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[Oracle]

.... such was Turkey's urgency to invade Cyprus that Ecevit flew to London to ask them to intervene along with Turkey aginst the Greek forces.

To answer Oracles question "At what point did Turkey tell the GCs who were fighting the coupists that it was there to assist them?" ... right at the very begining, having asked Britain for assistance (not given) and having asked Greece to stop (refused).

Well it answers my question in as much as saying ...

At no point did Turkey communicate with the GCs who were themselves already in the process of terminating the coup.

Turkey did not seek alliance with the GCs ... it did not intervene to assist, but it invaded to gain for itself.

Turkey may have communicated with US, and UK and even Greece ... but at no point did they communicate with the GCs who were at the forefront of the resistance to the coup.

So why did Turkey not only by-pass the GCs but also join in killing them?

And 1963 didn't happen and the murders did not happen and the isolation did not happen and the coup did not happen...How many chances did you expect to get

Are you capable of answering the question Zan .. or are you just showing us your face?

Otherwise kindly leave it to observer ....

[zan]

.... such was Turkey's urgency to invade Cyprus that Ecevit flew to London to ask them to intervene along with Turkey aginst the Greek forces.

To answer Oracles question "At what point did Turkey tell the GCs who were fighting the coupists that it was there to assist them?" ... right at the very begining, having asked Britain for assistance (not given) and having asked Greece to stop (refused).

Well it answers my question in as much as saying ...

At no point did Turkey communicate with the GCs who were themselves already in the process of terminating the coup.

Turkey did not seek alliance with the GCs ... it did not intervene to assist, but it invaded to gain for itself.

Turkey may have communicated with US, and UK and even Greece ... but at no point did they communicate with the GCs who were at the forefront of the resistance to the coup.

So why did Turkey not only by-pass the GCs but also join in killing them?

And 1963 didn't happen and the murders did not happen and the isolation did not happen and the coup did not happen...How many chances did you expect to get

Are you capable of answering the question Zan .. or are you just showing us your face?

Otherwise kindly leave it to observer ....

The question has been answered a hundred times but it seems you are too slow to get it......Turkey has interests in Cyprus...Big news.... That takes nothing away from the way we were treated in our own country as Turkish Cypriots...That is what you are trying to do though

[boomerang]

.... I recall that leaflets in Turkish and Greek was dropped from aircraft. Somebody posted something about it. Anyone remember? The object of the military action was stated. A pointless exercise but just something niggling me.

... About as trustworthy as when they told the Armenians they were just going for a walk ....

Just as pointless as expecting the TCs to fight along with the GCs who since 1963 has been trying to dominate, who had been killing and trying to 'starve' into submission - if they had their way.

Either you have no clue what went on prior to 1974 or choose to bury your head in the sand a la Ostrich, so you can pour out your venom.

Grow up girl.

Deniz are you saying all GCS were dominating, kiling and trying to starve into submission the tcs?

Well atleast it explains the reasons behind the ethnic cleansing doesn't it...

Boomerang it certainly does not mean that. Events have proved it, but the climate at the time would not have been conducive to judge who is Eoka B, Left wing, right wing, Supporters of this or that. In that climate, unfortunately all get tarnished with the same brush. Only after the dust has settled down and after the fact do things appear more clearly.

Did any prominent GC at the time lift a finger up and say, hey , what are we doing to the TCs? I am suresome have 'thought' it, but action speaks louder than words.

Let us look at it from a different perspective Deniz...

with your logic since 1/3 of the population was uprooted from their homes, you can't blame them for having ill feelings towards the turks then...can you?...or even the tcs for that fact...

Nothing compares to what "turkey=fascist state" did to Cyprus since 74...

Simply "turkey=fascist state" abused her guarantor powers...and using the same words as you, action indeed speaks louder than words...

[Viewpoint]

.... I recall that leaflets in Turkish and Greek was dropped from aircraft. Somebody posted something about it. Anyone remember? The object of the military action was stated. A pointless exercise but just something niggling me.

... About as trustworthy as when they told the Armenians they were just going for a walk ....

Just as pointless as expecting the TCs to fight along with the GCs who since 1963 has been trying to dominate, who had been killing and trying to 'starve' into submission - if they had their way.

Either you have no clue what went on prior to 1974 or choose to bury your head in the sand a la Ostrich, so you can pour out your venom.

Grow up girl.

Deniz are you saying all GCS were dominating, kiling and trying to starve into submission the tcs?

