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vp

...nothing is lost, yet. and things have to change.

tell me once, you think that my proposal is fair and the best suited to our needs, even if it will never see any light of day, beyond our prattle. i would like to know that i have a heart, and it is in the right place.

repulse you seem like a very nice individual but I do not agree with your cantonal proposal as it does not convince me that living in a small area surrounded by GCs would make a good basis for a partnership deal and we would feel at risk.

For me personally I do not see a solution but more of the same at least in my life time so I and many TCs do not expect anything to come out of the talks. Seen it dont it been there before.

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VP wrote:

"37% "

And with that mindset you expect a settlement! You are out of your mind. If 18 per cent of the population deserve 37 per cent of territory how much does the 82 per cent deserve? I know the answer I am going to get but the point is to inform the foreigners who come to this forum. So they can see the attitude.

Since when has the population % determined the land distribution eg Scotland Wales and England example, provide one example where this has been the case. We to have a right on this island you will try to reduce that to a minimum and we will try to get as much as we can negotiating a middle point is the best way forward. My stating 37% was in response to a post that thought we only had 18% under our control just like you have 63% under GC control.

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You're right if nth cyprus is given back, a future under GC's is very shitty, and therefore not acceptable to TC's my friend...

How exactly did you arrive at that conclusion? When it comes to business astuteness, democracy, freedom, modernization, etc the GC way wins hands down so what exactly is your gripe?

So why arent all the TCs running south?

[Get Real!]

You're right if nth cyprus is given back, a future under GC's is very shitty, and therefore not acceptable to TC's my friend...

How exactly did you arrive at that conclusion? When it comes to business astuteness, democracy, freedom, modernization, etc the GC way wins hands down so what exactly is your gripe?

So why arent all the TCs running south?

You're not answering the question.

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You're right if nth cyprus is given back, a future under GC's is very shitty, and therefore not acceptable to TC's my friend...

How exactly did you arrive at that conclusion? When it comes to business astuteness, democracy, freedom, modernization, etc the GC way wins hands down so what exactly is your gripe?

So why arent all the TCs running south?

You're not answering the question.

You can keep all your sucess if we are expected to accept being a minority in a GC state, we do not want any part of your "RoC"

[Get Real!]

You're right if nth cyprus is given back, a future under GC's is very shitty, and therefore not acceptable to TC's my friend...

How exactly did you arrive at that conclusion? When it comes to business astuteness, democracy, freedom, modernization, etc the GC way wins hands down so what exactly is your gripe?

So why arent all the TCs running south?

You're not answering the question.

You can keep all your sucess if we are expected to accept being a minority in a GC state, we do not want any part of your "RoC"

Do you know how many TCs have chosen to live anywhere BUT in the “TRNC” ?

Ever wonder why? Here’s a clue… what people REALLY NEED AND WANT is, employment, housing, medical care, education, etc, and all these are attainable in the RoC and much more while the “TRNC” on the other hand provides a fuck-all temporary pseudo status!

Given the above FACTS please try and explain the comment…

“a future under GC's is very shitty”

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You're right if nth cyprus is given back, a future under GC's is very shitty, and therefore not acceptable to TC's my friend...

How exactly did you arrive at that conclusion? When it comes to business astuteness, democracy, freedom, modernization, etc the GC way wins hands down so what exactly is your gripe?

So why arent all the TCs running south?

You're not answering the question.

You can keep all your sucess if we are expected to accept being a minority in a GC state, we do not want any part of your "RoC"

Do you know how many TCs have chosen to live anywhere BUT in the “TRNC” ?

Ever wonder why? Here’s a clue… what people REALLY NEED AND WANT is, employment, housing, medical care, education, etc, and all these are attainable in the RoC and much more while the “TRNC” on the other hand provides a fuck-all temporary pseudo status!

Given the above FACTS please try and explain the comment…

“a future under GC's is very shitty”

I wouldnt know as I choose my country the TRNC over the UK. You can demonize the TRNC all you want but its home, where we feel we belong and where we feel safe, the "RoC" is a foreign country run by GCs for GCs we are not part of it, it could be heaven on earth which I doubt but its not ours the recognized or not the TRNC is.

