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Trust, suspicion, and Stereotyping

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Oracle » Fri Mar 21, 2008 3:17 pm

wallace wrote:Nice words Paphitis!!! Ledra will open by the end of this month. Small step but it will help.


Why?... is that the EXIT the Turkish troops are going to use .... :roll:
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Postby Paphitis » Fri Mar 21, 2008 3:37 pm

Oracle wrote:
wallace wrote:Nice words Paphitis!!! Ledra will open by the end of this month. Small step but it will help.


Why?... is that the EXIT the Turkish troops are going to use .... :roll:


No. But it build trust between TCs and GCs. A small step in the right direction.
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Postby Paphitis » Fri Mar 21, 2008 3:37 pm

Sorry. Double post.
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Postby Filitsa » Fri Mar 21, 2008 3:39 pm

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Nikitas wrote:"Stereotyping on both sides has been rampant, and I have to admit, I have been guilty of this as well. I personally feel that Greeks and Greek Cypriots cannot be trusted to keep their word given to the Turkish populace, and that Greeks simply regard Turks as inferior savages."

This is one of the most offensice posts ever on this forum. When have you seen stereotyping in here, even by people like Big Al who tends to lose his cool more easily than the rest of us, or any expression that the TCs are inferior savages of the GCs liars. as a generalisation? There have been personal attacks but never a racial insult that I can recall. The only time that has happened has been by GCs against GCs or Greeks.



And I thought that you were one of the smarter ones on this forum, Nikitas. Looks like I badly misjudged you. RACE is the dominant issue here: Greek vs Turk. Just read Oracle's posts...

The moral of the story is: without racial tolerance, there is not going to be any national reconciliation. If you want to prove me wrong, then start treating Turkish Cypriots as human beings.


Expatkiwi, tolerance is insufficient because it presumes superiority, which is a large part of the problem to begin with.
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Postby Kikapu » Fri Mar 21, 2008 4:01 pm

Expatkiwi is one of the most Morally Corrupted persons here on the forum, and he is now trying to give others advice on Morality, Racism and Tolerance. :lol:

By the way Expatkiwi, I have been meaning to ask you. Where does/did your parents come from (what country).???
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Postby Kifeas » Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:53 pm

Kikapu wrote:Expatkiwi is one of the most Morally Corrupted persons here on the forum, and he is now trying to give others advice on Morality, Racism and Tolerance. :lol:

By the way Expatkiwi, I have been meaning to ask you. Where does/did your parents come from (what country).???


kikapu, I can't believe you haven't figured out yet that this particular clown is of Turkish origin. No one non-Turk would have been for so long, so consistently one-sided and biased in favor of the most arrogant, opportunistic and nationalistic Turkish views on Cyprus!
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Postby Kikapu » Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:35 pm

Kifeas wrote:
Kikapu wrote:Expatkiwi is one of the most Morally Corrupted persons here on the forum, and he is now trying to give others advice on Morality, Racism and Tolerance. :lol:

By the way Expatkiwi, I have been meaning to ask you. Where does/did your parents come from (what country).???


kikapu, I can't believe you haven't figured out yet that this particular clown is of Turkish origin. No one non-Turk would have been for so long, so consistently one-sided and biased in favor of the most arrogant, opportunistic and nationalistic Turkish views on Cyprus!


Kifeas,

I usually cannot take any one's personal views very seriously if they do not reveal their ethnicity. As far as I know, Expatkiwi has refused to come forward, just as CopperLine has. I can read in what they write on certain issues and take it at face value and thank them for it, but when it comes to their personal views on Cyprus and Cypriots in general, they have zero value to me. There was a time when VP refused to disclose as to where he was born, and until he was brave enough to disclose it, most of his posts were deemed not trustworthy.

One can reveal their ethnicity and continue to defend the actions of their community, rights and wrongs, but to hide from it, has to be the most cowardly thing to do. One thing we know for sure about Expatkiwi is, that he is "pen-pals" with Rauf Denktash by his own admission, so in essence, he is nothing more than a mouth piece for Denktash. He is morally corrupted, because by changing information on Wikipedia regarding land size belonging to TC's and GC's and then use that as basis for his argument. Sounds more like a psychopath who commits a crime, then returns to the scene of the crime to be a witness and give fake tales to the police. Since he won't tell us what he is, perhaps he would respect his parents birthplaces and tell us as to where they are from, so that it will be easier to at least make his posts trustworthy as to where his "passion" is coming from, even if it means I may disagree with it.
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Postby Kifeas » Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:44 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Kifeas wrote:
Kikapu wrote:Expatkiwi is one of the most Morally Corrupted persons here on the forum, and he is now trying to give others advice on Morality, Racism and Tolerance. :lol:

By the way Expatkiwi, I have been meaning to ask you. Where does/did your parents come from (what country).???


kikapu, I can't believe you haven't figured out yet that this particular clown is of Turkish origin. No one non-Turk would have been for so long, so consistently one-sided and biased in favor of the most arrogant, opportunistic and nationalistic Turkish views on Cyprus!