Well atleast it explains the reasons behind the ethnic cleansing doesn't it...

Boomerang it certainly does not mean that. Events have proved it, but the climate at the time would not have been conducive to judge who is Eoka B, Left wing, right wing, Supporters of this or that. In that climate, unfortunately all get tarnished with the same brush. Only after the dust has settled down and after the fact do things appear more clearly.

Did any prominent GC at the time lift a finger up and say, hey , what are we doing to the TCs? I am suresome have 'thought' it, but action speaks louder than words.

Let us look at it from a different perspective Deniz...

with your logic since 1/3 of the population was uprooted from their homes, you can't blame them for having ill feelings towards the turks then...can you?...or even the tcs for that fact...

Nothing compares to what "turkey=fascist state" did to Cyprus since 74...

Simply "turkey=fascist state" abused her guarantor powers...and using the same words as you, action indeed speaks louder than words...

1974 was the result not the cause, try to understand that you contributed greatly to the division of today.

[zan]

.... I recall that leaflets in Turkish and Greek was dropped from aircraft. Somebody posted something about it. Anyone remember? The object of the military action was stated. A pointless exercise but just something niggling me.

... About as trustworthy as when they told the Armenians they were just going for a walk ....

Just as pointless as expecting the TCs to fight along with the GCs who since 1963 has been trying to dominate, who had been killing and trying to 'starve' into submission - if they had their way.

Either you have no clue what went on prior to 1974 or choose to bury your head in the sand a la Ostrich, so you can pour out your venom.

Grow up girl.

Deniz are you saying all GCS were dominating, kiling and trying to starve into submission the tcs?

Well atleast it explains the reasons behind the ethnic cleansing doesn't it...

Boomerang it certainly does not mean that. Events have proved it, but the climate at the time would not have been conducive to judge who is Eoka B, Left wing, right wing, Supporters of this or that. In that climate, unfortunately all get tarnished with the same brush. Only after the dust has settled down and after the fact do things appear more clearly.

Did any prominent GC at the time lift a finger up and say, hey , what are we doing to the TCs? I am suresome have 'thought' it, but action speaks louder than words.

Let us look at it from a different perspective Deniz...

with your logic since 1/3 of the population was uprooted from their homes, you can't blame them for having ill feelings towards the turks then...can you?...or even the tcs for that fact...

Nothing compares to what "turkey=fascist state" did to Cyprus since 74...

Simply "turkey=fascist state" abused her guarantor powers...and using the same words as you, action indeed speaks louder than words...

The legitimate government of the Zurich agreement does not exist so who was Turkey supposed to hand back to Boomers.......This will not go away you know.......What the likes of Tpap have done to the country is equal in loudness....

[Oracle]

.... such was Turkey's urgency to invade Cyprus that Ecevit flew to London to ask them to intervene along with Turkey aginst the Greek forces.

To answer Oracles question "At what point did Turkey tell the GCs who were fighting the coupists that it was there to assist them?" ... right at the very begining, having asked Britain for assistance (not given) and having asked Greece to stop (refused).

Well it answers my question in as much as saying ...

At no point did Turkey communicate with the GCs who were themselves already in the process of terminating the coup.

Turkey did not seek alliance with the GCs ... it did not intervene to assist, but it invaded to gain for itself.

Turkey may have communicated with US, and UK and even Greece ... but at no point did they communicate with the GCs who were at the forefront of the resistance to the coup.

So why did Turkey not only by-pass the GCs but also join in killing them?

And 1963 didn't happen and the murders did not happen and the isolation did not happen and the coup did not happen...How many chances did you expect to get

Are you capable of answering the question Zan .. or are you just showing us your face?

Otherwise kindly leave it to observer ....

The question has been answered a hundred times but it seems you are too slow to get it......Turkey has interests in Cyprus...Big news.... That takes nothing away from the way we were treated in our own country as Turkish Cypriots...That is what you are trying to do though

Why are bothering to post? ... you sound bored with your own rhetoric

So basically, you agree it was all a pretext by Turkey to ethnically cleanse the north of GCs .....

[zan]

.... such was Turkey's urgency to invade Cyprus that Ecevit flew to London to ask them to intervene along with Turkey aginst the Greek forces.

To answer Oracles question "At what point did Turkey tell the GCs who were fighting the coupists that it was there to assist them?" ... right at the very begining, having asked Britain for assistance (not given) and having asked Greece to stop (refused).

