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[DT.]

EVeryone at the club is telling me the same thing. WHat the hell would 200 supporters be doing at the club on a non-match day? We barely get 100 there during match days and thats so that the "hard-core" fans can all go together to the match.

Had it been match day then I'd take a different view to it. Myself and 3 of my friends had metal pipes thrown at us by a bunch of 15-16 year old kids while we were making our way to the match...its a miracle no one got killed. (as far as I know I'm not a TC)

[iceman]

I'll tell you one thing that is strange though...The report says this happened yesturday...the big match however was on Saturday against Omonoia. Can't see what anyone was doing at the fan club in such force and on a day without a match on?

Anyway, I'll find out from the club directors. One of them has to have been there.

The incident happened on Saturday after the Omonoia game..It was published on Sunday's Kıbrıs.

[DT.]

I'll tell you one thing that is strange though...The report says this happened yesturday...the big match however was on Saturday against Omonoia. Can't see what anyone was doing at the fan club in such force and on a day without a match on?

Anyway, I'll find out from the club directors. One of them has to have been there.

The incident happened on Saturday after the Omonoia game..It was published on Sunday's Kıbrıs.

the report i read from famagusta gazette said yesturday and it was dated 17th but i'll go with yours iceman.

As i said, Apoel-Omonoia match days are a no go-area for all not just TC's. Unfortunately this is a serious problem we have in Cyprus regarding football violence which someone finally has to do something about....however labelling this as a tc racially fueled attack is wrong. The only thing this serves is to create more tension from something that was taken out of context. I don't think the 3 kids from omonoia knew the reprecussions of one of those lead pipes landing on my head as i'm sure the idiots outside apoel did not think either. What I'm also interested about is how many GC cars did they trash?

I'm still waiting for a confirmation from someone at the club or the supporters group.

[Get Real!]

None of this sort has happened on the other side. Why deny it?

You are posting irresponsibly. I remember incidents of GC cars having their tires slashed outside of casinos, a couple being spat on for wearing a cross around their neck, and not to mention the fact that some GCs never even make it back alive from the occupied territory… ie: DT’s father in law.

[Piratis]

Hooliganism is an international problem and exists everywhere. Here are just a few articles from just one newspaper over the last 1 year:

POLICE have threatened to boycott high-risk sports events after Larnaca’s Police Chief was injured and fires were set during a basketball match between AEL Limassol and APOEL Nicosia at the Kition Stadium in Larnaca on Thursday night.
http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.ph ... &archive=1

THE CAR of Apollon Limassol Chairman Frixos Savvides was attacked by vandals on Monday night while he was talking on a television chat show in Limassol.
http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.ph ... &archive=1

TWO people have been wounded and six cars damaged from a violent clash between supporters of Anorthosis and Omonoia, following a volleyball game at the Themistokleio stadium in Limassol.
http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.ph ... &archive=1

THE ELECTION victory of left-wing candidate Demetris Christofias on Sunday night sparked off violent reactions as hooded right-wing thugs went on the rampage in Nicosia and Limassol, attacking five moving cars, including a police car, and setting alight rubbish bins, cardboard boxes, skips and wild scrub.
http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.ph ... &archive=1

So yes, in Cyprus, like in many other countries, we have a problem with Hooliganism and actions must be taken.

But in this thread what we see is the attempt of some partitionists to politicize one such event to serve their aim. "Oh, the car of some TC was damaged by some Hooligans. This means Turkey should kill 1000s of people, ethnically cleanse 100s of thousands and steal those evil GCs lands in response".

If we had accepted the Annan plan then maybe TCs would withdraw from the parliament and Turkey would be invading us again today to save the poor TCs from being massacred from the APOEL Hooligans Then for the next 50 years they would be talking about the "2008 events".

Yes, I am intentionally exaggerating a bit, but I can very easily see how those that want the division of the country could not only take advantage of such events, but also provoke them and help for their escalation if they decide that such thing would serve their aims.