Kifeas,

I usually cannot take any one's personal views very seriously if they do not reveal their ethnicity. As far as I know, Expatkiwi has refused to come forward, just as CopperLine has. I can read in what they write on certain issues and take it at face value and thank them for it, but when it comes to their personal views on Cyprus and Cypriots in general, they have zero value to me. There was a time when VP refused to disclose as to where he was born, and until he was brave enough to disclose it, most of his posts were deemed not trustworthy.

One can reveal their ethnicity and continue to defend the actions of their community, rights and wrongs, but to hide from it, has to be the most cowardly thing to do. One thing we know for sure about Expatkiwi is, that he is "pen-pals" with Rauf Denktash by his own admission, so in essence, he is nothing more than a mouth piece for Denktash. He is morally corrupted, because by changing information on Wikipedia regarding land size belonging to TC's and GC's and then use that as basis for his argument. Sounds more like a psychopath who commits a crime, then returns to the scene of the crime to be a witness and give fake tales to the police. Since he won't tell us what he is, perhaps he would respect his parents birthplaces and tell us as to where they are from, so that it will be easier to at least make his posts trustworthy as to where his "passion" is coming from, even if it means I may disagree with it.


I fully agree with your entire assessment!

That is precisely why I also regard and called him a clown! :wink:
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Postby Kikapu » Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:54 pm

Kifeas wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Kifeas wrote:
Kikapu wrote:Expatkiwi is one of the most Morally Corrupted persons here on the forum, and he is now trying to give others advice on Morality, Racism and Tolerance. :lol:

By the way Expatkiwi, I have been meaning to ask you. Where does/did your parents come from (what country).???


kikapu, I can't believe you haven't figured out yet that this particular clown is of Turkish origin. No one non-Turk would have been for so long, so consistently one-sided and biased in favor of the most arrogant, opportunistic and nationalistic Turkish views on Cyprus!


Kifeas,

I usually cannot take any one's personal views very seriously if they do not reveal their ethnicity. As far as I know, Expatkiwi has refused to come forward, just as CopperLine has. I can read in what they write on certain issues and take it at face value and thank them for it, but when it comes to their personal views on Cyprus and Cypriots in general, they have zero value to me. There was a time when VP refused to disclose as to where he was born, and until he was brave enough to disclose it, most of his posts were deemed not trustworthy.

One can reveal their ethnicity and continue to defend the actions of their community, rights and wrongs, but to hide from it, has to be the most cowardly thing to do. One thing we know for sure about Expatkiwi is, that he is "pen-pals" with Rauf Denktash by his own admission, so in essence, he is nothing more than a mouth piece for Denktash. He is morally corrupted, because by changing information on Wikipedia regarding land size belonging to TC's and GC's and then use that as basis for his argument. Sounds more like a psychopath who commits a crime, then returns to the scene of the crime to be a witness and give fake tales to the police. Since he won't tell us what he is, perhaps he would respect his parents birthplaces and tell us as to where they are from, so that it will be easier to at least make his posts trustworthy as to where his "passion" is coming from, even if it means I may disagree with it.


I fully agree with your entire assessment!

That is precisely why I also regard and called him a clown! :wink:


Well, what makes Expatkiwi a clown is the people he associates with, and in his case, they are with Denktash and Eric Dayi.!!!

Can't wait to find out who else with "outstanding backgrounds" are his friends.!!

One is judged from the company they keep.!!!
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Postby Expatkiwi » Sat Mar 22, 2008 12:08 am

Kikapu wrote:Expatkiwi is one of the most Morally Corrupted persons here on the forum, and he is now trying to give others advice on Morality, Racism and Tolerance. :lol:

By the way Expatkiwi, I have been meaning to ask you. Where does/did your parents come from (what country).???


My family's origins are my own business, Kikapu. And you have one hell of a nerve to say that I am 'morally corrupted'. I don't go around esposuing a view that its okay for Greeks to harass, expel, and kill Turks. My only 'crime' (in your view) is that I espouse partition as the only means to ensure peace between the communities. Really 'corruptible', isn't it, trying to say "lets keep them apart so that they don't kill each other'...?

Oh, and by the way, Kifeas, I am not Turkish. My ancestery has no Turkish blood. I just happen to think that the Turkish Cypriots never got a fair shake from their Greek Cypriot compatriots.... Yuo should be the one wearing the clown suit.
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