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[londoner]

Lets rejoice in the positive, I sure there will be lots of disagreements, but unless both sides are willing to compromise there is no hope - I believe its either settlement this time or partition - we cannot go on repaeting this farce every 5-10 years. The negative posters are the ones who need to be convinced and both leaders will have a job in selling any agreement as the range of posts displays.

[repulsewarrior]

Ah leaders shmeaders!

I know the score, if i just burry my head under the sand and keep repeating the words "Turks out of Cyprus!", it might actually happen!

Shah .... this may come as a shock to you, but I live in a country where I expect my leaders to listen to what I want ...

Yes, don't we all Phoenix

...the army will not go anywhere until hate towards us such as yours still exists on this island!

"us", shah, does this mean that you are a Turk? does this mean that the Turlish Army is here in Cyprus to protect Turks, as opposed to Turcophones. Furthermore, do you hate Greeks as much, having a need for such a large Army of occupation, or are you being specific about OP, and that not all Grecophones are the same?

[Viewpoint]

Ah leaders shmeaders!

I know the score, if i just burry my head under the sand and keep repeating the words "Turks out of Cyprus!", it might actually happen!

Shah .... this may come as a shock to you, but I live in a country where I expect my leaders to listen to what I want ...

Yes, don't we all Phoenix

...the army will not go anywhere until hate towards us such as yours still exists on this island!

"us", shah, does this mean that you are a Turk? does this mean that the Turlish Army is here in Cyprus to protect Turks, as opposed to Turcophones. Furthermore, do you hate Greeks as much, having a need for such a large Army of occupation, or are you being specific about OP, and that not all Grecophones are the same?

Why does the size of the army make any difference? and why do you want to reduce the numbers?

[utu]

It's a start, and who knows where this one will go. One must have hope, though people like Oracle have already made up their minds. Sorry, Oracle, but perhaps you should have the initials U. S. placed in your name (which stands for UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER) as it reflects what is clearly your only satisfactory solution: Unconditional surrender of the Turkish Cypriots to your tender mercies.
If a solution IS found, there is probably going to be disappointment from both sides, but that's the art of diplomacy. There is a lot to gain potentially from all of this, but also a lot to lose. People like you, Oracle, are going to have to make a decision - is a part of a loaf better than no loaf at all? Reunification is necessary, but a return to the civil war of the Republic's early years cannot be allowed to happen.

[Viewpoint]

It's a start, and who knows where this one will go. One must have hope, though people like Oracle have already made up their minds. Sorry, Oracle, but perhaps you should have the initials U. S. placed in your name (which stands for UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER) as it reflects what is clearly your only satisfactory solution: Unconditional surrender of the Turkish Cypriots to your tender mercies.
If a solution IS found, there is probably going to be disappointment from both sides, but that's the art of diplomacy. There is a lot to gain potentially from all of this, but also a lot to lose. People like you, Oracle, are going to have to make a decision - is a part of a loaf better than no loaf at all? Reunification is necessary, but a return to the civil war of the Republic's early years cannot be allowed to happen.

That's what the search is for a balance that will allow both communities the right to influence their own future without being forced or dominated by the the other, maybe its impossible and why we have not been sucessful in our search.

[repulsewarrior]

VP i am writing to shah, so that he too should choose his words more wisely...

utu, indeed hopeful, and i agree with your observations.

If a solution IS found, there is probably going to be disappointment from both sides, but that's the art of diplomacy. There is a lot to gain potentially from all of this, but also a lot to lose. People like you, Oracle, (and Big Al) are going to have to make a decision - is a part of a loaf better than no loaf at all? Reunification is necessary, but a return to the civil war of the Republic's early years cannot be allowed to happen.

nb my addition in brackets.

[repulsewarrior]

...trying to tinker with the things the way they are is no solution, VP, imo, and it is most likely the reason for the impasse.

[shahmaran]

Ah leaders shmeaders!

I know the score, if i just burry my head under the sand and keep repeating the words "Turks out of Cyprus!", it might actually happen!

Shah .... this may come as a shock to you, but I live in a country where I expect my leaders to listen to what I want ...

Yes, don't we all Phoenix

...the army will not go anywhere until hate towards us such as yours still exists on this island!

"us", shah, does this mean that you are a Turk? does this mean that the Turlish Army is here in Cyprus to protect Turks, as opposed to Turcophones. Furthermore, do you hate Greeks as much, having a need for such a large Army of occupation, or are you being specific about OP, and that not all Grecophones are the same?

I am a TC Repulse, and by us i mean US because i am not sure just how far Phoenix's hate towards US goes, she says she only hates the settlers yet she calls us the traitors and so forth.

I really don't hate anyone specific to their ethnicity and have no control over the numbers the Turkish army chooses to bring.

[shahmaran]

Maybe the reason for the overwhelming numbers might be the fact that Turkey is historically, fully aware of the Greek opportunistic attack tactics and with such a large number of soldiers Turkey guarantees that no such attempt could be dared, hence why there hasn't really been any violence what so ever for the last 30 years.

[bill cobbett]

Maybe the reason for the overwhelming numbers might be the fact that Turkey is historically, fully aware of the Greek opportunistic attack tactics and with such a large number of soldiers Turkey guarantees that no such attempt could be dared, hence why there hasn't really been any violence what so ever for the last 30 years.

The fool known as Shagaman writes " .. violence whatsoever for the last 30 years... " The rest of the world and I saw Solomon Solomou shot dead for climbing a flag-pole and Tassos Isaac clubbed to death for joining a demonstration. May the Lord have mercy on their souls and on those of their murderous killers. May He also have mercy on the soul of the member known as Shagaman for his deceitful posts, short memory, poor spelling and lack of respect for the suffering of anyone outside the northern community.

As to the meeting between President X and Talit. I for one share hopes that it's the start of something that will lead (eventually) to a one person, one vote solution with no special treatment for either community as in other EU member states.

... ethnically cleansed from the north by Shagaman and his friends in the Turkish Army