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[zan]

It's the "spoils of war" under another name.

You are quite happy to hang onto the spoils of war as in my Country though!!!

Is this the hashish, acid or (more likely I suspect) last night's take-away curry speaking as it comes out the other end?

Try common sense..which you seem not to apply when talking about the Cyprob......

[Get Real!]

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[Piratis]

Greek Cypriots are the great majority of the whole island.

Based on what do the Turks demand that they should rule land that belongs to Greek Cypriots by 82%???

If we will make a compromise for a federal solution, that should be not be achieved by TCs gaining land on our loss, but by a fair exchange of land, where GCs and TCs will own the same proportion of land as it legally belongs to them, just in a different place of Cyprus. That means that any "TC state" can not be more than 18%.

If the Turks want to gain on our loss by means of war, ethnic cleaning and brute force the answer is simple: NO WAY. The war will go on until the Turks stop trying to gain on our loss.

And the same goes for you who have taken away our rights under the Zurich agreement by murder and deception.......29% will make up for the loss of our island and our republic.

You are the ones who started the murders against us back in 1957. You can get your rights under the Zurich agreements if you give us ours. You want to take your rights (and even more gains on our loss) and not give us our rights? And you think we will accept that?

[Piratis]

Greek Cypriots are the great majority of the whole island.

Based on what do the Turks demand that they should rule land that belongs to Greek Cypriots by 82%???

If we will make a compromise for a federal solution, that should be not be achieved by TCs gaining land on our loss, but by a fair exchange of land, where GCs and TCs will own the same proportion of land as it legally belongs to them, just in a different place of Cyprus. That means that any "TC state" can not be more than 18%.

If the Turks want to gain on our loss by means of war, ethnic cleaning and brute force the answer is simple: NO WAY. The war will go on until the Turks stop trying to gain on our loss.

P. You have said in the past, words to the effect that you're not prepared to compromise a number of basic human rights and I, for one, have taken on board your recent posts about the difference between a solution and an agreement, so I am a little concerned to see the third paragraph in your post starts " If we will make a compromise .. federal solution..."

Are you going wobbly on us brother? Solution or Agreement ? Or have I got it wrong?

Bill, as long as the compromise is not on fundamental principles such as human rights and democracy, and as long as the Turkish side makes compromises of an equivalent magnitude from their rights, then a solution based on federation can be found. It will not be ideal, but if it meets the above requirements it will be a solution in my opinion.

I was never against compromises. What I am against are compromises on fundamental principles (human rights, democracy etc), and one sided compromises where one side only gives and the other side only takes. And I am always referring about rights here. Turks just giving back what does not belong to them in the first place does not count as a compromise.

[Viewpoint]

Greek Cypriots are the great majority of the whole island.

Based on what do the Turks demand that they should rule land that belongs to Greek Cypriots by 82%???

If we will make a compromise for a federal solution, that should be not be achieved by TCs gaining land on our loss, but by a fair exchange of land, where GCs and TCs will own the same proportion of land as it legally belongs to them, just in a different place of Cyprus. That means that any "TC state" can not be more than 18%.

If the Turks want to gain on our loss by means of war, ethnic cleaning and brute force the answer is simple: NO WAY. The war will go on until the Turks stop trying to gain on our loss.

And the same goes for you who have taken away our rights under the Zurich agreement by murder and deception.......29% will make up for the loss of our island and our republic.

You are the ones who started the murders against us back in 1957. You can get your rights under the Zurich agreements if you give us ours. You want to take your rights (and even more gains on our loss) and not give us our rights? And you think we will accept that?

Piratis you gained and have been benefiting form our loss since 1963 and you still want more, where is the we are entitled to human rights and democracy? You must learn to share equally and not gain on our loss, ring any bells?

[bill cobbett]

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Well said GR!

[Piratis]

You have been benefiting on our loss since 1960, when you collaborated with foreigners to deny to Cypriots their freedom and self determination.

"Share equally" means for each person in a state to be equal to another without any racist discriminations. Not what you want, to divide people among TCs and rest of Cypriots, so your minority of 18% will have 50% of power. Today it is the 21st century, not the Ottoman era where you had divided the people among Christians and Muslims, and gave to Muslims way more rights. In the 21st century every citizen should be equal to another without racist discriminations and segregations.

[shahmaran]

They should be but they are not, just like we were not before the 60s, you should stop what you are doing and take up "Twister" instead,you would do much better there.

[bill cobbett]

They should be but they are not, just like we were not before the 60s, you should stop what you are doing and take up "Twister" instead,you would do much better there.

Is it Pot Smoking Day in the occupied districts ?

[shahmaran]

No, pot does't even come close to the kick we get a when robbing GC babies from their lollies...