Cyprus-Forum.com

[boomerang]

maybe you can define what a partnership is in your mind to help us answer your question.

Turn the question back on me why don't you... Old ones are the best DT

Answer the question.......

I CAN'T! A partnership can mean a lot of things! I'd love to give you an answer but i don't want to argue about things you may not even mean.

Let us know what thi spartnership is for you and you'll get much more specific answers. Otherwise if you're too lazy stop opening up open-ended threads.

Perhaps you could have taken the lead and told me what sort of partnership you would prefer and not let me guess time after time. You have the word partnership, now define what would suit you.

Zan this is your topic and you asked the question

What will the GCs lose by letting us have our partnership in Cyprus.

DT is correct in asking you to define partnership...answer the man with your defenition of partnership and stop wiggling

[zan]

Kurds, Cypriots, Jews? ...please refer to my proposalon Bicommunality in a Bizonal geography.

no one looses. They are Individuals, and they are Persons as well.

zan, if I understand the greatness of Ataturk correctly, he created a Modern Turkish State by providing the opportunity for all its peoples to have an Identity as a Turk, within the State, without having to be Turkish. What has Turkey, its government today, done to promote this great notion? It is apparent, it seems, that the problems in Turkey are the same as in Cyprus, only on a larger scale.

Turkeys constitution has been set in stone since its conception...The Cyprus republics has been destroyed by Makarios and his henchmen......We have been marginalised against that constitution. It is not the same at all.

[zan]

What I know is that I am excluded from the north today, allowed to go there only as a tourist. There is no reciprocity with any of the things TCs are allowed to do in the south, like work and open a business and claim back their house and land. Worse of all is the attitude that this state of affairs is normal.

What is there to make me think that it will be any different after a settlement? All I hear is bizonality and bicommunality and Talat defined that the bi thing excludes freedom of residence and establishment.

The most I can hope for is Famagusta to be restored. Basically that is the only thing I can look forward to. Hopefully before I get too old or dead. Famagusta is the test for the TC leadership. So far they have failed applying the bazaar mentality of using the home of 40 000 people as a bargaining chip, I don't trust people who think like that.

You ARE allowed to move and live in the TRNC/KKTC when ever you want to under the same conditions as we, the TCs, are allowed to in the "RoC".....Under our government and you can even claim your home back as the "ROC" PERMITS...WHEN there is a settlement. I too am only a tourist unless I move and live in the "RoC" so what is the difference????You are really mixed up!!!

[zan]

What will the GCs lose by letting us have our partnership in Cyprus.

Many will say that there are no problems with a partnership based on equal individuals and I, for one, am quite happy that individuals are treated equally fairly irrespective of which community they are stupid and racist enough to feel they belong to but I'll have no truck with this bizonal/bicommunal/bipedal/bicycle b---ocks, which is at best partition in all but name and at worst one very, very small step from partition. I wouldn't touch this or any other agreement that rewards the RoT with the spoils of war with several barge-poles tied end to end (!)

Look around you Zan. I gather you, like me, spend time/live in North London. Does any community here in GB have or ask for the ridiculous special treatment you demand for the northern community? For goodness sake not even your good neighbours the majority indigenous Anglo-Saxon/English population ( for want of a better phrase ) expect special treatment. Do they?

The whole of the UK is asking to govern itself Bill...What are you talking about.....Scotland, Wales and even Cornwall have had ideas on this. Scotland will soon split for sure.

[zan]

What will the GCs lose by letting us have our partnership in Cyprus.

Personally I like to choose my partners, be they for pleasure or business.

I do not want to be invaded by them and have their presence forced upon me.

The Turk-TCs are the worst partners on offer ... I would not touch them with a barge pole.

They invade, they destroy, they annihilate, they bemoan, they are lazy, they lie, they steal ....

Turk-TCs .. your collective Curriculum Vitae stinks and no one would seriously consider you as partners ...

Clean up your act.

How would you propose we treat the T/Cs , after all they are Cypriots just as VP says and Zan .I dont have much time for Zan with his constant regurgitation of the 60s , Makarios EOKA and all the propaganda nonsense that this full of hate individual keeps posting. He follows the line of the absurd , the ridiculous almost approaching insanity , and yet he is right when he says he is a T/C and wants equality in a united Cyprus. No one is denying him an equal status under the law , but he has to define his interpretation of what equality means, Numerical equality can not be achieved and all can see this , but political equality , such as the one that I enjoy in the UK where I'm equal to every English , Welsh or Scottish national in all respects ,most certainly yes.

