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Are we burying the skeletons, at last?

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby shahmaran » Thu Mar 20, 2008 5:32 pm

Well sorry to say Pantheman, but couldnt your personal "critique" about Turkey also affect what you think you know about Turkeys real intentions towards Cyprus, therefore, of what you think you know about what Talats position and authority really is or might be?

You cant seriously think that all TC's are blind and youre not. Or are you?

Maybe the fact that Turkey does not want to even hear it from you is a good thing since it means you HAVE to talk to us now, as opposed to the times when you didnt even want to hear it from us :)
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Postby denizaksulu » Thu Mar 20, 2008 5:33 pm

pantheman wrote:personally, Talat is the wrong person for Christofias to be talking for a solution the Cyprob.

He should be talking directly to the boss, Turkey. Talat has no clout, he is just a middleman with no real say.

Sorry TC community, but you know what I am saying is true. The hand that feeds you is Turkey and therefore will dictate what gets said and done.

IMHO, its a waste of the president Christofias time to be talking to a puppet, we need to be talking to the real deal, Turkey.

Bring in General bayuk.... (sorry about spelling I can never get his name right, but you know who I mean) and lets talk business with him. He is the one who has the clout. Erdrogan and his other clowns don't even come close to the general.

So, when shall I make the appointment for????

Someone want to call the general up????



Oh God. Why do I agree with you. We want the organ grinders, ofcourse.(whoever they may be)
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Postby eracles » Thu Mar 20, 2008 5:37 pm

my view is that it is essential for the two leaders (i am simply talking about communities here) to talk to each other as much as possible.
i think pantheman is right to an extent that talat probably has to go to ankara and make sure his position is OK with Ankara,.
But dialogue is good, how can you talk about reunifying when we don't spend any time together at a high level???
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Re: Are we burying the skeletons, at last?

Postby Get Real! » Thu Mar 20, 2008 6:28 pm

Bananiot wrote:Christofias has gained my appreciation with this bold move. If Talat can be equally compromising then perhaps we may get a last shot at solving this long-lasting dispute in the best possible manner.

You'll be waiting a long time fool...
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Postby pantheman » Thu Mar 20, 2008 6:44 pm

shahmaran wrote:Well sorry to say Pantheman, but couldnt your personal "critique" about Turkey also affect what you think you know about Turkeys real intentions towards Cyprus, therefore, of what you think you know about what Talats position and authority really is or might be?

You cant seriously think that all TC's are blind and youre not. Or are you?

Maybe the fact that Turkey does not want to even hear it from you is a good thing since it means you HAVE to talk to us now, as opposed to the times when you didnt even want to hear it from us :)


Sorry, shah, but your first paragraph just lost me, but I think I may know what you think I may know about what Turkeys intentions are possibly that what talat thinks. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Thats how is sound to me mate, anyway moving on.

Let me ask you then, or any other TC here this question.

Is it up to Talat what solution is agreed? or is it up to Tukey?

seriously, now, is he in a position to call the shots. No offence like but my undertsanding is that Turkey is the one to make the deal.

Please explain to me if I am wrong and why.

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Postby shahmaran » Thu Mar 20, 2008 6:55 pm

pantheman wrote:
shahmaran wrote:Well sorry to say Pantheman, but couldnt your personal "critique" about Turkey also affect what you think you know about Turkeys real intentions towards Cyprus, therefore, of what you think you know about what Talats position and authority really is or might be?

You cant seriously think that all TC's are blind and youre not. Or are you?

Maybe the fact that Turkey does not want to even hear it from you is a good thing since it means you HAVE to talk to us now, as opposed to the times when you didnt even want to hear it from us :)


Sorry, shah, but your first paragraph just lost me, but I think I may know what you think I may know about what Turkeys intentions are possibly that what talat thinks. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Thats how is sound to me mate, anyway moving on.

Let me ask you then, or any other TC here this question.

Is it up to Talat what solution is agreed? or is it up to Tukey?

seriously, now, is he in a position to call the shots. No offence like but my undertsanding is that Turkey is the one to make the deal.

Please explain to me if I am wrong and why.

Cheers



Well then let me try and simplify it down for you Pantheman because i didnt realise your comprehension of English was so limited.

Basically I'm asking you, if you don't think that your extreme prejudiced attitude towards Turkey might cloud your judgement about what Turkey REALLY wants to do with Cyprus and about how much authority Talat has.

Does that sound more digestible?

Basically even tho Turkey has a lot of authority on the matter, their aim might not be as sinister as you might like it to be.
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Postby pantheman » Thu Mar 20, 2008 7:13 pm

shahmaran wrote:
pantheman wrote:
shahmaran wrote:Well sorry to say Pantheman, but couldnt your personal "critique" about Turkey also affect what you think you know about Turkeys real intentions towards Cyprus, therefore, of what you think you know about what Talats position and authority really is or might be?

You cant seriously think that all TC's are blind and youre not. Or are you?

Maybe the fact that Turkey does not want to even hear it from you is a good thing since it means you HAVE to talk to us now, as opposed to the times when you didnt even want to hear it from us :)


Sorry, shah, but your first paragraph just lost me, but I think I may know what you think I may know about what Turkeys intentions are possibly that what talat thinks. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Thats how is sound to me mate, anyway moving on.

Let me ask you then, or any other TC here this question.

Is it up to Talat what solution is agreed? or is it up to Tukey?

seriously, now, is he in a position to call the shots. No offence like but my undertsanding is that Turkey is the one to make the deal.

Please explain to me if I am wrong and why.

Cheers



Well then let me try and simplify it down for you Pantheman because i didnt realise your comprehension of English was so limited.

Basically I'm asking you, if you don't think that your extreme prejudiced attitude towards Turkey might cloud your judgement about what Turkey REALLY wants to do with Cyprus and about how much authority Talat has.

Does that sound more digestible?

Basically even tho Turkey has a lot of authority on the matter, their aim might not be as sinister as you might like it to be.


OK, let me make this simple for you, because it is you who is not understanding.

I asked you a question, you gave me a lecture.

Here it is again in a simple form, who is in charge, Turkey or Talat?

As for turkys aim for Cyprus, prejudice or not, are not for the good of cyprus, but for the good of Turkey, please dont insult my intelligence about what Turkys real agenda is. The world knows what that is.

Just answer my question, please.
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Postby shahmaran » Thu Mar 20, 2008 7:19 pm

I didnt give you a lecture, I asked you a genuine question first, you didnt understand it so i asked you again in a more direct way.

You clearly hold seriously innaccurate views of Turkey and you base everything else on this belief, not everyone shares your views, not even the Turks themselves, but yet again you seem to think you (plus "the world" apparently) can see the light, while we are blind.

I clearly dont share your views or i wouldnt be asking would I? :roll:
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Postby halil » Thu Mar 20, 2008 7:20 pm

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we never denied. we always expressed that both sides are quilty. there is a always other side of the coin .

we are against the idea that Cyprus problem started at 74.



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Postby Bananiot » Thu Mar 20, 2008 8:29 pm

I will be waiting for as long as it takes GR. I presume all fools will be doing the same thing, including you. I will change my mind when you strap yourself with explosives and blow yourself to peaces along with a busload of Turkish Cypriot children. In the meantime, your armchair heroics are devastating me.
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