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Postby Oracle » Tue Mar 25, 2008 11:58 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
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Bananiot wrote:Have you ever wondered, oracle, what brought about the bombings by the Turkish airforce? Did Turkey wake up one morning in August 1964 and said "today I will bomb Tillyria"?


Pray ... do tell the Turkish side for me dear Bananiot ..... the spokesperson of the silent minority :roll:



Your allegations about the 1963 period are so outragous and misplaced, the 'silent minority' as you call them remain silent. As you will find yourself talking to yourself. Well, Bananot can enlighten you if he wishes so. Your rantings are best ignored.


What allegations about the 1963 - 1964 period does your forgetful brain object to Deniz .....

Turkish jets had dropped 750lbs (340 kg) of bombs and napalm on their strongholds in north-west Cyprus.
... this was near my village :evil:
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:07 am

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Bananiot wrote:Have you ever wondered, oracle, what brought about the bombings by the Turkish airforce? Did Turkey wake up one morning in August 1964 and said "today I will bomb Tillyria"?


Pray ... do tell the Turkish side for me dear Bananiot ..... the spokesperson of the silent minority :roll:



Your allegations about the 1963 period are so outragous and misplaced, the 'silent minority' as you call them remain silent. As you will find yourself talking to yourself. Well, Bananot can enlighten you if he wishes so. Your rantings are best ignored.


What allegations about the 1963 - 1964 period does your forgetful brain object to Deniz .....

Turkish jets had dropped 750lbs (340 kg) of bombs and napalm on their strongholds in north-west Cyprus.
... this was near my village :evil:



Oh yes :

the riots of December 1963 and your feeble reference.

I thought you were going to give me a decent referencewhich didnot appear. That one liner you copied and pasted is crap and you know it.

....and you did not read Bananiots response to you (or did you choose to disregard it?
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Postby Oracle » Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:13 am

denizaksulu wrote:
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Bananiot wrote:Have you ever wondered, oracle, what brought about the bombings by the Turkish airforce? Did Turkey wake up one morning in August 1964 and said "today I will bomb Tillyria"?


Pray ... do tell the Turkish side for me dear Bananiot ..... the spokesperson of the silent minority :roll:



Your allegations about the 1963 period are so outragous and misplaced, the 'silent minority' as you call them remain silent. As you will find yourself talking to yourself. Well, Bananot can enlighten you if he wishes so. Your rantings are best ignored.


What allegations about the 1963 - 1964 period does your forgetful brain object to Deniz .....

Turkish jets had dropped 750lbs (340 kg) of bombs and napalm on their strongholds in north-west Cyprus.
... this was near my village :evil:



Oh yes :

the riots of December 1963 and your feeble reference.

I thought you were going to give me a decent referencewhich didnot appear. That one liner you copied and pasted is crap and you know it.

....and you did not read Bananiots response to you (or did you choose to disregard it?


Deniz ..... you have removed yourself from the debating arena with your confession regarding your memory problems ...

Now go find the thread and the reference will be staring you in the face ..

.... if you do not like legitimate references ... that is your look-out

.... for I do not like your illegitimate use of my country ...

So eff off ..... :evil:
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:21 am

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denizaksulu wrote:
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denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Bananiot wrote:Have you ever wondered, oracle, what brought about the bombings by the Turkish airforce? Did Turkey wake up one morning in August 1964 and said "today I will bomb Tillyria"?


Pray ... do tell the Turkish side for me dear Bananiot ..... the spokesperson of the silent minority :roll:



Your allegations about the 1963 period are so outragous and misplaced, the 'silent minority' as you call them remain silent. As you will find yourself talking to yourself. Well, Bananot can enlighten you if he wishes so. Your rantings are best ignored.


What allegations about the 1963 - 1964 period does your forgetful brain object to Deniz .....

Turkish jets had dropped 750lbs (340 kg) of bombs and napalm on their strongholds in north-west Cyprus.
... this was near my village :evil:



Oh yes :

the riots of December 1963 and your feeble reference.

I thought you were going to give me a decent referencewhich didnot appear. That one liner you copied and pasted is crap and you know it.

....and you did not read Bananiots response to you (or did you choose to disregard it?


Deniz ..... you have removed yourself from the debating arena with your confession regarding your memory problems ...

Now go find the thread and the reference will be staring you in the face ..

.... if you do not like legitimate references ... that is your look-out

.... for I do not like your illegitimate use of my country ...

So eff off ..... :evil:



I will return the complement. I am alive and kicking. Beware. You are so sad.
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Postby Oracle » Fri Mar 28, 2008 6:52 pm

http://agrino.org/humrights/agrsion/agrsion.htm

5. OPPRESSION OF TURKISH CYPRIOTS.
As a result of the Turkish invasion of Cyprus and the continuing occupation of the northern part of the island, the rights and freedoms of the Turkish Cypriots were, and still are, violated.