My personal views are that in a united Cyprus there should be NO majorities or minorities , such issues become the core of the problem , which is the motherland nonsense , the bloody flags of both foreign countries that dictate to the Cypriots the divisionist road that they follow blindly.
My ambition is to see a T/C as the president of a united Cyprus raising proudly two fingers up to the persecutors of our identity and proclaiming that his allegiance is to Cyprus and all its people .Come to think of it in some years from now it might even be feasible to imagine a Russian or an Englishman as the Cypriot president !!!

Shame you spend so much time on someone you have no time for


If you do not want me to go on about the past then let us both concentrate on the present.......Presently we have two states and a partitioned island......So lets start from there then...NO? You want to turn back time but only as far back as 1974...Is that right.....And you call that equality? You get what you want and I get stuffed...The Greek version of fair is it???? Equal representation for my people and my culture and my language, existing on the island for centuries. I want these to ensure that these important factors are not whittled away as I have no intension of destroying the Greek culture on the island. You are not willing to give me that so....Partition...We have the choice and we will take it.

[zan]

maybe you can define what a partnership is in your mind to help us answer your question.

Turn the question back on me why don't you... Old ones are the best DT

Answer the question.......

I CAN'T! A partnership can mean a lot of things! I'd love to give you an answer but i don't want to argue about things you may not even mean.

Let us know what thi spartnership is for you and you'll get much more specific answers. Otherwise if you're too lazy stop opening up open-ended threads.

Perhaps you could have taken the lead and told me what sort of partnership you would prefer and not let me guess time after time. You have the word partnership, now define what would suit you.

Zan this is your topic and you asked the question

What will the GCs lose by letting us have our partnership in Cyprus.

DT is correct in asking you to define partnership...answer the man with your defenition of partnership and stop wiggling

That is bullshit Boomers and you know it.

I have gotten what I wanted from this thread and that is that you, the GCs do not want any form of partnership and only a minority status for the TCs. Bananiot is the only person who has even hinted at a future partnership on the island and peace and respect for each others cultures. The rest of you are spooked by the idea that any form of concession will be made to your plans so as I have always said...The alternative, and we do have an alternative, will be partition....Simple really.

[boomerang]

maybe you can define what a partnership is in your mind to help us answer your question.

Turn the question back on me why don't you... Old ones are the best DT

Answer the question.......

I CAN'T! A partnership can mean a lot of things! I'd love to give you an answer but i don't want to argue about things you may not even mean.

Let us know what thi spartnership is for you and you'll get much more specific answers. Otherwise if you're too lazy stop opening up open-ended threads.

Perhaps you could have taken the lead and told me what sort of partnership you would prefer and not let me guess time after time. You have the word partnership, now define what would suit you.

Zan this is your topic and you asked the question

What will the GCs lose by letting us have our partnership in Cyprus.

DT is correct in asking you to define partnership...answer the man with your defenition of partnership and stop wiggling

That is bullshit Boomers and you know it.

I have gotten what I wanted from this thread and that is that you, the GCs do not want any form of partnership and only a minority status for the TCs. Bananiot is the only person who has even hinted at a future partnership on the island and peace and respect for each others cultures. The rest of you are spooked by the idea that any form of concession will be made to your plans so as I have always said...The alternative, and we do have an alternative, will be partition....Simple really.

and who is looking at you?

[bill cobbett]

What will the GCs lose by letting us have our partnership in Cyprus.

Many will say that there are no problems with a partnership based on equal individuals and I, for one, am quite happy that individuals are treated equally fairly irrespective of which community they are stupid and racist enough to feel they belong to but I'll have no truck with this bizonal/bicommunal/bipedal/bicycle b---ocks, which is at best partition in all but name and at worst one very, very small step from partition. I wouldn't touch this or any other agreement that rewards the RoT with the spoils of war with several barge-poles tied end to end (!)

Look around you Zan. I gather you, like me, spend time/live in North London. Does any community here in GB have or ask for the ridiculous special treatment you demand for the northern community? For goodness sake not even your good neighbours the majority indigenous Anglo-Saxon/English population ( for want of a better phrase ) expect special treatment. Do they?

The whole of the UK is asking to govern itself Bill...What are you talking about.....Scotland, Wales and even Cornwall have had ideas on this. Scotland will soon split for sure.

[zan]

More and more people every day mate!!!!!!!!


Long live the TRNC/KKTC!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[DT.]

More and more people every day mate!!!!!!!!


Long live the TRNC/KKTC!!!!!!!!!!!!!

pipe down Napoleon...

If you can't even explain what the hell it is you're asking on your own thread then you better stop opening them up.