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[Kikapu]

piratis
Once again you are simplifying and ignoring a very important issue..
As i stated on my previous post, as long as idiots responsible for these attacks are not punished,your administration is silently approving this behaviour and sooner or later it will turn nasty.Is this what you want?Do you not know if & when some TC gets hurt from such an attack the response from fanatic TC's will be doing the same to some innocent GC who happens to be in the north?Is this what your administration is trying to achieve so that you can all start screaming to the rest of the world "come & see what the barbaric Turks are doing to innocent GC's wisiting their properties in north Cyprus"
This is exactly how these two communities got dragged into the mess we are in today...

I don't want to get into this argument, because there's nothing there there. In order to accuse authorities of not doing anything to those who violently damaged a car that happen to have had TC's in it, the authorities had to have caught the violators in the first place and then let them go with a smile, because the attacked were TC's. What I got from Halil's report was, the TC's reported the incident to a GC police officers as they were crossing back to the North. A little too late to catch the offenders at that moment would you not agree Iceman. The fact that a minor incident such as car vandalizing can make it into a newspaper in the North, can only to incite resentment towards the GC's in the South and possibly towards any peace negotiations. Do all car vandals in the North get press coverage also when committed by "Turks on Turks". If anyone thinks that there ever never going to be altercations between the GC's and TC's in the future once united, does not understand basic human behaviour. In my opinion, I am pleasantly surprised, that there are not much more serious incidents on regular basis, considering the situation that the two communities find themselves. We should all count our lucky stars.

Below was an incident today in Kosovo, who had also declared an illegal declaration of Independence. Can you understand why some people might not be too happy about the whole situation.



Just a little food for thought friends, specially for those who go out of their way to blow incidents way out of all proportions.

I'm not mentioning any names.

[halil]

piratis
Once again you are simplifying and ignoring a very important issue..
As i stated on my previous post, as long as idiots responsible for these attacks are not punished,your administration is silently approving this behaviour and sooner or later it will turn nasty.Is this what you want?Do you not know if & when some TC gets hurt from such an attack the response from fanatic TC's will be doing the same to some innocent GC who happens to be in the north?Is this what your administration is trying to achieve so that you can all start screaming to the rest of the world "come & see what the barbaric Turks are doing to innocent GC's wisiting their properties in north Cyprus"
This is exactly how these two communities got dragged into the mess we are in today...

By the same token, were the murderers of DT’s father in law brought to justice by your administration? We're talking murder here not just hooliganism to property.

GR,
The guys are saying on the paper , they were luck that traffic lights turned from red to green and they escape from .....???? !!!! it is not simple as that GR..... Hooliganism .......

About DT 's father in law i was with him while he was at hospital .... we don't want talk about it in here .... you are writing too many scenarios like this one .... come to your senses mate ....don't protect these people .....these kind of the people are damaging good will of the Cypriots...there is no excuse for them .

[Get Real!]

piratis
Once again you are simplifying and ignoring a very important issue..
As i stated on my previous post, as long as idiots responsible for these attacks are not punished,your administration is silently approving this behaviour and sooner or later it will turn nasty.Is this what you want?Do you not know if & when some TC gets hurt from such an attack the response from fanatic TC's will be doing the same to some innocent GC who happens to be in the north?Is this what your administration is trying to achieve so that you can all start screaming to the rest of the world "come & see what the barbaric Turks are doing to innocent GC's wisiting their properties in north Cyprus"
This is exactly how these two communities got dragged into the mess we are in today...

By the same token, were the murderers of DT’s father in law brought to justice by your administration? We're talking murder here not just hooliganism to property.

Not exactly the same case is it?You call it murder but DT's father in law died in a hospital due to ill treatment while under custody.He already had a very poor health condition before he was arrested and required special treatment which he was unintentionally denied.I strongly condemn the way he was treated,DT can confirm my thoughts on this.

Legal Analysis of Murder

A common law murder is defined as the unlawful killing of a human person with malice aforethought. Malice aforethought exists if the defendant acts with any of the following states of mind:

(i) Intent to kill; (ii) Intent to inflict serious bodily harm; (iii) Reckless indifference to an unjustifiably high risk to human life (abandoned and malignant heart); or (iv) Intent to commit a felony (felony-murder doctrine).

Now,tell me...do you approve these attacks on TC's in ROC controlled areas and justify these attacks as punishment well deserved?

I don't have the details of this particular event but your attempt to undermine DT's father-in-law's murder can only encourage my indifference to your plight.

[Oracle]

piratis
Once again you are simplifying and ignoring a very important issue..
As i stated on my previous post, as long as idiots responsible for these attacks are not punished,your administration is silently approving this behaviour and sooner or later it will turn nasty.Is this what you want?Do you not know if & when some TC gets hurt from such an attack the response from fanatic TC's will be doing the same to some innocent GC who happens to be in the north?Is this what your administration is trying to achieve so that you can all start screaming to the rest of the world "come & see what the barbaric Turks are doing to innocent GC's wisiting their properties in north Cyprus"
This is exactly how these two communities got dragged into the mess we are in today...