Well it answers my question in as much as saying ...

At no point did Turkey communicate with the GCs who were themselves already in the process of terminating the coup.

Turkey did not seek alliance with the GCs ... it did not intervene to assist, but it invaded to gain for itself.

Turkey may have communicated with US, and UK and even Greece ... but at no point did they communicate with the GCs who were at the forefront of the resistance to the coup.

So why did Turkey not only by-pass the GCs but also join in killing them?

And 1963 didn't happen and the murders did not happen and the isolation did not happen and the coup did not happen...How many chances did you expect to get

Are you capable of answering the question Zan .. or are you just showing us your face?

Otherwise kindly leave it to observer ....

The question has been answered a hundred times but it seems you are too slow to get it......Turkey has interests in Cyprus...Big news.... That takes nothing away from the way we were treated in our own country as Turkish Cypriots...That is what you are trying to do though

Why are bothering to post? ... you sound bored with your own rhetoric

So basically, you agree it was all a pretext by Turkey to ethnically cleanse the north of GCs .....

The dye was cast by the Greek regimes dear lady.....As we have said before...The Cyprus problem did not start in 1974.......

[Oracle]

.... such was Turkey's urgency to invade Cyprus that Ecevit flew to London to ask them to intervene along with Turkey aginst the Greek forces.

To answer Oracles question "At what point did Turkey tell the GCs who were fighting the coupists that it was there to assist them?" ... right at the very begining, having asked Britain for assistance (not given) and having asked Greece to stop (refused).

Well it answers my question in as much as saying ...

At no point did Turkey communicate with the GCs who were themselves already in the process of terminating the coup.

Turkey did not seek alliance with the GCs ... it did not intervene to assist, but it invaded to gain for itself.

Turkey may have communicated with US, and UK and even Greece ... but at no point did they communicate with the GCs who were at the forefront of the resistance to the coup.

So why did Turkey not only by-pass the GCs but also join in killing them?

And 1963 didn't happen and the murders did not happen and the isolation did not happen and the coup did not happen...How many chances did you expect to get

Are you capable of answering the question Zan .. or are you just showing us your face?

Otherwise kindly leave it to observer ....

The question has been answered a hundred times but it seems you are too slow to get it......Turkey has interests in Cyprus...Big news.... That takes nothing away from the way we were treated in our own country as Turkish Cypriots...That is what you are trying to do though

Why are bothering to post? ... you sound bored with your own rhetoric

So basically, you agree it was all a pretext by Turkey to ethnically cleanse the north of GCs .....

The dye was cast by the Greek regimes dear lady.....As we have said before...The Cyprus problem did not start in 1974.......

But Turkey is here, now, because it was restoring peace as a guarantor power ... or are you calling them liers?

[denizaksulu]

.... such was Turkey's urgency to invade Cyprus that Ecevit flew to London to ask them to intervene along with Turkey aginst the Greek forces.

To answer Oracles question "At what point did Turkey tell the GCs who were fighting the coupists that it was there to assist them?" ... right at the very begining, having asked Britain for assistance (not given) and having asked Greece to stop (refused).

Well it answers my question in as much as saying ...

At no point did Turkey communicate with the GCs who were themselves already in the process of terminating the coup.

Turkey did not seek alliance with the GCs ... it did not intervene to assist, but it invaded to gain for itself.

Turkey may have communicated with US, and UK and even Greece ... but at no point did they communicate with the GCs who were at the forefront of the resistance to the coup.

So why did Turkey not only by-pass the GCs but also join in killing them?

And 1963 didn't happen and the murders did not happen and the isolation did not happen and the coup did not happen...How many chances did you expect to get

Are you capable of answering the question Zan .. or are you just showing us your face?

Otherwise kindly leave it to observer ....

The question has been answered a hundred times but it seems you are too slow to get it......Turkey has interests in Cyprus...Big news.... That takes nothing away from the way we were treated in our own country as Turkish Cypriots...That is what you are trying to do though

Why are bothering to post? ... you sound bored with your own rhetoric

So basically, you agree it was all a pretext by Turkey to ethnically cleanse the north of GCs .....

The dye was cast by the Greek regimes dear lady.....As we have said before...The Cyprus problem did not start in 1974.......

But Turkey is here, now, because it was restoring peace as a guarantor power ... or are you [b]calling them liers[/b]?

liers

[zan]