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[halil]

In an interview with Cyprus Dialogue editor in Chief Resat Akar , The CTP leader and Primer Minister Ferdi Sabit said the new territorial adjustments will be made in the likehood of settlement .He said that in such a situation ,The TC side would be prepared to withdraw to 29% of the island’s territory in line with a resolution adopted by TRNC parliment in 1986.
Natuarally , the settlement we reach will not be based solely on the arguments of left.The settlement we reach will need to satisfy the whole political spectrum ranging from moderate right wing , liberal and even nationalist political parties.We want a solution which iş found to be muyually acceptable to the large majority of both communities.

And how will you find the solution ?
There are the 1977-79 summit agreements.There is the Annan Plan which we accepted as a basis.All these proposals and plans set out the same thing , a bi-zonal , bi-communal federal settlement based based on political equality of the two sides.We have not given up this policy.

There will be territorial adjustments and concessions in the case of a settlement .How will you be able to persuade TC’s to resettle elsewhere ?
You have thouched an important point.Today some ‘nationalist’ with in the TC community criticise us for supporting a bi-zonal , bi0 communial federal settlement.Whereas it was they who eccepted and approved the 1977-79b summit agreements.We are simply uploading the treaties and agreements they had eccepted in the past.Parliement adopted a resolution in 1986 in favour of retreating to 29 % of the land.This is figure we stand by ,but natually there will be several adjustments.

And if the GC side does not accepted 29 % ?
The territory must be economically sustainable , which is why we insist on 29 %.

In the case of settlement similar to one envisaged by annan plan 55000 TC’s living in areas from Varosha to limnidi will have to move and resettle elsewhere .Where will you resettle these people ? Do you have any plans for this ?
There is a famous quote from former Turkish President Sulayman Demirel:’’ You don’t buy underwear for unborn child’’ so don^’t asked me to buy underwear for a child that hasn’t been born yet.

The issue of property is a serious one.People who are uncertain of the future live in a state of permanent anxiety.We have an old saying ‘’ property is a guarentee for life ‘’
Yes . I accepted this.However . The starting point of the Cyprus Problem and all the oyher contributing factors leading to the current situation are political.The incidence of 1963 broke out not because of property but because of the attemts of one community trying to impose its hegemony and control over the other.Fighting broke out over the notion of who was to become the master and who were to become the slaves of this island ? I would like to remind everyone : no one forced to leave their homes in 1963. 1967 and 1974 wondered what would become of property they had left behind.They were all fleeing for their lives.It is only now that the matter of property has become of great importance.The problem of property will be solved as part of comprehensive settlement of Cyprus problem.For example , this is what happened in places like the Czech Republic.Poland and even in Germany during reunification.

Those who will lose large amounts of land and money don’t share your views.
This is true.Foe example there are 2 groups of people on our side .One of thes groups is made upof people trying to cause alarm by stating.’’ Oh no look ! We are giving away all the land to Greek Cypriots ! ‘’ Once they scare the majority of the population.they then go and buy those properties more cheaply and as a result make huge sums of money.The other group consists of yhose who have signed away their property in the south for property in the northern .Later , some of these people sold their property in the South.I am warning them all right here ,right now :anyone who has sold their property in the South and continues to hold onto property in the north is in for big trouble.The same goes for people who have bought the property in the South.They will only lose out.

Well then how will the property problem will be solved ?
The property problem cannot be solved through European Arresr Warrants.ECHR decisions or gaol sentences passed by house of representatives.it is illegal and absolutely unaccepteble to appropriate TC properties in the South without the permission of rightful owners.When the GC’s come to demand compensation for the properties we have appropriated , we will not accept the dersory figures offered in the past for the compensation of TC emigration and disappearances started before 1963.Dont those who have not been able to return to or use their property in the interfening period have a right to be compensated ? it must work both ways.That’s why this problem has to solved in a way that is fair for both sides.For those who are not able to return to their proprty compensation or exchange will be offered.

[Nikitas]

29 per cent means giving back the dead zone and very little else. The dead zone is caclulted at 7 per cent of the territory.

Where is the spirit of compromise? The give and take?

[zan]

All fine by me.....Great response.

[bill cobbett]

It's the "spoils of war" under another name.

[zan]

29 per cent means giving back the dead zone and very little else. The dead zone is caclulted at 7 per cent of the territory.

Where is the spirit of compromise? The give and take?

We could demand 3 1/2 % but we are offering it all to you....The rest has had agreements in the past as stated.

[zan]

It's the "spoils of war" under another name.

You are quite happy to hang onto the spoils of war as in my Country though!!!

[Piratis]

Greek Cypriots are the great majority of the whole island.

Based on what do the Turks demand that they should rule land that belongs to Greek Cypriots by 82%???

If we will make a compromise for a federal solution, that should be not be achieved by TCs gaining land on our loss, but by a fair exchange of land, where GCs and TCs will own the same proportion of land as it legally belongs to them, just in a different place of Cyprus. That means that any "TC state" can not be more than 18%.

If the Turks want to gain on our loss by means of war, ethnic cleaning and brute force the answer is simple: NO WAY. The war will go on until the Turks stop trying to gain on our loss.

[zan]

Greek Cypriots are the great majority of the whole island.

Based on what do the Turks demand that they should rule land that belongs to Greek Cypriots by 82%???

If we will make a compromise for a federal solution, that should be not be achieved by TCs gaining land on our loss, but by a fair exchange of land, where GCs and TCs will own the same proportion of land as it legally belongs to them, just in a different place of Cyprus. That means that any "TC state" can not be more than 18%.

If the Turks want to gain on our loss by means of war, ethnic cleaning and brute force the answer is simple: NO WAY. The war will go on until the Turks stop trying to gain on our loss.

And the same goes for you who have taken away our rights under the Zurich agreement by murder and deception.......29% will make up for the loss of our island and our republic.

[bill cobbett]

Greek Cypriots are the great majority of the whole island.

Based on what do the Turks demand that they should rule land that belongs to Greek Cypriots by 82%???

If we will make a compromise for a federal solution, that should be not be achieved by TCs gaining land on our loss, but by a fair exchange of land, where GCs and TCs will own the same proportion of land as it legally belongs to them, just in a different place of Cyprus. That means that any "TC state" can not be more than 18%.

If the Turks want to gain on our loss by means of war, ethnic cleaning and brute force the answer is simple: NO WAY. The war will go on until the Turks stop trying to gain on our loss.

P. You have said in the past, words to the effect that you're not prepared to compromise a number of basic human rights and I, for one, have taken on board your recent posts about the difference between a solution and an agreement, so I am a little concerned to see the third paragraph in your post starts " If we will make a compromise .. federal solution..."

Are you going wobbly on us brother? Solution or Agreement ? Or have I got it wrong?

[bill cobbett]

It's the "spoils of war" under another name.

You are quite happy to hang onto the spoils of war as in my Country though!!!

Is this the hashish, acid or (more likely I suspect) last night's take-away curry speaking as it comes out the other end?