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by **Oracle** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 6:13 pm

petr87 wrote:
Daemon wrote:He is not just expressing his views, he provocates emotional reaction of the GC’s while the one side is angelic and the other a beast that can't be trusted, while of course Turkey is trustable for god sake while after 74 they never kept their word. While in Turkey the military fagots are trying to eliminate Erdogan and their European future. A military based talibanistic dictatorship is trustable and some weak and fool GC’s are not. This is not hypocrisy?

And yes a foreigner with this attitude should educated by kikakpu and anyone that have a clue about the problem here.

And define what you mean by division, we are speaking about a TC state or about a Turkish province?

In the first case they do not afraid GC’s? Where is the difference if Turkish army will leave from here?

If we take the second possibility we are speaking about expansion of Turkey borders in European ground.

Can anyone suggest such bullshit openly?

Someone who suggest such bullshit he is not just a a hypocrite, he is a disgusting fagot.

I am affraid i don't agree with any of this.First of all,yes there is a huge difference if the Turkish army leaves from the island.Why stay??CYprus is not an island that anyone can come and bring the army just for some "Fears"...let the russians bring their army,and the Greeks bring their army and their French bring their army just because Russians,Greeks and French live on this island.And if u wanna know GCs and TCs were iving in peace before the invasion and the "contribution" of Britain .They were friends,neighbours...GCs never did anything against TCs.Britain back then couldn't handle herself EOKA and of course it was a good thing for her to turn the Cypriot problem into Greek-Turkish dispute.Britain and Turkey collaborated to fight EOKA.Most of the British police who hit the GCs were Turks and TCs.That was the point!!!!Turkey wanted to show that GCs was attacking the TCs and was her "duty" to protect her people from the "barbarians".And that is why Turkey invaded Cyprus...to assure the protection of TCs and that was the only thing she could do.Are we serious???????Turkey invades our island,kills thousands of innocent people,rapes women and children,takes our homes by force...and that is a peaceful intervention??and just what did they expect the GCs to do when Turks and British were attacking them?sit back and watch??i don't hate TCs that live on the island,i'm not saying that GCs are better...but get real people!!!when they threat our rights and our coutnry we are not gonna let them do whatever they want.We will stand for our rights ad we will honour the memory of all those people who fought against all enemies who tried to occupy Cyprus.and trust me,it's not a Turkish-Greek thing...it's something that all people in all countries would do if anyone tried to kick them out of their country!!!!

Welcome

Yeah you are right ... it's not because it is Greeks vs Turks ... but simply because one section of the population has violated the rights of another, by ethnically cleansing them from their homes and stealing their land ....

It is so much more ...

It is the difference between Right and Wrong!

by **Viewpoint** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 9:07 pm

Kikapu

I really did not wanted to get into involved debate with you over the Cyprus problems at this time as there is some movement towards peace talks, but since you raised the land issue, Cyprus can only have peace when land returns to it's rightful owners, or to be shared by it's rightful owners, and with the permission of the rightful owners. Anything else is nothing more than "might makes right".

I agree this can be done through a 2 state solution as supported by TCs and the GC leadership a BBF.

You also very quietly skipped my question to you, which was to tell me what was it that I told Expatkiwi that was inaccurate when I made him a list of events that has already happened, that if one were to support a permanent partition can only do so with the acceptance of all the things I listed, which makes him and others Morally Corrupted.

I disagree with the whole of your post to expat especially the belittling and righteous attitude you portray, who the hell are you to catagorize people as morally corrupt.

VP, do yourself a favour and stop looking for "ghosts" in my past that you think has harmed me or my family by the Turks or the TC's. Despite our ordeal in the hands of the GC's in 1963, myself and my immediate family has moved on with our lives and do not hold today's GC society responsible for the crimes committed by the few back then.

You for me are on the other side and even if you are a TC 100% your attitude and ideology is totally GC, you do not hae one good thing to say about TCs nor do you support the smallest od arguments in favor of TCs, you make excuses but they only confirm that you cannot be unbiased. Im glad that you and your family have been able to get past the past events but you have to accept many have not and therefore need safeguards to ensure they are comfortable with uniting with GCs, you have no right to sidestep other peoples fears just becuase you are convinced there are none.

My grievances with Turkey and the "TRNC" is strictly on their political dishonesty and political shenanigans towards finding a solution to Cyprus. But you very conveniently want to tie my displeasures of the above to make it mean that I'm against the Turks or the TC's. If that were the case, I would not have had my 50th Birthday celebrations in Turkey with my twin sister near Antalya at my favourite hotel. But your tactics fall in the above political dishonesty and political shenanigans very nicely to cast a label over me. Nice try, but my conscious is very clear and just like Teflon, it will not allow anything to stick to it..

You have to realize that for us Turkey stepped in, in our hour of need, they have provided not only financial support but also moral support through rough times for TCs, so we will always be indebted and your demonizing them will not sway TCs your way, you only perpetuate mistrust and hate towards people like yourself. You can ask any TC on this forum your hate for Turks is obvious in every post saying your saying you dont does not convince anyone becuase 99% of the time your display the opposite.