[iceman]

piratis
Once again you are simplifying and ignoring a very important issue..
As i stated on my previous post, as long as idiots responsible for these attacks are not punished,your administration is silently approving this behaviour and sooner or later it will turn nasty.Is this what you want?Do you not know if & when some TC gets hurt from such an attack the response from fanatic TC's will be doing the same to some innocent GC who happens to be in the north?Is this what your administration is trying to achieve so that you can all start screaming to the rest of the world "come & see what the barbaric Turks are doing to innocent GC's wisiting their properties in north Cyprus"
This is exactly how these two communities got dragged into the mess we are in today...

[halil]

piratis
Once again you are simplifying and ignoring a very important issue..
As i stated on my previous post, as long as idiots responsible for these attacks are not punished,your administration is silently approving this behaviour and sooner or later it will turn nasty.Is this what you want?Do you not know if & when some TC gets hurt from such an attack the response from fanatic TC's will be doing the same to some innocent GC who happens to be in the north?Is this what your administration is trying to achieve so that you can all start screaming to the rest of the world "come & see what the barbaric Turks are doing to innocent GC's wisiting their properties in north Cyprus"
This is exactly how these two communities got dragged into the mess we are in today...

exactly İceman , exactly ..... none of us happy .....what was happened to workers or TC's school at Pile (Pyle) some idiots are just pulling the trigger again ..... just beginning of the talks ......
we are always patient my friend İceman .... provocateurs can not damage the peace talks.... Don't notice the Pirates or Oracle ,they just ignores the real facts as usual ...

[Get Real!]

piratis
Once again you are simplifying and ignoring a very important issue..
As i stated on my previous post, as long as idiots responsible for these attacks are not punished,your administration is silently approving this behaviour and sooner or later it will turn nasty.Is this what you want?Do you not know if & when some TC gets hurt from such an attack the response from fanatic TC's will be doing the same to some innocent GC who happens to be in the north?Is this what your administration is trying to achieve so that you can all start screaming to the rest of the world "come & see what the barbaric Turks are doing to innocent GC's wisiting their properties in north Cyprus"
This is exactly how these two communities got dragged into the mess we are in today...

By the same token, were the murderers of DT’s father in law brought to justice by your administration? We're talking murder here not just hooliganism to property.

[Viewpoint]

piratis
Once again you are simplifying and ignoring a very important issue..
As i stated on my previous post, as long as idiots responsible for these attacks are not punished,your administration is silently approving this behaviour and sooner or later it will turn nasty.Is this what you want?Do you not know if & when some TC gets hurt from such an attack the response from fanatic TC's will be doing the same to some innocent GC who happens to be in the north?Is this what your administration is trying to achieve so that you can all start screaming to the rest of the world "come & see what the barbaric Turks are doing to innocent GC's wisiting their properties in north Cyprus"
This is exactly how these two communities got dragged into the mess we are in today...

Well said iceman not one GC has come out just condemned the incident and that the police should have acted more swiftly to stop such attacks on anyone. We must protect each other, GC visiting the north shoudl feel safe at all times and TCs should ensure that no fanatical TCs attack or harm them any incidents should be reported to the police right away.

[iceman]

piratis
Once again you are simplifying and ignoring a very important issue..
As i stated on my previous post, as long as idiots responsible for these attacks are not punished,your administration is silently approving this behaviour and sooner or later it will turn nasty.Is this what you want?Do you not know if & when some TC gets hurt from such an attack the response from fanatic TC's will be doing the same to some innocent GC who happens to be in the north?Is this what your administration is trying to achieve so that you can all start screaming to the rest of the world "come & see what the barbaric Turks are doing to innocent GC's wisiting their properties in north Cyprus"
This is exactly how these two communities got dragged into the mess we are in today...

By the same token, were the murderers of DT’s father in law brought to justice by your administration? We're talking murder here not just hooliganism to property.

Not exactly the same case is it?You call it murder but DT's father in law died in a hospital due to ill treatment while under custody.He already had a very poor health condition before he was arrested and required special treatment which he was unintentionally denied.I strongly condemn the way he was treated,DT can confirm my thoughts on this.

Now,tell me...do you approve these attacks on TC's in ROC controlled areas and justify these attacks as punishment well deserved?