According to several statements made by Turkish Cypriots who, either escaped from the Turkish occupied areas to the Government controlled areas or talked to foreign journalists, the Turkish armed forces have complete and exclusive control on the areas in question. Inspite of the efforts made by Turkey and the Turkish Cypriot leadership to persuade the foreign Governments and, generally, the world public opinion that there is a “democratically elected administration” in northern Cyprus, the fact is that all the powers, military, political, executive, even judicial, are in the hands of the occupying forces, acting in the exercise of authority given to them by Turkey. Denktash’s “administration” acts within the framework of the authority and power which the “security needs” permit.

The Turkish Cypriot population is bitterly disappointed by the Turkish Cypriot leadership and this disappointment is shown in several articles and statements, which have been appeared in the Turkish Cypriot press.

Since the appearance of the Turkish settlers in the occupied areas of Cyprus, criminality has been increased. The victims of this criminality are the Turkish Cypriots who realize with astonishment that the occupying forces and the Denktash’s regime tolerate the criminal actions of the mainland settlers.

In May 1978, two armed Turkish settlers stopped a group of Turkish Cypriot men and women returning home from work on their tractor and they dragged one of the young girls from the tractor, into the forest and raped her. Dr. Fazil Kuchuk, the former Turkish Cypriot Vice-President of the Republic of Cyprus, wrote an article about that incident in “Halkin Sesi” on 24.5.1978 and some extracts from that article are quoted:
“…. The incident was the product of “heroism” on the part of two persons who knew how to avail themselves of the facilities provided by the wrong and lame settlement policy being followed for the past 4 years. We have been writing for years and we have been asking the authorities to do something on this issue. Nobody heard us and as a result this paradise island has been turned into hell… We warned the officials once again. We told them that these newcomers would be a nuisance to our decent citizens: We told them to halt them before it becomes too late…. Moreover, new officials emerged who would protect these persons. They said: “You can not touch citizens of the Turkish Republic”. It meant that they would not work and we would feed and clothe them and do anything they wanted us to do. It was those who found this protection who started believing that they were perfectly legal and who strangled drivers, robed houses and exhibited unprecedented skill in theft….. The incident at Ayios Andronikos cannot be considered to be a simple police case. The Turkish Cypriots have not experienced such an incident since 1571 …. The surrender of government power to thugs can mean bringing us face to face with far more serious incidents in the future”.
On the following day, 25.5.1978, Dr. Fazil Kuchuk wrote another article in “Halkin Sesi”, commenting generally on the presence of the mainland settlers in the Turkish occupied areas of Cyprus:
“… People who are as impolite and uncivilized as to split in the face of the police should be sent back to their villages. The sooner they are sent back the sooner they will find the freedom they want and the sooner the Turkish Cypriot community … will find tranquility.”
The living conditions in the occupied areas of Cyprus were also described by a statement made by the “Turkish Cypriot Patriotic Women’s Association” at the end of May 1978. The statement said that under the present disorderly state, the women in the “Turkish Federated State of Cyprus” are suffering, are being exploited and derided upon more and more. The statement added that under the existing exploitation and systematic looting there could not be a prospect of happiness in the “Turkish Federated State of Cyprus” for families and children.
The above-mentioned examples show that the Turkish Cypriot community lives under oppression and, on several occasions, the human rights of the Turkish Cypriots have been violated. Reference is especially made to the rights of those Turkish Cypriots who were forcibly transferred by their leaders from their homes in the free areas, to the Turkish occupied part of Cyprus.

It was stated many times by Turkish Cypriots that if the Turkish troops were to be withdrawn, all the Turkish Cypriots having their homes in the Government controlled areas, would immediately return, since they have nothing to fear from their Greek Cypriot compatriots.

The great desire of the Turkish Cypriot population to live together again with the Greek Cypriots and to work for the common progress of the Republic of Cyprus, is shown, inter alia, in a message sent by the Turkish Cypriot Students to the 5th Congress of the Pancyprian Federation of Students and Young Scientists, held in Nicosia in August 1978. Some extracts from the message are quoted herebelow:

“But days will come when all the Cypriot students will unite and under the same roof, under the same leadership and in the same organization will fight for their democratic rights, rights which have not been respected so far.
“A common struggle by the students and people, Greeks and Turks, against the enemies of Cyprus is the only way to fight the beasts who are ready to massacre our small island. Only in this way will we achieve freedom, democracy and social progress in Cyprus.
“Only united we’ll be able to use our knowledge and experience for the prosperity and happiness of our island”.
This is enough evidence that Turkey, through its armed forces in Cyprus, violates the right of free movement within the territory of the State, the right of freedom of settlement, the right of owning property and many other rights of the Turkish Cypriots, insisting in her policy of artificial separation of the people of Cyprus, in order to achieve her dark aims.
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Postby miltiades » Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:28 am

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xxNilxx wrote:I'm not anti-Cyprus.. I'm unificationist :)

But you are so annoying, and you think you are always right for everything.
I am turkish cypriot, not pro-Turkish and i really don't care what you call me.