My whole approach to the political events in the "TRNC" just comes down to one thing, and that is being very Principled, which understandably clashes head on with the unprincipled, unethical, the greedy, and the morally corrupted. Along the way, the good and the innocent TC's who have become the "misguided lemmings" also end up arguing with my points of view at times, just because they want to "go with the flow". I do not have anything against them personally, and often I give them understanding in their stance. There are others who are also principled TC's such as Birkibrisli, Denizaksulu, Iceman and some others, but as individuals, we are different on some of our points of view. I do not expect others to understand how I formulate my points of view and they at times question me on them, as I do with theirs. It does not mean we do not care about our own community, the TC's and Cypriots in general. On the contrary, perhaps more than the others who are self serving individuals.

You and the GC support you have may think you are principled but from this side of the fence you look like a traitor and someone who has not 1 good to say about his own community, not once have you stepped into support a TCs arguments can we be so wrong, neither side is 100% wrong yet you continue to persue your goal of proving we are 100% to blame. I recommend you try to put the TC sides viewpoint accross thats you know or support anything that we claim.

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by **Daemon** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 9:44 pm

I am affraid i don't agree with any of this.First of all,yes there is a huge difference if the Turkish army leaves from the island.Why stay??CYprus is not an island that anyone can come and bring the army just for some "Fears"...let the russians bring their army,and the Greeks bring their army and their French bring their army just because Russians,Greeks and French live on this island.And if u wanna know GCs and TCs were iving in peace before the invasion and the "contribution" of Britain .They were friends,neighbours...GCs never did anything against TCs.Britain back then couldn't handle herself EOKA and of course it was a good thing for her to turn the Cypriot problem into Greek-Turkish dispute.Britain and Turkey collaborated to fight EOKA.Most of the British police who hit the GCs were Turks and TCs.That was the point!!!!Turkey wanted to show that GCs was attacking the TCs and was her "duty" to protect her people from the "barbarians".And that is why Turkey invaded Cyprus...to assure the protection of TCs and that was the only thing she could do.Are we serious???????Turkey invades our island,kills thousands of innocent people,rapes women and children,takes our homes by force...and that is a peaceful intervention??and just what did they expect the GCs to do when Turks and British were attacking them?sit back and watch??i don't hate TCs that live on the island,i'm not saying that GCs are better...but get real people!!!when they threat our rights and our coutnry we are not gonna let them do whatever they want.We will stand for our rights ad we will honour the memory of all those people who fought against all enemies who tried to occupy Cyprus.and trust me,it's not a Turkish-Greek thing...it's something that all people in all countries would do if anyone tried to kick them out of their country!!!!

petr87 you are obviously another one ridiculous fagot that tries to find reason in her chaos.

First of all in what you are disagreeing? :lol:

Are you having any connection with your fucked brain?

Second your fagotism in obvious in every fart you have said starting from this:

And if u wanna know GCs and TCs were iving in peace before the invasion and the "contribution" of Britain .They were friends,neighbours...GCs never did anything against TCs

And I will not kill my time to teach a brain dead about our faults, I will only send you to our president (did you vote him? :lol:

) to teach you him self. Our president, the great and funny communist Tzimis recognize our faults. :wink:

by **Daemon** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 10:24 pm

Yeah you are right ... it's not because it is Greeks vs Turks ... but simply because one section of the population has violated the rights of another, by ethnically cleansing them from their homes and stealing their land ....

It is so much more ...

It is the difference between Right and Wrong!

The difference between right and wrong is a very big issue but for sure I can tell you the difference from a dick and a pussy that’s why is better to go to wash some dishes, it Is probably the best thing you can do with your life.

And what do you mean what you are from Delphi? :lol:

If you are really interested to learn about the divine fuck of a true Greek just pm me :lol:

, I will teach you everything that no one else can, the most of the neopagans are hilarious brainless apes like they always was, I’m really enjoying humiliating them (I’m the real thing

) and their god Epicurus (the one that you confused before with Epiktitus) that was just a brainless ape like them and this is the main reason that they made him their stupid god. And because you are pussy I must worn you what there are many Satanists between them and they also like been fucked by my daemon.

by **joe** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 1:30 am

Daemon wrote:
If you are really interested to learn about

Your comments are repulsive. Learn how to discuss issues in a calm, civilized manner! You cant? Fine...

What did the 5 fingers say to the face?

Slaaaaaaaaaap!

Forum moderator??

I know that you prefer to intervene as little as possible but please do something about Daemon's abusive language. Its getting out of hand, i'd say more so than usual this time.

by **Daemon** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 1:37 am

Yes another one fagot.

Can you say where you disagree?

by **Get Real!** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 1:39 am

Daemon wrote:If you are really interested to learn about the divine fuck of a true Greek just pm me , I will teach you everything that no one else can, the most of the neopagans are hilarious brainless apes like they always was, I’m really enjoying humiliating them (I’m the real thing ) and their god Epicurus (the one that you confused before with Epiktitus) that was just a brainless ape like them and this is the main reason that they made him their stupid god. And because you are pussy I must worn you what there are many Satanists between them and they also like been fucked by my daemon.

I demand that your alias be upgraded to... "Adonis the Stud" :lol: