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Kikapu

VP,

And I was hoping to be invited along with Miltiades for a lovely Cypriot home cooking at your house as soon as peace deal is signed to celebrate a new beginning for Cyprus.

Now you made me lose my apetite after your above post.

Looks like Miltiades and me will be eating alone afterall.

You are right but Im sure it doesnt mean much and look on the bright side you have each other you dont me.

Just a little reminder VP, that you do not own the land that the "TRNC" sits on, so do not assume you will be granted that land to have your "new country" through partition and be recognised and be in the EU. The self declared Independence in 1984 has not even allowed you to play a friendly football match with a crap team like Luton Town. If that is your idea of independence, begging everyone to open their doors to you diplomatically, rather than be a proud nation as others in the West, just because you do not want to live in the 21st century under True Democracy.

1983 actually thats how TC you are, we will hold onto 37% and go about our lives while you go about yours. Even with all its faults the TCs prefer the TRNC to accepting wat you have in store for us a minority in a GC state if thats a proud nation in the 21st century give me isoaltion any day, when will you realize thats how strong we feel.

My country has always been and always will be Cyprus, and the part that your house sits on, is still part of my country. You can divide yourself from the land if you want, but you have no right or ability to divide me from my country.

If it makes you happy then go ahead doesnt change the reality in front of you, you couldnt even visit 37% of "your country".

[Get Real!]

We have 37% and the GCs have 63% of our country and if what I say will come to fruition partition can be agreed for return for land the 29% is imo reasonable as a certain % of GCs will want to claim their properties in the TRNC.

Hmm, I'm prepared to have a look at that...

In 1974 you owed 12.3% so if you take that away from 29% that leaves a miniscule 16.7% of stolen land... yeah I'm sure the GC owners will be alright with that!

You may no feel that way but Cyprus will always be unique and special to me.

You can say that again! It's the only place on earth where the most ridiculous proposals have been made with the only approval coming from Candid Camera...

[Kikapu]

Kikapu

VP,

And I was hoping to be invited along with Miltiades for a lovely Cypriot home cooking at your house as soon as peace deal is signed to celebrate a new beginning for Cyprus.

Now you made me lose my apetite after your above post.

Looks like Miltiades and me will be eating alone afterall.

You are right but Im sure it doesnt mean much and look on the bright side you have each other you dont me.

Just a little reminder VP, that you do not own the land that the "TRNC" sits on, so do not assume you will be granted that land to have your "new country" through partition and be recognised and be in the EU. The self declared Independence in 1984 has not even allowed you to play a friendly football match with a crap team like Luton Town. If that is your idea of independence, begging everyone to open their doors to you diplomatically, rather than be a proud nation as others in the West, just because you do not want to live in the 21st century under True Democracy.

1983 actually thats how TC you are, we will hold onto 37% and go about our lives while you go about yours. Even with all its faults the TCs prefer the TRNC to accepting wat you have in store for us a minority in a GC state if thats a proud nation in the 21st century give me isoaltion any day, when will you realize thats how strong we feel.

My country has always been and always will be Cyprus, and the part that your house sits on, is still part of my country. You can divide yourself from the land if you want, but you have no right or ability to divide me from my country.

If it makes you happy then go ahead doesnt change the reality in front of you, you couldnt even visit 37% of "your country".

VP,

We'll talk more as things develop with the peace process VP. I don't want to fight you. I know that's what you want, to fight another TC who is a True Cypriot and you as a Partitionist who cannot relate to, other than try and claim other Cypriots land by force. That plan was working just fine for the first 30 years, until the year 2004 when the earth shook under your feet when the whole island of Cyprus was entered into the EU, and since then it has been one Political Shenanigan after another on how to undo that "damage". It's not going to work VP, so give it up. The tables has turned since 2004. All you are doing is just buying time for the tables to turn again, but the end results will be the same. The last 24 years should be enough evidence that partition has not worked for you. It's time for you to come home VP, and that home is called Cyprus.

[unitedwestand]

Kikapu

VP,

And I was hoping to be invited along with Miltiades for a lovely Cypriot home cooking at your house as soon as peace deal is signed to celebrate a new beginning for Cyprus.

Now you made me lose my apetite after your above post.

Looks like Miltiades and me will be eating alone afterall.

You are right but Im sure it doesnt mean much and look on the bright side you have each other you dont me.

Just a little reminder VP, that you do not own the land that the "TRNC" sits on, so do not assume you will be granted that land to have your "new country" through partition and be recognised and be in the EU. The self declared Independence in 1984 has not even allowed you to play a friendly football match with a crap team like Luton Town. If that is your idea of independence, begging everyone to open their doors to you diplomatically, rather than be a proud nation as others in the West, just because you do not want to live in the 21st century under True Democracy.

1983 actually thats how TC you are, we will hold onto 37% and go about our lives while you go about yours. Even with all its faults the TCs prefer the TRNC to accepting wat you have in store for us a minority in a GC state if thats a proud nation in the 21st century give me isoaltion any day, when will you realize thats how strong we feel.

My country has always been and always will be Cyprus, and the part that your house sits on, is still part of my country. You can divide yourself from the land if you want, but you have no right or ability to divide me from my country.

