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[Nurgary]

I am a Brit who has lived and worked for many years on both sides of the Border.

What i want is clearly referenced documents that clearly indicate what is being posted. Now we all know if Lobby for Cyprus want to post stuff on there webside they should as is the normal indicated reference documents otherwise anything and everything they post will be viewed as highly suspect.

[Oracle]

I am a Brit who has lived and worked for many years on both sides of the Border.

What i want is clearly referenced documents that clearly indicate what is being posted. Now we all know if Lobby for Cyprus want to post stuff on there webside they should as is the normal indicated reference documents otherwise anything and everything they post will be viewed as highly suspect.

So you view anything Cypriot with suspicion ... well then why should we not view anything "British" with suspicion? ...

After all the RoC never invaded, exploited or enslaved the UK ... yet that is precisely what the UK did to Cyprus...

[denizaksulu]

Turkey asked to invade Cyprus through the bases ... the Brits realised this meant they wanted to capture the whole island and refused them the use of the bases.

You disagree with GR?

[yiannisP]

Your total problem has been created by the british......let's take a look at wherever these assholes set foot on ground. Hong-kong....Israel was created by the british.....falklands.....Kuwait.....etc. wherever these bastards set foot there are troubles. So if you are educated (which I doubt looking at your postings) have a look at it from a different view and try to approach it with a different mentallity. Stop generalizing! GC's and TC's have been living together for 100's of years without problems untill your so called guarator countries start interfering.

I largely agree with this. Foreign powers such as the US and Britain use 'divide and conquer' techniques on foreign nations to get what they want and we are so stupid that we turn on each other! This then adds legitimacy to their corrupt reasons for getting involved such as 'longstanding ethnic tensions'. A few reports on the BBC and tuts at our inability to get along and they roll onto the next country!

We need an independent Cyrpus with no occupation or discrimination. If you try and eliminate the ill feeling in your heart against other people then it leaves you less vulnerable to the manipulations of foreign powers. This is what many of us fail to realise judging by the many derogatory comments I see on this forum. Peace to TCs and GCs and everyone else.

[denizaksulu]

Your total problem has been created by the british......let's take a look at wherever these assholes set foot on ground. Hong-kong....Israel was created by the british.....falklands.....Kuwait.....etc. wherever these bastards set foot there are troubles. So if you are educated (which I doubt looking at your postings) have a look at it from a different view and try to approach it with a different mentallity. Stop generalizing! GC's and TC's have been living together for 100's of years without problems untill your so called guarator countries start interfering.

I largely agree with this. Foreign powers such as the US and Britain use 'divide and conquer' techniques on foreign nations to get what they want and we are so stupid that we turn on each other! This then adds legitimacy to their corrupt reasons for getting involved such as 'longstanding ethnic tensions'. A few reports on the BBC and tuts at our inability to get along and they roll onto the next country!

We need an independent Cyrpus with no occupation or discrimination. If you try and eliminate the ill feeling in your heart against other people then it leaves you less vulnerable to the manipulations of foreign powers. This is what many of us fail to realise judging by the many derogatory comments I see on this forum. Peace to TCs and GCs and everyone else.

Thank you for a sensible comment YiannisP and welcome to the Cyprus Forum.

[bill cobbett]

Your total problem has been created by the british......let's take a look at wherever these assholes set foot on ground. Hong-kong....Israel was created by the british.....falklands.....Kuwait.....etc. wherever these bastards set foot there are troubles. So if you are educated (which I doubt looking at your postings) have a look at it from a different view and try to approach it with a different mentallity. Stop generalizing! GC's and TC's have been living together for 100's of years without problems untill your so called guarator countries start interfering.

I largely agree with this. Foreign powers such as the US and Britain use 'divide and conquer' techniques on foreign nations to get what they want and we are so stupid that we turn on each other! This then adds legitimacy to their corrupt reasons for getting involved such as 'longstanding ethnic tensions'. A few reports on the BBC and tuts at our inability to get along and they roll onto the next country!

We need an independent Cyrpus with no occupation or discrimination. If you try and eliminate the ill feeling in your heart against other people then it leaves you less vulnerable to the manipulations of foreign powers. This is what many of us fail to realise judging by the many derogatory comments I see on this forum. Peace to TCs and GCs and everyone else.

Thank you for a sensible comment YiannisP and welcome to the Cyprus Forum.

Yes indeed seconded and welcome. But any chance of removing the references to "gcs" and "tcs" - language of the divisionists, partitionists, the former colonial power and the BBC ? Cypriots is a good word.

[Viewpoint]

Hold on there who are to speak on behalf of us? the majority still prefer to be referred to as Turkish and Greek Cypriots.

[utu]

Setting himself up for being shot?????? What world are you living in? Do you think a flag is more important then a human being? Then you are way out of this fucking world. Arrest the guy and sentence him for not respecting ok.....but shoot him????? Or is beating someone to death with a piece of wood also legitimit. What kinf of barbarian are you?

Wallace, I think Expatkiwi was trying to tell you that since National Flags are regarded as strong symbols to their peoples, then they are not going to take an attack on their flag lightly. The term 'vexillidolotry' means a devout reverence/idolation for a flag, and a lot of countries have severe penalties for illegal use of their national flag, descecration of their national flag, and the use of banned flags. In that context, the Turkish Cypriots there at that particular incident saw a people that they have been told have tried to eradicate them in the past attempt to invade their territory, and one of those 'invaders' attempting to tear down the symbol of that territory. Now, do I think that the shooting was justified? No, I don't. But whenever symbols of a people are attacked by those people's perceived enemies, then common sense takes a back seat to retribution. Put yourself in their shoes, Wallace, or instead imagine a mob of Turkish Cypriots storming south of the Green Line and attacking RoCy and Greek flags....

[zan]

On 14 August, despite the fact that talks were still being held in Geneva and just as agreement was about to be reached, the Turkish army mounted a second full-scale offensive, thereby belying Turkey's original pretext that it was invading in order to restore constitutional order, in view of the fact that constitutional order had already been restored.

And at the same time the GCs were reinforcing their lines.......

[zan]

Why didn't they occupie the SBA's?

It was not planned, I suppose. They did enter the area and a new battle front nearly opened. They pulled back in the nick of time when they realised where they were. I think it was the momentum of the push. No one opposing them till they saw the Union Jack and the Gurkhas..

It was bloody obvious, the British were in it with them. The dozy turks went there in error. If they had tried it on then the British would have HAD to get involved, but they only wanted the be the stirrers of the conflict, not to actually get involved.

Its a bit of a coincidence, don't you think that they invasion stopped at the same profile as the road that leads from dhekelia - St Nick. This is "British territory" and we can't have that can we ????

If they were in it together, then they would have allowed the tanks free passage to Larnaca. They went according to pre-drawn plans. Its easy to say they were in it together after the fact.

Deniz, come on, you know what happened right? This was part of the Divide and Rule tactic, please don't insult our intelligence on this. Even the British Government themselves have admitted this, just read the archives.

If Britain really wanted to they could have prevented this, you know that, but they chose to bury their heads and let the rotweiler lose so that they could retain their own interests.

Even Kissengers words to your then prime minister were, "you take the island and we'll get yoyu a solution" thats how sure he was. This sort of operation does not just fall out of the sky, the UK and US have invested heavily in intelligence and they were not going to get caught with their pants down.

No sir, this was premeditaed, preplanned and executed with the full knowledge of the UK and US governments. Simple, anything else is pure BS.

what wee we doing at the time Panth......They just simply helped things along...We created the mess in the first place.