'half-brained' is what they call people like you who have no other subject to talk about.


Goodbye .....

... you are the last of a dying group .... ironically killed off by your very creators ... the Turks :lol:


How wrong can some one be !! Almost a year ago this young Cypriot was telling us that she was a "unificationist" , did not get much respect from a certain someone. I wished I had seen her post then , I have now , and I'm so proud that my position , along with that of so many other true Cypriots on the Cyprus issue is also shared by our young whose future we MUST protect , it is our duty to ensure that our youngsters , and my two grandchildren ( hope I have a few more ) have a peaceful and a joyful existence in our beloved Cyprus .
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Postby zan » Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:52 am

denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Bananiot wrote:Have you ever wondered, oracle, what brought about the bombings by the Turkish airforce? Did Turkey wake up one morning in August 1964 and said "today I will bomb Tillyria"?


Pray ... do tell the Turkish side for me dear Bananiot ..... the spokesperson of the silent minority :roll:



Your allegations about the 1963 period are so outragous and misplaced, the 'silent minority' as you call them remain silent. As you will find yourself talking to yourself. Well, Bananot can enlighten you if he wishes so. Your rantings are best ignored.


What allegations about the 1963 - 1964 period does your forgetful brain object to Deniz .....

Turkish jets had dropped 750lbs (340 kg) of bombs and napalm on their strongholds in north-west Cyprus.
... this was near my village :evil:



Oh yes :

the riots of December 1963 and your feeble reference.

I thought you were going to give me a decent referencewhich didnot appear. That one liner you copied and pasted is crap and you know it.

....and you did not read Bananiots response to you (or did you choose to disregard it?


Deniz ..... you have removed yourself from the debating arena with your confession regarding your memory problems ...

Now go find the thread and the reference will be staring you in the face ..

.... if you do not like legitimate references ... that is your look-out

.... for I do not like your illegitimate use of my country ...

So eff off ..... :evil:



I will return the complement. I am alive and kicking. Beware. You are so sad.


Hahahahaaaaaa! A biologist telling a person that his memory excludes him from any further debate......Tell us oh great scientist Stella.....Can some other aid be found to compensate for this inability... :roll: :roll:
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Postby Oracle » Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:28 pm

miltiades wrote:
Oracle wrote:
xxNilxx wrote:I'm not anti-Cyprus.. I'm unificationist :)

But you are so annoying, and you think you are always right for everything.
I am turkish cypriot, not pro-Turkish and i really don't care what you call me.

'half-brained' is what they call people like you who have no other subject to talk about.


Goodbye .....

... you are the last of a dying group .... ironically killed off by your very creators ... the Turks :lol:


How wrong can some one be !! Almost a year ago this young Cypriot was telling us that she was a "unificationist" , did not get much respect from a certain someone. I wished I had seen her post then , I have now , and I'm so proud that my position , along with that of so many other true Cypriots on the Cyprus issue is also shared by our young whose future we MUST protect , it is our duty to ensure that our youngsters , and my two grandchildren ( hope I have a few more ) have a peaceful and a joyful existence in our beloved Cyprus .


You didn't notice her then, because she had a different persona (same name, but different personality). I'll wait to see how long the new one lasts (and her brand of "unification") before I jump on any bandwagons.
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Postby zan » Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:32 pm

Oracle wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Oracle wrote:
xxNilxx wrote:I'm not anti-Cyprus.. I'm unificationist :)

But you are so annoying, and you think you are always right for everything.
I am turkish cypriot, not pro-Turkish and i really don't care what you call me.

'half-brained' is what they call people like you who have no other subject to talk about.


Goodbye .....

... you are the last of a dying group .... ironically killed off by your very creators ... the Turks :lol:


How wrong can some one be !! Almost a year ago this young Cypriot was telling us that she was a "unificationist" , did not get much respect from a certain someone. I wished I had seen her post then , I have now , and I'm so proud that my position , along with that of so many other true Cypriots on the Cyprus issue is also shared by our young whose future we MUST protect , it is our duty to ensure that our youngsters , and my two grandchildren ( hope I have a few more ) have a peaceful and a joyful existence in our beloved Cyprus .


You didn't notice her then, because she had a different persona (same name, but different personality). I'll wait to see how long the new one lasts (and her brand of "unification") before I jump on any bandwagons.


When ou are trundling around on your grass patch trying to build a nest for your off spring...Could you kindly keep your fat arse off my patch.... :lol:
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Postby Oracle » Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:35 pm

zan wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:I will return the complement. I am alive and kicking. Beware. You are so sad.


Hahahahaaaaaa! A biologist telling a person that his memory excludes him from any further debate......Tell us oh great scientist Stella.....Can some other aid be found to compensate for this inability... :roll: :roll:


You don't have to be a Biologist to realise someone may need the odd reminder to take their Ginseng :lol:

At least I didn't suggest he take a rest, for his political views :wink:

But I'll allow you this excuse to ingratiate yourself with Deniz, once again .....
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