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[Bananiot]

I do not know Kifeas, I can only guess. However, it was the proper thing to do, the moral thing to do, if you like. Of course you probably think that Turkey would have invaded anyway. You believe in kismet I suppose.

[Daemon]

The fact is what Makariakoi and Grivikoi (mostly Makariakoi) are dickheads, so why someone have to kill his time with this Kifeas thing?

At 74 it was not an easy decision but Makatios did a lot of crimes before of that. Of course in a situation where the gun is pointing your wife and your children’s and you put above them your complex your ego and your megalomania you must at least stop pretending the great one. Makarios in fact was a piece of shit but Makariakoi are even worst, they still accusing Clerides(he was a president at those days) as a traitor because he suggested accepting that offer even if he will have to suicide and sacrifice him self for the good of his country. What the fuck!!! the man was a war hero (he fought the nazi and he survived in Nazi prisons for many years) not a sick gay priest that was sacrificing his people because of his sickness. The most ridiculous from all of this shit of the Makarios bustards is what they keep accusing Clerides for that because is obvious what they are fagots.

[michalis5354]

Daemon

The most ridiculous from all of this shit of the Makarios bustards is what they keep accusing Clerides for that because is obvious what they are fagots

It is this hypocricy that drives me mad . They accuse Klerides that have incorporated elemenst of the EOKA B group and the same people were the first to Hold the Greek flag and discrimate against the Zurich agreements. It is the Zurich agreements that have saved the repubilc from the biggest nightmare of all ENOSIS. If that was materialised then the Cyprus would had been a poor rock in the middle east no different to crete and Rhodes. You have potrayed this hypocricy very well.

[Daemon]

Clerides said about that in his books, he gave them a roof to be able to control them, he was always against EOKA B and he didn’t accepted to be their president and he had nothing to do with the coop. Of course when they did Akritas (where actually they bring division) everything was fine as long they could bullshiting the foreigners while they had the TC’s like lepers in the enclaves. And of course when they was beating up and killing EOKA members and not only (they were beating up everyone who disagreed with Makarios even in small issues) when they made their Taliban-fagot government it was a divine work. These persons are disgusting fagots and maybe is a good thing that they elected Christofias because Akel have a position about the 63 and Akritas and he may open the issue at a right time like Christofias already said. It will be very funny. Clerides said in his book about our fault at 63 (even if he had also a small part in Akritas, the person have balls, how the dickless pseudopatriot fagots could respect him?) and Christofias in the debate already rejected our propaganda about the tourkantrasia and they are so burned human trash that they voted him and now that I’m thinking clearly (now that I see Christofias in the government and not the DIKO-EDEK and EVROKOlous fagots) maybe this was the best thing that could happen to all of us.

Of course if I hear this bullshits from piratis and GR (I do not say Kifeas because he have more brains in his own dickhead way) is funny because they are retarded and someone could feel sorry for them, but when there are politicians(I just remembered Koutalianos of EDEK) that are saying this bullshits is obvious what the ass of this fagots is asking badly for our dick.

The good news about DIKO is what the Kiprianikoi (that are much better) will kick out TPap trash and maybe they have a hope to become something more than a smelly fart.

In EDEK and evrokolous simply there is no hope, a party created from this ridiculous “philosopher” (peosopher with the Greek meaning of peos) Lissaridis, simple does not have one a million to be something better than a fart (something like EVROKO in a little better version).

[Viewpoint]

Well I just watched the the speech Christofias made after the meeting between himself and Mr Talat. Sounds positive, but was a speech of no essence really. They do look good together although Mr Talat appeared a bit anxious looking at his body language.

Okay boys we're couting on you.

Does it really matter what they looked like? but to me president Talat looked more relaxed and more confident and his command of the English Language was far better than that of the GC leader, who I am starting to admire for his bold move and positive stance, well done Christofias for showing the world that Papadop was the problem for the last 4 years.

[Bananiot]

Only recently did Christofias start to learn English and in view of this he must not be treated very harsh. Obviously, he understands much more than he speaks. Another thing that should be noted is that Anastasiades and Kasoulides are fully behind him in his bold moves and this is something we have not seen in Cyprus in the past. May be this country is coming to age at last.

[michalis5354]

Daemon

Clerides said about that in his books, he gave them a roof to be able to control them, he was always against EOKA B and he didn’t accepted to be their president and he had nothing to do with the coop. Of course when they did Akritas (where actually they bring division) everything was fine as long they could bullshiting the foreign

I agree with you again. This was to unite people at a difficult time of the Cyprus history. And even If he had EOKA B members in his party why no one had been brought to Justice by the state when Kyprianou or Papadopoulos was in power after so many evidences? If they have not been brought to justice then they are innocent dont we all agree on this?

EDEK and Evroko is the bigest joke for me . I can say also DIKO but with Karoyan as a leader maybe this party has more hope.

[Get Real!]

Daemon

Clerides said about that in his books, he gave them a roof to be able to control them, he was always against EOKA B and he didn’t accepted to be their president and he had nothing to do with the coop. Of course when they did Akritas (where actually they bring division) everything was fine as long they could bullshiting the foreign

I agree with you again. This was to unite people at a difficult time of the Cyprus history. And even If he had EOKA B members in his party why no one had been brought to Justice by the state when Kyprianou or Papadopoulos was in power after so many evidences? If they have not been brought to justice then they are innocent dont we all agree on this?

EDEK and Evroko is the bigest joke for me . I can say also DIKO but with Karoyan as a leader maybe this party has more hope.

I see you have made a new friend… great! Now the two of you can talk all about how the Jehovah Witnesses got rooted by the Mameluke princess who was related to the Romanovs who were at war with the Ostragoths…

[michalis5354]

GR no criticism on my writing . I accept any constructive critisism by the way.

[Piratis]

May be for the same reason we refused to accept functional federation prior to 1974 or to implement the provisions of the 1959 Agreements regarding the municipalities prior to 1963.

What do you do when you lose your clout Piratis? Do you think world politics is a game of chess wher you start or abandon the game at will?

Of coursed we refused because we believe in a true democracy as it exists in all other countries in the world, and not what a minority and some outsiders wanted to impose on us to serve their own interests.

My question is if the Turks think that democracy should be different than the way we understand it and the way it is applied in the rest of the word, and instead of equality among citizens to have some "political equality" between the ethnic groups that make up a state, then why didn't they apply this kind of democracy in Turkey and the "trnc"? Why don't the Kurds in Turkey have "political equality", and why don't the GCs in the "trnc" have it?

This is case of war Bananiot. They are our enemies and they are trying to take away our rights and gain on our loss. Their demands are totally unjustified and have nothing to do with democracy or any other accepted principle, and everything to do with the "we have the big guns and we will force what we want on you".
Some, like you, might capitulate. I will not. Because the most important thing in life is decency.