If it makes you happy then go ahead doesnt change the reality in front of you, you couldnt even visit 37% of "your country".

VP,

We'll talk more as things develop with the peace process VP. I don't want to fight you. I know that's what you want, to fight another TC who is a True Cypriot and you as a Partitionist who cannot relate to, other than try and claim other Cypriots land by force. That plan was working just fine for the first 30 years, until the year 2004 when the earth shook under your feet when the whole island of Cyprus was entered into the EU, and since then it has been one Political Shenanigan after another on how to undo that "damage". It's not going to work VP, so give it up. The tables has turned since 2004. All you are doing is just buying time for the tables to turn again, but the end results will be the same. The last 24 years should be enough evidence that partition has not worked for you. It's time for you to come home VP, and that home is called Cyprus.

Sorry to interrupt this but I'm a bit confused. Is Kipaku GC or TC? I can probably go back to previous posts for the answer. Somethings I read make me believe he/she is GC other times a TC. Confused.

[Kikapu]

You say you want to run your "own" state, or have an agreed partition so that you can run your "own" state (country), but your "own" state that you keep mentioning, 80% belongs to the GC's. Can you explain to me how on earth you can claim those lands to be your "own", when you only own only 20% of it. The only way you are ever going to be able to build a state on the land that you do not own 80% of it, by having a state in a True Federation. Even if the GC's wanted to sell you the whole 80% of their land so that you can have 100% of True TC land in the north, how will you pay for it.?? I do not think IOU's will be accepted.

There’s an answer to everything my friend… maybe VP was thinking of absorbing the GCs into the “TRNC” and that way he inherits the lot!

Well, if I'm not mistaken, there was a provision in the AP TC Constitution, where the GC's were not able to leave land to their heirs and can only sell their land to a TC. I'm sure similar laws would be implemented if agreed partition goes through. But good news for any other nationalities who may have lived in the North had the 2004 AP passed, because those laws that would have effected the GC's, would not have effected other nationalities. You can call it "custom made laws". I'm sure the people who wrote those laws had no idea it would be violation of one's Human and Democratic Rights of the GC's. I mean GR, who would write such a Racist laws deliberately. It had to have been a mistake.!!

[Kikapu]

Sorry to interrupt this but I'm a bit confused. Is Kipaku GC or TC? I can probably go back to previous posts for the answer. Somethings I read make me believe he/she is GC other times a TC. Confused.

It all depends who you want to believe. Now, the partitionist and the Fascist are not use to hearing straight talk from a TC against the doings of the "TRNC's government", so therefore, it is convenient to label him as a GC, because only then what KIKAPU says will make sense. After all, no TC can possible disagree with everything that the "TRNC" does. No TC wants to unite with the GC's. No TC wants to be part of Cyprus. No TC wants to have anything to do with the GC's, so therefore, KIKAPU can only be a GC. A TC can only want a Partition, or a Racist laws such as "separate but equal" with undemocratic laws with everything shared down the middle, 50-50. No TC can possible accept True Democracy in this day and age. It is only the 21st Century for cry'n out loud. We should wait until the 25th Century before we are ready for True Democracy, so that's why KIKAPU cannot be a TC.

[unitedwestand]

Sorry to interrupt this but I'm a bit confused. Is Kipaku GC or TC? I can probably go back to previous posts for the answer. Somethings I read make me believe he/she is GC other times a TC. Confused.

It all depends who you want to believe. Now, the partitionist and the Fascist are not use to hearing straight talk from a TC against the doings of the "TRNC's government", so therefore, it is convenient to label him as a GC, because only then what KIKAPU says will make sense. After all, no TC can possible disagree with everything that the "TRNC" does. No TC wants to unite with the GC's. No TC wants to be part of Cyprus. No TC wants to have anything to do with the GC's, so therefore, KIKAPU can only be a GC. A TC can only want a Partition, or a Racist laws such as "separate but equal" with undemocratic laws with everything shared down the middle, 50-50. No TC can possible accept True Democracy in this day and age. It is only the 21st Century for cry'n out loud. We should wait until the 25th Century before we are ready for True Democracy, so that's why KIKAPU cannot be a TC.

Thank you Kikapu. Sorry I got your name wrong on previous post. I appreciate your explanation and wish you, VP and the rest of the Cypriots, (GC and TC) the best for the future.

Our country and its people are beautiful, lets all make the best of it.

UnitedWeStand.

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Kikapu

VP,

And I was hoping to be invited along with Miltiades for a lovely Cypriot home cooking at your house as soon as peace deal is signed to celebrate a new beginning for Cyprus.

Now you made me lose my apetite after your above post.

Looks like Miltiades and me will be eating alone afterall.

You are right but Im sure it doesnt mean much and look on the bright side you have each other you dont me.

Just a little reminder VP, that you do not own the land that the "TRNC" sits on, so do not assume you will be granted that land to have your "new country" through partition and be recognised and be in the EU. The self declared Independence in 1984 has not even allowed you to play a friendly football match with a crap team like Luton Town. If that is your idea of independence, begging everyone to open their doors to you diplomatically, rather than be a proud nation as others in the West, just because you do not want to live in the 21st century under True Democracy.