By the same token, were the murderers of DT’s father in law brought to justice by your administration? We're talking murder here not just hooliganism to property.

GR,
The guys are saying on the paper , they were luck that traffic lights turned from red to green and they escape from .....???? !!!! it is not simple as that GR..... Hooliganism .......

About DT 's father in law i was with him while he was at hospital .... we don't want talk about it in here .... you are writing too many scenarios like this one .... come to your senses mate ....don't protect these people .....these kind of the people are damaging good will of the Cypriots...there is no excuse for them .

Halil ... if they were in real danger don't you think they would have gone through red lights? ...

Or are all TCs such fervent observers of road traffic rules that you would not jump red lights if you feared for your life?

Your lies get grander and grander .... and more and more unbelievable....

As for the patronising tone you are adopting in trying to silence GR! ... it says so much for the type of hateful propagandist that you are that you would stoop to pressurise him with being "mates"!

[iceman]

I don't want to get into this argument, because there's nothing there there. In order to accuse authorities of not doing anything to those who violently damaged a car that happen to have had TC's in it, the authorities had to have caught the violators in the first place and then let them go with a smile, because the attacked were TC's. What I got from Halil's report was, the TC's reported the incident to a GC police officers as they were crossing back to the North. A little too late to catch the offenders at that moment would you not agree Iceman.

Last time such an incident happened it was bang in the middle of the busiest high street in the whole of Cyprus.
Makarios Avenue and yes there was police officers present because it was a demonstration to condemn the anniversary of 1974 war.
Guess what the police officers did when the TC car was attacked? turned their faces away...yes they preferred to ignore the situation.

The fact that a minor incident such as car vandalizing can make it into a newspaper in the North, can only to incite resentment towards the GC's in the South and possibly towards any peace negotiations. Do all car vandals in the North get press coverage also when committed by "Turks on Turks".

Any crime incident reported to the newspapers will get coverage regardless of who commited the crime...Yes the car vandals in the north do get get press coverage...BUT this is not a simple car vandalising as you all like to look at..
IT WILL SOONER OR LATER TURN NASTY if not dealt with...

[Nikitas]

Keep a sense of proportion here boys and girls!

RIK reported tonight on the problem of teens causing problems in old Nicosia, one of the buildings suffering the effects was the APOEL club house, the Faneromeni church and a nearby school. The graffiti left behind (in addition to other damage) was obviously written by Greek speakers. The residents of the area complained of insufficient policing. Let us keep sense of proportion in this. If anything the graffiti on the church were the most shocking because of the hostility they convey.

[miltiades]

Such ugly incidents should be punished severely by the law .It is a disgraceful behavior by a group of hooligans and there should be NO excuse whatsoever , they acted in a criminal manner and should be punished as criminals.These sordid affairs need not cloud our judgement just because the victims were T/Cs. Had this old boy been there at the time he would have intervened and perhaps end up in hospital but all decent citizens have to stand up to this thuggery.

[iceman]

I don't have the details of this particular event but your attempt to undermine DT's father-in-law's murder can only encourage my indifference to your plight.

I had no intention of undermining the incident which resulted with tragic death of DT's father in law.I stated before and i will repeat that i strongly condemn the way he was treated while under custody.He was (unintentionally) denied the specialist treatment which his poor health condition required.This was purely because of the incompetent doctors wrong diagnosis when they checked him and gave a clean bill that he would be OK in custody.This wrong diagnosis led to deterioration of his health which was already poor and eventually his death.When they realized how serious his condition was they did their best to save him but it was too late..He was not "murdered".

[Viewpoint]

Such ugly incidents should be punished severely by the law .It is a disgraceful behavior by a group of hooligans and there should be NO excuse whatsoever , they acted in a criminal manner and should be punished as criminals.These sordid affairs need not cloud our judgement just because the victims were T/Cs. Had this old boy been there at the time he would have intervened and perhaps end up in hospital but all decent citizens have to stand up to this thuggery.

Thank you miltiades you appear the only person with any humility and understanding that these incidents if left unattended will only perpetuate further more severe acts from the other side, so turning a blind eye and making excuses such like the 1960 will only lead to further more sever incidents.

[Oracle]

I don't have the details of this particular event but your attempt to undermine DT's father-in-law's murder can only encourage my indifference to your plight.

I had no intention of undermining the incident which resulted with tragic death of DT's father in law.I stated before and i will repeat that i strongly condemn the way he was treated while under custody.He was (unintentionally) denied the specialist treatment which his poor health condition required.This was purely because of the incompetent doctors wrong diagnosis when they checked him and gave a clean bill that he would be OK in custody.This wrong diagnosis led to deterioration of his health which was already poor and eventually his death.When they realized how serious his condition was they did their best to save him but it was too late..He was not "murdered".

Such is the judge and jury that we have come to expect from the lawless "TRNC" ... iceman has presented his verdict!