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Rauf Raif Denktas - will you miss him?

Poll ended at Sun Apr 17, 2005 4:18 pm

Yes
10
56%
No
6
33%
Rauf who?
2
11%
 
Total votes : 18

Postby magikthrill » Sat Apr 16, 2005 6:24 am

efe wrote:i agree that denktas wasnt the smartest leader however he was a leader of TC ommunity and he spent his lifetime to support TCs. (in his own way)

i kind of think he is like arafat, he doesnt want reunification, he doesnt trust GCs but for the people he represented, he didint do much wrong.

i also think he is humorous. : )


Um how is Denctash ANYTHING like Arafat my man? Don't forget the Palestinians' land are also being illegally occupied. I think it's the opposite with Denctash. Maybe you can compare him to war criminal Ariel Sharon.

And Arafat wanted his land back and was willing to accept a mixed unified state. That is why he refused to only accept a portion of his peoples' land. Get your facts st8 m8.
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Postby Saint Jimmy » Sat Apr 16, 2005 6:28 am

magikthrill wrote:
efe wrote:i agree that denktas wasnt the smartest leader however he was a leader of TC ommunity and he spent his lifetime to support TCs. (in his own way)

i kind of think he is like arafat, he doesnt want reunification, he doesnt trust GCs but for the people he represented, he didint do much wrong.

i also think he is humorous. : )


Um how is Denctash ANYTHING like Arafat my man? Don't forget the Palestinians' land are also being illegally occupied. I think it's the opposite with Denctash. Maybe you can compare him to war criminal Ariel Sharon.

And Arafat wanted his land back and was willing to accept a mixed unified state. That is why he refused to only accept a portion of his peoples' land. Get your facts st8 m8.

I think the Arafat analogy was a fair one. It is widely accepted that Arafat would accept no less than everything he asked for, in order to agree to a settlement. He was more part of the problem than of its solution, or at least that's what people who immersed themselves into the Midlle-East problem say. In that respect, it's not hard to draw the analogy.
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Postby magikthrill » Sat Apr 16, 2005 7:24 am

Saint Jimmy wrote:I think the Arafat analogy was a fair one. It is widely accepted that Arafat would accept no less than everything he asked for, in order to agree to a settlement. He was more part of the problem than of its solution, or at least that's what people who immersed themselves into the Midlle-East problem say. In that respect, it's not hard to draw the analogy.


Maybe but I do not see it that way seeing as Denctash and Arafat were on the two opposite sides of the realm. On the one hand you have the occupier and the other one the occupied. That is why I do not see this analogy as a fair one.
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Postby garbitsch » Sat Apr 16, 2005 1:08 pm

TMT is a terrorist organisation, but EOKA men were freedom fighters! Eheheh :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby MicAtCyp » Sat Apr 16, 2005 1:51 pm

Insan wrote: I think, afterwards 1982, Turkish side lost its hopes for a federal reunification and wanted to open a path for recognition as a seperate state.


What hopes?Are you still totally unaware of the game Denktash was playing?

wrote: Perhaps the proposals of Turkish side would have been rejected by GC side but Turkish side would have shown its willingness to solve the problem. To the contrary of these, Denktash and his team had most of the times been seemed like the intrasigence side.


What were the proposals of Denktas? Do you know them or you just fantasise? His proposals were always for a lose confederation=disguised partition, complete exchange of properties (i.e exchange 1 for 20-how clever ha?). Read your own extract from the Cyprus conflict The Americans materialised it by donating you the Anan Plan.

wrote: It's true that Hellenic lobby had a huge role of creating such a negative international impression about Denktash and Turkish side


So when Hannay himself described him as a rotard he was influenced by your imaginarry Hellenic lobby? I can give you another 100 of examples if you are interested. Denktash DID NOT hide his negativeness to ANY solution other than agreed partition. That's why he eventually refused to even go at Lucerne.

wrote: The settlers shouldn't have been given the GC properties for free. The GC properties should have been rented to settlers with the market prices of the North. Such a measure would have stopped most of the settlers to rush to North.


Any more bright ideas? Who gave you the right to even sell our properties to settlers?

wrote: Exchange of properties.


See last post in the "EU court ruling" thread. I recently revealed you this is a myth!!!! The TCs left behind 1/3rd of the land they got, whereas valuewise they got 20 times more. There can be no exchange of equal to equal properties!


Turkcyp wrote: You are right. WE are not being fair to Denktas. He is worse than him....

Compared to the founder of TMT, the chief thief of GC properties, and a so called president who only knew how to bring all negotiations to a dead end?
I wouldn’t expect anything different from a Denktash oglani anyway...

Cannedmoose wrote: I'm impressed at the poll figures so far... perhaps we will miss him after all...


Impressed??!! Be informed then that deep inside ALL the Tcs know very well where Denktash brought them at. Their only complain is that he did not fullfil their dream for recognition. If he would they would all forget about Ataturk and make them their new Father.
Too bad TC mates. Now you have to live with your Talaturi. The only difference is that Ankara was so far doing what Denktash was telling them.Talat will be doing whatever Ankara is telling him. That's the only difference. Good luck!
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Postby insan » Sat Apr 16, 2005 2:14 pm

Insan wrote:
I think, afterwards 1982, Turkish side lost its hopes for a federal reunification and wanted to open a path for recognition as a seperate state.



MicAtCyp wrote:

What hopes?Are you still totally unaware of the game Denktash was playing?


I'm well aware the game your Hellenic masters were playing.
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Postby Harry » Sat Apr 16, 2005 6:15 pm

Thought this day would never come, wish my father was around for this.
I wish I would have a nice thing to say about Dicktcash, but there isn't anything. Who says crime doesn't pay, Dicktcash would tell you otherwise.
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Postby insan » Sat Apr 16, 2005 6:38 pm

Impressed??!! Be informed then that deep inside ALL the Tcs know very well where Denktash brought them at. Their only complain is that he did not fullfil their dream for recognition. If he would they would all forget about Ataturk and make them their new Father.
Too bad TC mates. Now you have to live with your Talaturi. The only difference is that Ankara was so far doing what Denktash was telling them.Talat will be doing whatever Ankara is telling him. That's the only difference. Good luck!



You deserved something tasty in your mouth but anyways...
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Postby Harry » Sat Apr 16, 2005 7:00 pm

Hey Insan(e) in the membrane. Just sharing my opinion thats all. Speaking of something tasty, his mom should of swallowed him a long time ago. Like a chinese fella told me hes the cream of some young guy.
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Postby insan » Sat Apr 16, 2005 7:14 pm

Harry wrote:Hey Insan(e) in the membrane. Just sharing my opinion thats all. Speaking of something tasty, his mom should of swallowed him a long time ago. Like a chinese fella told me hes the cream of some young guy.


I didn't tell you something did I? Take care angel harry(alambopoulos) :lol:
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