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[Oracle]

Yeap, like the blow they dealt in Kosovo. I think the big powers spoiled us, for they came to our aid on countless occasions to prevent our disintegration.

Kosovo has nothing to do with Cyprus ... please retain some degree of flexibility on individuality ...

[umit07]

Yeah Phoenix just keep on waiting for your profit to suffice. The big powers as you say have never taken any concrete steps foward , why now?

Do you think that Cyprus is Jerusalem and that a mighty EU army will recover Cyprus for you? Wake up the crusades are finished.

[Bananiot]

I remember back in 1963, as a very young kid at the time, there were people that could see far ahead but they were scorned by the pavement patriots of the era. These visionaries would advise the hotheads that we should stop messing about with something that is far bigger than us and that such acts would bring Turkey to Cyprus. It is no good denying it that we brought Turkey to Cyprus by our stupid acts in 1963 when we decided that the Constitution was no good for us and went head on to destroy legality back then.

Kosovo may have nothing to do with Cyprus but if we do not learn lessons from the Kosovo exprerience we should get prepare to cry over the ruins once again.

[Oracle]

Whose experience could we have learnt from in 1963 to avoid what Turkey thunderbolted upon us? ...

Was that not a unique experience that no one could have foretold the future for from what had gone on before?

[michalis5354]

Erdogan has made a big difference since he got elected. We all remember the attitude of Edjevit and the likes of him that the Cyprus issue was solved in 1974. The only serious effort that has been taken towards the Cyprus issue was when he got elected and Cyprus was about to join the EU. Of course he was not alone and he had the military behind him but at least some credit need to be allocated to him. I remember the hardliners in Turkey who believed that Cyprus issue was solved in 1974 and everything was black and white.

[Bananiot]

Precisely, but some light headed Greek Cypriots think that Turkey will take a turn for the worst and disintegrate as a nation if the army gets its way and the EU closes the door. In fact these people do not like Erdogan because he thinks in terms of a compromise solution.

[Oracle]

Personally, I don't like Erdogan, simply, because he is a Turk .... who has not bothered to withdraw his troops from Cyprus!

[iceman]

Erdogan has made a big difference since he got elected. We all remember the attitude of Edjevit and the likes of him that the Cyprus issue was solved in 1974. The only serious effort that has been taken towards the Cyprus issue was when he got elected and Cyprus was about to join the EU. Of course he was not alone and he had the military behind him but at least some credit need to be allocated to him. I remember the hardliners in Turkey who believed that Cyprus issue was solved in 1974 and everything was black and white.

Plenty of them hanging around waiting for their turn.(Which makes the failed UN plan & referendums more significant.
You will see in the following years that we really did miss a big opportunity to put things right back in 2004)

[michalis5354]

I think Erdogan tries his best under very difficult circumstances and I mean the Military regime that oversees everything in Turkey. It will be a shame If he is replaced!

[Oracle]

You will see in the following years that we really did miss a big opportunity to put things right back in 2004)

Yes the TCs did miss a big chance to show they cared for Cyprus and its future.

If the TCs had voted "no" to the Annan plan too ... it would have really sent the message home that we wanted true re-unification on a fair basis ...