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[repulsewarrior]

...i am still afraid to tell my story. let me say we stayed. then we were forced to leave.

my auntie still gets phone calls from her neighbours, they cry together. but, we have hope.

tessintrnc, i suggest you be more careful. there is a big difference between insensitive and ignorant. if you deny this suffering as a whole to favour an argument, it is not insensitive.

the denial that has brought on this Injustice is not an issue of Greek vs Turk. it is a fight against intolerance, and as a person who is not directly implicated in this matter, i suggest you can be supporting Humanity's betterment, instead of the interests of any "one" side.

[miltiades]

All of our people suffered and many lost their lives as a direct result of the extreme elements ON BOTH SIDES and their blind allegiance to a bloody piece of cloth coupled with their allegiance to the two foreign countries and their betrayal to their own motherland CYPRUS. The Cypriot people have a history stretching back some 8 thousand years , long before the Greeks and the Turks. Our people , the G/Cs and the T/Cs ARE NOT MURDERERS , they are decent family orientated folk , industrious and progressive in every sense of the word.
Turkey invaded Cyprus as a direct result of the Greek mainland organised coup against the legitimate government of Cyprus.
The T/Cs felt threatened and welcomed what they call the Turkish intervention , regardless of the fact the the end result was not to restore the legitimate government of Cyprus but to divide our island , an act that will in years to come be responsible for more conflict and more deaths and suffering by our people. It is very naive of Turkey to think that in 5, 10 , 20 or 100 years from now there will be no conflict should Cyprus be divided on the present scale.It is also very naive of the G/Cs if they continue to deny TOTAL EQUALITY to our compatriots by putting aside numerical superiority and by creating multi community political parties in order to unite our people politically .
The extremists of EOKA B and the T/C extremists WERE NOT the majority but a very small and powerful group , both working against the interests of the Cypriot people.
The G/Cs claim that the T/Cs were forced into their enclaves by the T/C extremists and not out of fear for their lives , the truth of the matter must be that the T/Cs were being threatened by the EOKA B fanatics and another truth is that the T/C extremists demanded from the T/C community that they enter the enclaves to create separate communities. Both versions are correct. The end result our people suffered , thousands of G/Cs becoming refugees , thousand T/Cs displaced and many more thousands emigrating to avoid the harshness of the embargoes placed on their lives .
Is it not time now that Oracle , Zan , VP , Piratis , Panteman , BigAl and the likes of him , put their efforts in the process of reconciliation , stop the continue apportionment of blame , admit that both of our communities must share responsibility for the ugliness that the war brought to our shores and move ahead towards a united Cyprus.

[repulsewarrior]

...well said, Dr.

[zan]

stop posting from the Washington Post Oracle, Zan only reads from the Washington Star.

Zanny you've received about 15 posts countering your claims from reliable, independant sources ranging from newspapers to the European Council (Which you've called propaganda!! ).

Would you like to re-post the Washington Star or do you have something else?

What exactly has been countered DT... I have only been made to look right in every event...Not that I have read it all today because I ahve not had the time but for tis one post..But the general idea is that you guys have been picking from a certain point in time when I have given you up to date figures...Yes there were 200, 000 initially but 40,000 returned...End of on that one......The rest on how many the Turks killed...The judge is still out on that one and you guys are still reeling on the results........If I read it rightly...No one was killed in the coup and the Turks killed the lot... Sorry no more time at the moment but please PM me on your response so I don't miss it!!!!

[Kikapu]

Zan,

Do not forget to count all those who have been born to GC refugees since their eviction from the North in 1974, even if your numbers of 160,000 are correct, today's numbers would surpass 200,000 thousand by many thousands. Besides Zan, no one is going to feel less sympathetic to 160,000 than the 200,000 thousands, so what is your point playing with the numbers. Did the 160,000 refugees deserve to be kicked out of their lands and be given to the settlers, even if they were accurate to you. I think not.

[Viewpoint]

Why are we arguing figures again, the size does not lessen the impact or importance we should all be ashamed of the refugees and deaths both is 1963 and 1974 and leave it at that.

[Kikapu]

Why are we arguing figures again, the size does not lessen the impact or importance we should all be ashamed of the refugees and deaths both is 1963 and 1974 and leave it at that.

I go along with that VP.

[bill cobbett]

Why are we arguing figures again, the size does not lessen the impact or importance we should all be ashamed of the refugees and deaths both is 1963 and 1974 and leave it at that.

I go along with that VP.

Much as I disagree with much of VP posts (and I am sure I am not alone), I find myself being sympathetic on this one as well.

[pantheman]

The end result our people suffered , thousands
Is it not time now that Oracle , Zan , VP , Piratis , Panteman , BigAl and the likes of him , put their efforts in the process of reconciliation , stop the continue apportionment of blame , admit that both of our communities must share responsibility for the ugliness that the war brought to our shores and move ahead towards a united Cyprus.

Kupie Miltiade,

If you look back at other posts I have made you will see that I do admit to wrong doing on both sides and I am very willing to move forward. However, what we have here is your Cypriot brothers on the otherside who will NOT accept their share of the wrong doings and continue to accuse the GCs of all the ills this island has befallen.

Then you get the outsiders such as TrashinTRNC, who have the cheek to live and support those very illegal regimes who oust us from our home and then proceed to rub our faces in it too.

I am sorry, but, these low lifes really piss me off, and thats the reason for my responses to their posts.

People like Zan , VP, shahraman, big Al, and others well they are just partitionists and will say and do anything to prevent a just and fair solution.

Just read my signature and you will see where I stand.

Cheers

[miltiades]

The end result our people suffered , thousands
Is it not time now that Oracle , Zan , VP , Piratis , Panteman , BigAl and the likes of him , put their efforts in the process of reconciliation , stop the continue apportionment of blame , admit that both of our communities must share responsibility for the ugliness that the war brought to our shores and move ahead towards a united Cyprus.

Kupie Miltiade,

If you look back at other posts I have made you will see that I do admit to wrong doing on both sides and I am very willing to move forward. However, what we have here is your Cypriot brothers on the otherside who will NOT accept their share of the wrong doings and continue to accuse the GCs of all the ills this island has befallen.

Then you get the outsiders such as TrashinTRNC, who have the cheek to live and support those very illegal regimes who oust us from our home and then proceed to rub our faces in it too.

I am sorry, but, these low lifes really piss me off, and thats the reason for my responses to their posts.

People like Zan , VP, shahraman, big Al, and others well they are just partitionists and will say and do anything to prevent a just and fair solution.

Just read my signature and you will see where I stand.

Cheers

My dear P , I know that you have expressed reconciliatory views in the past and I do hope you will continue to do so.
As far as Tess goes , she may well be married happily to a T/C and quite rightly so she is standing by her man , nothing wrong with this , on the contrary it is admirable .