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Postby Get Real! » Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:41 am

unitedwestand wrote:
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unitedwestand wrote:In an ideal world the island would be united. This will require compromises on both sides.

The education system has the responsibility to teach love and respect on both sides of the border. I know for a fact the exact opposite is true today.

Equal rights and goodwill from both sides can achieve a united Cyprus if the will is there


All the above is catered for via a true democracy backed by the EU and a conversion from the 1960 agreements to that should be easy as pie.

Our kids are not educated in Brussels. We have an in house problem. EU ideals aren't going to solve it, we need an hands on approach.

Those who insist on the "community" approach will never solve the Cyprus problem because it IS the problem itself.

Communities = Racism = Segregation
(racial/religious differences are important)

Citizens = Diversities = United
(racial/religious differences are unimportant)
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Postby unitedwestand » Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:55 am

Get Real! wrote:
unitedwestand wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
unitedwestand wrote:In an ideal world the island would be united. This will require compromises on both sides.

The education system has the responsibility to teach love and respect on both sides of the border. I know for a fact the exact opposite is true today.

Equal rights and goodwill from both sides can achieve a united Cyprus if the will is there


All the above is catered for via a true democracy backed by the EU and a conversion from the 1960 agreements to that should be easy as pie.

Our kids are not educated in Brussels. We have an in house problem. EU ideals aren't going to solve it, we need an hands on approach.

Those who insist on the "community" approach will never solve the Cyprus problem because it IS the problem itself.

Communities = Racism = Segregation
(racial/religious differences are important)

Citizens = Diversities = United
(racial/religious differences are unimportant)


You are stating the ideal. The fact today is that there are 2 communities that have many issues to resolve. Lets cross this bridge first and then slowly work our way to your ideal conclusion.
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:10 am

unitedwestand wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
unitedwestand wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
unitedwestand wrote:In an ideal world the island would be united. This will require compromises on both sides.

The education system has the responsibility to teach love and respect on both sides of the border. I know for a fact the exact opposite is true today.

Equal rights and goodwill from both sides can achieve a united Cyprus if the will is there


All the above is catered for via a true democracy backed by the EU and a conversion from the 1960 agreements to that should be easy as pie.

Our kids are not educated in Brussels. We have an in house problem. EU ideals aren't going to solve it, we need an hands on approach.

Those who insist on the "community" approach will never solve the Cyprus problem because it IS the problem itself.

Communities = Racism = Segregation
(racial/religious differences are important)

Citizens = Diversities = United
(racial/religious differences are unimportant)


You are stating the ideal. The fact today is that there are 2 communities that have many issues to resolve. Lets cross this bridge first and then slowly work our way to your ideal conclusion.

I am stating basic REALITY which you’ll find in any decent book on sociology.

Break the backbone of the “community” and you have mere citizens running around in panic looking for a group to join… a great time to join their country!

Throw Greece and Turkey out of the equation BY LAW and you are half way to the solution. Those who do not wish to be Cypriots should be thrown out of the country altogether to go find their ancestors and leave the rest alone in peace.
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Postby Big Al » Fri Mar 14, 2008 6:13 am

Throwing Turkey out of Cyprus is a solution for GC's not TC's, can you GC's please understand that you do not speak for all cypriots and what good for you may not be in the best interests on TC's?????????????????????????????????????????????????
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Postby Oracle » Fri Mar 14, 2008 6:19 am

Big Al wrote:Throwing Turkey out of Cyprus is a solution for GC's not TC's, can you GC's please understand that you do not speak for all cypriots and what good for you may not be in the best interests on TC's?????????????????????????????????????????????????



Big Al ... you do not speak for any Cypriots, merely Turks.

Turkey is out .... any TCs stuck to it can go too.
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Postby Big Al » Fri Mar 14, 2008 6:22 am

and what its up to you is it???
get real oracle, nothing you or any other GC says goes or has any meaning in nth cyprus. how about we just build a little fence like Israel has done and not have to look at eachother or listen to you talk crap constantly
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Postby repulsewarrior » Fri Mar 14, 2008 6:24 am

GR...i suppose that english will be our Official Language?

otherwise the plan is daffy. or... like i suggest, allow each citizen to vote for both, their Greek Cypriot Representative and their Turkish Cypriot Representative in a Bicameral Legislature and allow for a Lower House for Proportional Representation where the elector votes for a Representative that is Independant of the Political Parties.

A Leader, our President, would surely have the credibility to Govern if his/her Party runs candidates on both Slates and wins a majority of seats in an Upper House that is split evenly, whether "Turkish", "Greek", or, "Sri Lankan", I suppose that a good qualification is that they should be born here.l
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Postby Big Al » Fri Mar 14, 2008 6:29 am

Repsulse can you please, for the love of god STOP REPEATING THE SAME PARAGRAPHS!!!!
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Postby DT. » Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:17 am

Big Al wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Big Al wrote:im no foreigner, im as TC as anyone else on this forum....if only you had half the common sense of growuptc perhaps a cyprus-forum would not be required.

If indeed you are a T/C then you did not learn either History or Geography at school , had you done so then you would Know that the Turkish flag is a foreign flag in Cyprus just as the Greek flag is , let me be rude and say that it is plonkers like you on both sides who HAVE CAUSED all the mayhem , killings and suffering of the CYPRIOT PEOPLE.
You are a T/C you say , then be a proud T/C not an Anatolian Turk .



fuck me you still dont get it, a turk is a turk is turk is a turk, borders nations mean nothing, nothing separated me from a mainland turk, someone from azerbajan, turkmenistan or any other nation on earth that is inhabited by turks, there are over 350 million, turkey population is just a fraction of turks on this earth. :D


care to put that to a poll amongst your TC compatriots on this forum?

DO you feel you exactly the same as a Turk in Turkey, Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan etc?
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Postby zan » Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:59 am

Get Real! wrote:
unitedwestand wrote:Wise words from GR. I wonder if you are offering all these benefits to your compatriots, cousins as an equal community or as a community with minority status. Are you prepared to go back to the 1960 constitution?

Remember United We Stand.

The 1960 constitution is a violation of the UN’s Universal Declaration of Human Rights…

http://www.un.org/Overview/rights.html

…in that it is based on ethnic communities having disproportional rights and privileges, and such a political arrangement is both undemocratic and technically illegal in the EU for its members.


Have you written to the EU about this and asked them to take away the disproportional rights afforded the "RoC" with only 600,000 real GCs having the same power as the UK with 65 million people..... :shock: What did they say...What what!!!!!!!!! :roll: :roll: :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol: I do wish you would think things through before you post crap!!! :arrow: :arrow: :arrow:
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