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[Viewpoint]

Not lazy. You are not ready to asume the responsibility of being free. As a community the TCs have built a tradition of special status since the start, firstly as local representatives of the Ottoman empire, then as a special section of Cyprus under the British. The TCs traditionally sided with the British governor in the local legislative council to thwart GC proposals. And then under the Republic came the disproportionate share of power and the blockages. FInally, with the TRNC comes the claim that without 40 000 foreign soldiers they do not feel secure or that under EU regulations they must have special treatment, one foot in the EU one foot out. You see participation in a full democracy as "being ruled" by the majority. The phrasing "being ruled" is indicative. One does not hear of the natives of the US south talking about being ruled by the rest, and they had a civil war in which the casualties make our conflicts seem like junior league matches.

Do you have veto rights in the EU, do yo have the right to say no that will effect your people negatively or maybe life threatening?

[zan]

Not lazy. You are not ready to asume the responsibility of being free. As a community the TCs have built a tradition of special status since the start, firstly as local representatives of the Ottoman empire, then as a special section of Cyprus under the British. The TCs traditionally sided with the British governor in the local legislative council to thwart GC proposals. And then under the Republic came the disproportionate share of power and the blockages. FInally, with the TRNC comes the claim that without 40 000 foreign soldiers they do not feel secure or that under EU regulations they must have special treatment, one foot in the EU one foot out. You see participation in a full democracy as "being ruled" by the majority. The phrasing "being ruled" is indicative. One does not hear of the natives of the US south talking about being ruled by the rest, and they had a civil war in which the casualties make our conflicts seem like junior league matches.

Your type of majority rule has been the bane of my existence Nikitas.....Majority rule your way has been the near destruction of my entire race.....It has back fired and nearly destroyed you too. Your majority held us in ghettos for 40 years as we waited for justice to come and save us....In your little speech you have once again put us into a minority status with one swift move and we will not accept that in a land where we were partners from the start of the very first rep[ublic that ever existed on the island...You want to take and take again and you accuse us of wanting something that is not ours when it clearly is...But as VP has pointed out...When you are on the recieving end of an unfair system where 600,000 real GCs are given the same status as 65 million British then you say thank you and keep quite...Double standards or what My math is terrible...Care to have a shot at working out the percentages between TCs and GCS and that of GCs and Brits?????

[DT.]

The idea of all communiteis of Cyprus being treated as equals is intersting. Whenever anyone mentions it you will hear the usual suspects reminding everyone that the Armenians, Maronites, Latins and Rom have sided with the GCs so they should gt no equal communal rights. This is a LIE, they did not side with the GCs, the British lumped them together and reserved an exclusive status for the TCs. Once a colonialist always a colonialist. The TC position is not pro mirotiy equality but pro Turkish exclusivity.

As for those that ask, the spheres on top of Troodos are the British radar domes and one of the National Guard.

Did they fight back? did they try to stop enosis? who are they with now? if they have objecitons why do they not voice their opinions? they are no different from the Pakistanis living in the UK and are exposed to racism and discrmiantion by the GC majority.

They are? Have you been conducting a survey again? WHere did you hear this?


we talking s**t again VP?

Do your own research as to how discriminative your society is, anythng ı post you would shoot down anyway whats the point.

What gave you the idea that the maronites and armenians are discriminated? I'm just curious to see.

And yes, if you insist on posting wild theories fabricated in some corner of your mind then I will continue to shoot them down.

The point is for you to write something truthful and factual for starters.

Are you claiming that GCs are not discriminative? against other races Pakistanis Indians and Sri Lankens?? the ethnic origin is not important here its the general mentality of the GC people and that stinked in the past and stinks even today.

I'll get to that as well...You my friend made a statement about maronites and Armenians being discriminated in Cyprus.....Where did you get this from?

Ask the Maronite and Armenians.

I know plenty....we went to school with them, do business with them, date them....YOu realise how ridiculous you sound by claiming that GC's discriminate against Armenians and Maronites? I know cause they live over here....what the hell do you know?

[humanist]

utu

Okay, the Turkish Cypriots are saying that they want an equal voice in the running of Cyprus in any reunification solution in order to avoid an ethnic 'clash'. In short, nothing to do with population precentages. Well, if this is going to be a precondition, then what voice would the Marionite Cypriots and Armenian Cypriots have in such a setup? If there is to be no majority at the governing level by ANY population group, then the Armenian Cypriots and Marionite Cypriots must have their equal voice. That would mean 25% for each...

because its all bout me me me with the TC's.

they are the only minority in Cyprus so they believe.

utu not sure if you have hear about the enclaved GC's since 1974. Doo some research on that. You will find that although these people remained in the occuied area after 1974 the TC administration confiscated their land also. I do not think TC and fairness go hand in hand excpet when it suits their purpose.. Where are the rights of a minority group residing in the occupied area????? no one wants to speak about it.

[Oracle]

utu

Okay, the Turkish Cypriots are saying that they want an equal voice in the running of Cyprus in any reunification solution in order to avoid an ethnic 'clash'. In short, nothing to do with population precentages. Well, if this is going to be a precondition, then what voice would the Marionite Cypriots and Armenian Cypriots have in such a setup? If there is to be no majority at the governing level by ANY population group, then the Armenian Cypriots and Marionite Cypriots must have their equal voice. That would mean 25% for each...

because its all bout me me me with the TC's.

they are the only minority in Cyprus so they believe.

utu not sure if you have hear about the enclaved GC's since 1974. Doo some research on that. You will find that although these people remained in the occuied area after 1974 the TC administration confiscated their land also. I do not think TC and fairness go hand in hand excpet when it suits their purpose.. Where are the rights of a minority group residing in the occupied area????? no one wants to speak about it.

For example there were about 12,000 enclaved GCs remaining in the occupied villages in the north by the end of 1974 living under conditions of oppression, harassment and deprivation. Less than 500 Greek Cypriots and 173 Maronites remain (June 1998 figures).