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[74LB]

Because their turkish army was bombing innocent people. What do some people not understand here? I hear terms like peace operation. I hear terms like....

I was in a village just outside Famagusta (Karakol - couple of hundred TC's at most) and around 10:00 on 20th July all hell broke loose. Bombs, gunfire, tank-fire, you name it, we received it.

And I can assure you there was no Turkish army in sight.

Why ... did they get frightened and hide?


Strange that there is never a badly behaved Turk when there is another Turk in view ....

Always a joke to you when the firing is at TC's rather than them being on the receiving end.

[Oracle]

Because their turkish army was bombing innocent people. What do some people not understand here? I hear terms like peace operation. I hear terms like....

I was in a village just outside Famagusta (Karakol - couple of hundred TC's at most) and around 10:00 on 20th July all hell broke loose. Bombs, gunfire, tank-fire, you name it, we received it.

And I can assure you there was no Turkish army in sight.

Why ... did they get frightened and hide?


Strange that there is never a badly behaved Turk when there is another Turk in view ....

Always a joke to you when the firing is at TC's rather than them being on the receiving end.

Sorry, but I received plenty of bombs from Turkey ... whilst innocently minding my own business in my own country ...

At least you have the guilt of knowing you came as invaders ....

[74LB]

At least you have the guilt of knowing you came as invaders ....

As you show no signs of getting over the mindset that says the above, there is I'm afraid no hope for us

[Oracle]

At least you have the guilt of knowing you came as invaders ....

As you show no signs of getting over the mindset that says the above, there is I'm afraid no hope for us

Tata ... you seem settled in London ....

[umit07]

Going back to the topic!

Turkey had been warning GC's since 63, before Turkey intervened they tried to ally with the UK. Coming back to the situation in Cyprus, there was no differenc between the aims of Grivas and Makarios they both wanted ENOSIS but both had different routes to getting there. Grivas was a crazy facist, who wanted to use the big Greek military presence on the island to wipe TC's out within a few days. Makarios on the other hand knew that any sudden moves would get him in trouble with Turkey and had a more subtle approach of systematic assimilation of TC's on the island. Let's not forget that Grivas was accusing Makarios of being anti-Enosis but in every public speach Makarios made he always stressed out he was for it!!!

[Oracle]

Going back to the topic!

Grivas was a crazy facist, who wanted to use the big Greek military presence on the island to wipe TC's out within a few days. !

Grivas was in Cyprus for over 10 years ... if he wanted to wipe out TCs within days why did he not do so, over the course of 10 years?

[umit07]

That is exactly the reason why the coup happened, Grivas had no political authority to "give the order".

[humanist]

I think if people are happy with things as they are

occupied north
GC's human right violated
TC's stay where they are because they are happy
embargoes applied and maintained then lets just leave it there

I personally feel its fair that somone live and exclude e from my ancestral home and the economic embargoes applied and maintained

[denizaksulu]

.... such was Turkey's urgency to invade Cyprus that Ecevit flew to London to ask them to intervene along with Turkey aginst the Greek forces.

To answer Oracles question "At what point did Turkey tell the GCs who were fighting the coupists that it was there to assist them?" ... right at the very begining, having asked Britain for assistance (not given) and having asked Greece to stop (refused).

Well it answers my question in as much as saying ...

At no point did Turkey communicate with the GCs who were themselves already in the process of terminating the coup.

Turkey did not seek alliance with the GCs ... it did not intervene to assist, but it invaded to gain for itself.

Turkey may have communicated with US, and UK and even Greece ... but at no point did they communicate with the GCs who were at the forefront of the resistance to the coup.

So why did Turkey not only by-pass the GCs but also join in killing them?

And 1963 didn't happen and the murders did not happen and the isolation did not happen and the coup did not happen...How many chances did you expect to get

Are you capable of answering the question Zan .. or are you just showing us your face?

Otherwise kindly leave it to observer ....

The question has been answered a hundred times but it seems you are too slow to get it......Turkey has interests in Cyprus...Big news.... That takes nothing away from the way we were treated in our own country as Turkish Cypriots...That is what you are trying to do though

Why are bothering to post? ... you sound bored with your own rhetoric

So basically, you agree it was all a pretext by Turkey to ethnically cleanse the north of GCs .....

The dye was cast by the Greek regimes dear lady.....As we have said before...The Cyprus problem did not start in 1974.......

But Turkey is here, now, because it was restoring peace as a guarantor power ... or are you [b]calling them liers[/b]?

liers

Well done! ... knew you'd be useful one day ...

Correction Deniz says:

Turkey tell lies

Because

Turkey are liars

Time for bed .....

Lost for words.

[zan]

Going back to the topic!

Grivas was a crazy facist, who wanted to use the big Greek military presence on the island to wipe TC's out within a few days. !

Grivas was in Cyprus for over 10 years ... if he wanted to wipe out TCs within days why did he not do so, over the course of 10 years?

A little thing called TURKEY got in the way....Methinks!!!!!