I want to note that I am completely against "two separated" governments.

Already In this 30 years of "TRNC" hallucination we already tried that. We cannot make separated
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