1983 actually thats how TC you are, we will hold onto 37% and go about our lives while you go about yours. Even with all its faults the TCs prefer the TRNC to accepting wat you have in store for us a minority in a GC state if thats a proud nation in the 21st century give me isoaltion any day, when will you realize thats how strong we feel.

My country has always been and always will be Cyprus, and the part that your house sits on, is still part of my country. You can divide yourself from the land if you want, but you have no right or ability to divide me from my country.

If it makes you happy then go ahead doesnt change the reality in front of you, you couldnt even visit 37% of "your country".

VP,

We'll talk more as things develop with the peace process VP. I don't want to fight you. I know that's what you want, to fight another TC who is a True Cypriot and you as a Partitionist who cannot relate to, other than try and claim other Cypriots land by force. That plan was working just fine for the first 30 years, until the year 2004 when the earth shook under your feet when the whole island of Cyprus was entered into the EU, and since then it has been one Political Shenanigan after another on how to undo that "damage". It's not going to work VP, so give it up. The tables has turned since 2004. All you are doing is just buying time for the tables to turn again, but the end results will be the same. The last 24 years should be enough evidence that partition has not worked for you. It's time for you to come home VP, and that home is called Cyprus.

Sorry to interrupt this but I'm a bit confused. Is Kipaku GC or TC? I can probably go back to previous posts for the answer. Somethings I read make me believe he/she is GC other times a TC. Confused.

Thank you for proving my point 100%

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Sorry to interrupt this but I'm a bit confused. Is Kipaku GC or TC? I can probably go back to previous posts for the answer. Somethings I read make me believe he/she is GC other times a TC. Confused.

It all depends who you want to believe. Now, the partitionist and the Fascist are not use to hearing straight talk from a TC against the doings of the "TRNC's government", so therefore, it is convenient to label him as a GC, because only then what KIKAPU says will make sense. After all, no TC can possible disagree with everything that the "TRNC" does. No TC wants to unite with the GC's. No TC wants to be part of Cyprus. No TC wants to have anything to do with the GC's, so therefore, KIKAPU can only be a GC. A TC can only want a Partition, or a Racist laws such as "separate but equal" with undemocratic laws with everything shared down the middle, 50-50. No TC can possible accept True Democracy in this day and age. It is only the 21st Century for cry'n out loud. We should wait until the 25th Century before we are ready for True Democracy, so that's why KIKAPU cannot be a TC.

It doesnt matter what you say or put forward as an excuse there are many TCs who want union like Birkibrisli but noway is he like you he has stated a viewpoint where he argues points from both sides and displays no hate for all things Turkish. I have tried to point out that you are 100% on the side of GCs and therefore 100% against us the real TCs.

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Kikapu

VP,

And I was hoping to be invited along with Miltiades for a lovely Cypriot home cooking at your house as soon as peace deal is signed to celebrate a new beginning for Cyprus.

Now you made me lose my apetite after your above post.

Looks like Miltiades and me will be eating alone afterall.

You are right but Im sure it doesnt mean much and look on the bright side you have each other you dont me.

Just a little reminder VP, that you do not own the land that the "TRNC" sits on, so do not assume you will be granted that land to have your "new country" through partition and be recognised and be in the EU. The self declared Independence in 1984 has not even allowed you to play a friendly football match with a crap team like Luton Town. If that is your idea of independence, begging everyone to open their doors to you diplomatically, rather than be a proud nation as others in the West, just because you do not want to live in the 21st century under True Democracy.

1983 actually thats how TC you are, we will hold onto 37% and go about our lives while you go about yours. Even with all its faults the TCs prefer the TRNC to accepting wat you have in store for us a minority in a GC state if thats a proud nation in the 21st century give me isoaltion any day, when will you realize thats how strong we feel.

My country has always been and always will be Cyprus, and the part that your house sits on, is still part of my country. You can divide yourself from the land if you want, but you have no right or ability to divide me from my country.

If it makes you happy then go ahead doesnt change the reality in front of you, you couldnt even visit 37% of "your country".

VP,

We'll talk more as things develop with the peace process VP. I don't want to fight you. I know that's what you want, to fight another TC who is a True Cypriot and you as a Partitionist who cannot relate to, other than try and claim other Cypriots land by force. That plan was working just fine for the first 30 years, until the year 2004 when the earth shook under your feet when the whole island of Cyprus was entered into the EU, and since then it has been one Political Shenanigan after another on how to undo that "damage". It's not going to work VP, so give it up. The tables has turned since 2004. All you are doing is just buying time for the tables to turn again, but the end results will be the same. The last 24 years should be enough evidence that partition has not worked for you. It's time for you to come home VP, and that home is called Cyprus.

We will talk more and I will be proven right yet again when talks break down or either side says no, the status quo is about as good as it will get you to will come to realize this over time.

As for the EU it didnt bring the magical solution the GCs sold the AP out for and they constantly refer to the UN for a solution so I see the EU solving anything, its appears we will be around for a long time to come as the TRNC.