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[MicAtCyp]

Of course the ones who promised you a dream solution for 30 even 70 years wouldn't and cannot tell you to vote any plan that envisages political equality of TC community, exchange of properties, continuation of treaty of guarantee and treaty of alliance, restricted bi-zonality.

Ha,ha,ha. These are your dreams man! Sleep well...

and dont bother with insan. he is living in a dream world where northern cyprus is a legally independent state and where allowing refugees to return to their OWN property is a fantasy...

Not only that. He even calls the 1974 invasion a Peace operation not a .... Piss operation!!

[MicAtCyp]

But an arrogant, paranoid, prejudiced like you; can alleg that I did.

Do you by any chance mean Insane?

[pantelis]

Insan is not Insane, he has applied for a position in Talat's new "government"!
He is simply trying to improve his "credentials".

[erolz]

Insan is not Insane, he has applied for a position in Talat's new "government"!
He is simply trying to improve his "credentials".

Even though you jest the fact is that despite your attempts to 'marginalise' Inasn he could have my vote as a TC. I believe that he is comitted to trying to find a solution - but not at any prioce and that he is both reasonable and willing to accept the reality of the past - unlike many others.

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erolz

Even though you jest the fact is that despite your attempts to 'marginalise' Inasn he could have my vote as a TC. I believe that he is comitted to trying to find a solution - but not at any prioce and that he is both reasonable and willing to accept the reality of the past - unlike many others.

I agree as well, he represents the majority of TCs who want a solution but not at any price, we would rather continue as we are than accept a solution where we would be reduced to a TC minority in a GC state. So lighten up guys you are all going around in circles rather than accept,ng that our only route to a solution that would bring to an end all differences of opinion recognized partition for return of land, we each go our own way you guys with EU as RoC and us out of EU but our own recognized country TRNC.
I have not read one logical arguement that has changed my opinion since joining this forum, which confirms that my acceptence and viewpoint is the only way forward.

[MicAtCyp]

Insan is not Insane, he has applied for a position in Talat's new "government"! He is simply trying to improve his "credentials".

And I was wondering what the hell was going on, what the hell, what the hell.....Yia sou re Panteli. This explains it all....

PS. "yia sou" sometimes means congratulations.

[-mikkie2-]

All this arguing here is irrelevant!

There will soon be an opportunity for negotiations to recomence. That is when we will see how the land lies.

My prediction is that any plan, even if endorsed, that restricts the freedom of movement of the citizens of Cyprus will be trashed in the EU courts. There will be no solution to the Cyprus problem under those circumstances.

You can have your BBF solution, just as long as the basic freedoms are not compromised. That means the refugees must be given the choice to return, or to exchange, or to get equivalent land in their place of origin etc and it also means that people should be allowed to live wherever they choose.

Any open minded and creative person can also create a BBF solution that gives political rights relevant to their place of residence without compromising 'political equality'.

At the end of the day, if you wish to limit the basic freedoms it will come round and bite you even harder further down the line. Your short term gain will be your long term loss. What goes around, comes around.

[erolz]

At the end of the day, if you wish to limit the basic freedoms it will come round and bite you even harder further down the line. Your short term gain will be your long term loss. What goes around, comes around.

I have no wish to limit anyones freedoms but my first priorty in a settlement is to ensure that our right to not have decisions forced on us by the GC community against our will, that affect our community differntly to the GC commuity, is protected. If that can be done without the need for any restrictions on GC then I welcome the day such a solution arrives and the sooner the better.

[MicAtCyp]

I have no wish to limit anyones freedoms but my first priorty in a settlement is to ensure that our right to not have decisions forced on us by the GC community against our will, that affect our community differntly to the GC commuity, is protected. If that can be done without the need for any restrictions on GC then I welcome the day such a solution arrives and the sooner the better.

It HAS to be done without any restrictions on the basic human rights of GC i.e on their rights to return or not, to live anywhere they want, to get back or treat their properties the way they want. Otherwise there will be no solution.

Your first priority is respected and accepted within the above framework.

Answer me honestly though, is this the message you get from the following post of Insan??For me his message is " You get deprived of everything so that We get our political equality"

Of course the ones who promised you a dream solution for 30 even 70 years wouldn't and cannot tell you to vote any plan that envisages political equality of TC community, exchange of properties, continuation of treaty of guarantee and treaty of alliance, restricted bi-zonality.

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MicAtCyp

It HAS to be done without any restrictions on the basic human rights of GC i.e on their rights to return or not, to live anywhere they want, to get back or treat their properties the way they want. Otherwise there will be no solution.

-mikkie2-

That means the refugees must be given the choice to return, or to exchange, or to get equivalent land in their place of origin etc and it also means that people should be allowed to live wherever they choose.

Why this great desire to want to live amongst us and dont give me that ancenstral lands crap, its suspiscious to say the least and makes us question your true motives as we have no desire to move south even though we to have property there and could return now, where are all the droves of TCs that were expected to move to the "RoC" and settle after the restrictions had been removed.
If you were given property rights to rent or sell or exchange your property for the sake of compromise, why not?, I know Im willing to do this. Why this need to move in amongst us, im sure its not your love for TCs.