[Get Real!]

You're right if nth cyprus is given back, a future under GC's is very shitty, and therefore not acceptable to TC's my friend...

How exactly did you arrive at that conclusion? When it comes to business astuteness, democracy, freedom, modernization, etc the GC way wins hands down so what exactly is your gripe?

So why arent all the TCs running south?

You're not answering the question.

You can keep all your sucess if we are expected to accept being a minority in a GC state, we do not want any part of your "RoC"

Do you know how many TCs have chosen to live anywhere BUT in the “TRNC” ?

Ever wonder why? Here’s a clue… what people REALLY NEED AND WANT is, employment, housing, medical care, education, etc, and all these are attainable in the RoC and much more while the “TRNC” on the other hand provides a fuck-all temporary pseudo status!

Given the above FACTS please try and explain the comment…

“a future under GC's is very shitty”

I wouldnt know as I choose my country the TRNC over the UK. You can demonize the TRNC all you want but its home, where we feel we belong and where we feel safe, the "RoC" is a foreign country run by GCs for GCs we are not part of it, it could be heaven on earth which I doubt but its not ours the recognized or not the TRNC is.

Then you are nothing but a dreamer with no long-term realistic care for the well being of your people. The Turkish Cypriots have had three decades to experiment with their experiment of a segregated community and what have they achieved so far?

Well, the main “achievement” that sticks out the most appears to be international isolation which has fuelled underworld crime and as a result of this, thousands of Turkish Cypriots have fled to the US/UK/Germany, and Australia, for a normal life.

Now tell me, if it was YOUR job to come up with a plan that would ensure the preservation and well-being of the Turkish Cypriots as a people, what would you do?

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You're right if nth cyprus is given back, a future under GC's is very shitty, and therefore not acceptable to TC's my friend...

How exactly did you arrive at that conclusion? When it comes to business astuteness, democracy, freedom, modernization, etc the GC way wins hands down so what exactly is your gripe?

So why arent all the TCs running south?

You're not answering the question.

You can keep all your sucess if we are expected to accept being a minority in a GC state, we do not want any part of your "RoC"

Do you know how many TCs have chosen to live anywhere BUT in the “TRNC” ?

Ever wonder why? Here’s a clue… what people REALLY NEED AND WANT is, employment, housing, medical care, education, etc, and all these are attainable in the RoC and much more while the “TRNC” on the other hand provides a fuck-all temporary pseudo status!

Given the above FACTS please try and explain the comment…

“a future under GC's is very shitty”

I wouldnt know as I choose my country the TRNC over the UK. You can demonize the TRNC all you want but its home, where we feel we belong and where we feel safe, the "RoC" is a foreign country run by GCs for GCs we are not part of it, it could be heaven on earth which I doubt but its not ours the recognized or not the TRNC is.

Then you are nothing but a dreamer with no long-term realistic care for the well being of your people. The Turkish Cypriots have had three decades to experiment with their experiment of a segregated community and what have they achieved so far?

Well, the main “achievement” that sticks out the most appears to be international isolation which has fuelled underworld crime and as a result of this, thousands of Turkish Cypriots have fled to the US/UK/Germany, and Australia, for a normal life.

Now tell me, if it was YOUR job to come up with a plan that would ensure the preservation and well-being of the Turkish Cypriots as a people, what would you do?

Wise words from GR. I wonder if you are offering all these benefits to your compatriots, cousins as an equal community or as a community with minority status. Are you prepared to go back to the 1960 constitution?

Remember United We Stand.

[Get Real!]

Wise words from GR. I wonder if you are offering all these benefits to your compatriots, cousins as an equal community or as a community with minority status. Are you prepared to go back to the 1960 constitution?

Remember United We Stand.

The 1960 constitution is a violation of the UN’s Universal Declaration of Human Rights…

http://www.un.org/Overview/rights.html

…in that it is based on ethnic communities having disproportional rights and privileges, and such a political arrangement is both undemocratic and technically illegal in the EU for its members.