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[raiseurfist]

The first link seems to work for me

[webbo]

Okay, sorry everyone. Let's try this link. Can't guarantee it will work, but it's copyrighted footage, and thus can't be shown on Youtube. It's a series of several cars on one day skidding very badly on the same icy bridge of a highway. Some cars spin 180 degrees and get hit by other cars (but no bad injuries it looks like, except for maybe the first car)

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/us - go down to the list of all the videos. In the 5th or 6th row is a video titled, "Cars spin on icy roads."

Sorry Mills, still nothing doing on the home computer, though Webbo said he had no problems viewing it at work!

bubbles x

[kurupetos]

Milly,

OK, I think this link from NBC works...

Nice clip.

http://video.nbc4.com/player/?id=227314

The problem is not the ice but the crappy american cars with 80s tech. I wonder if a Mercedes or a BMW would spin like a Matchbox...

[LENA]

For me the first link worked just fine.

[Mills Chapman]

Kurupetos,

I meant to say in my pm to you that I distinctly saw a Volkswagen Jetta in that clip. Volkswagens, as you may know, are made by green elves in the Black Forest and not by black elves in the green forest.

[kurupetos]

Kurupetos,

I meant to say in my pm to you that I distinctly saw a Volkswagen Jetta in that clip. Volkswagens, as you may know, are made by green elves in the Black Forest and not by black elves in the green forest.

I don't know what you mean exactly. I saw the VW Jetta on the video as well but let me remind you that VW Jetta (for North American market only) are made in Mexico with significantly lower quality standards than the european VW Jetta version to reduce pricing. In my opinion the are even worse than american cars.

From Wikipedia:

"Again following the precedent of naming cars for winds, the "Vento" (as it was known in most of the world) debuted in 1992 while the JettaIII debuted in North America in 1993 after production delays and quality problems at the Volkswagen plant in Puebla, Mexico.[39] The name Vento means wind in both Portuguese and Italian. Because of the success of the second generation in North America, VW decided to keep the Jetta nameplate. However, in Europe the car was given its new name to appeal to a younger market.[40]

This generation of the car is widely credited for keeping VW from pulling out of the North American market.[44][45] At the time of its introduction in 1993, Volkswagen of America's sales hit a low not seen since the 1950's. The division sold only 43,902 cars in that year. Sales began slowly due to the aforementioned issues at the Puebla plant.[46] However, sales rebounded dramatically in the following years, mostly based on the strength of the Jetta, which continued to be the best selling VW in the USA"

[Mills Chapman]

Kurupetos,

I meant to say in my pm to you that I distinctly saw a Volkswagen Jetta in that clip. Volkswagens, as you may know, are made by green elves in the Black Forest and not by black elves in the green forest.

I don't know what you mean exactly. I saw the VW Jetta on the video as well but let me remind you that VW Jetta (for North American market only) are made in Mexico with significantly lower quality standards than the european VW Jetta version to reduce pricing. In my opinion the are even worse than american cars.

From Wikipedia:

"Again following the precedent of naming cars for winds, the "Vento" (as it was known in most of the world) debuted in 1992 while the JettaIII debuted in North America in 1993 after production delays and quality problems at the Volkswagen plant in Puebla, Mexico.[39] The name Vento means wind in both Portuguese and Italian. Because of the success of the second generation in North America, VW decided to keep the Jetta nameplate. However, in Europe the car was given its new name to appeal to a younger market.[40]

This generation of the car is widely credited for keeping VW from pulling out of the North American market.[44][45] At the time of its introduction in 1993, Volkswagen of America's sales hit a low not seen since the 1950's. The division sold only 43,902 cars in that year. Sales began slowly due to the aforementioned issues at the Puebla plant.[46] However, sales rebounded dramatically in the following years, mostly based on the strength of the Jetta, which continued to be the best selling VW in the USA"

Okay, you win on the issue of where they are made. I meant the Black Forest in Germany.. not that VWs were ever made there, but I said that for the off-color wordplay. People usually think of elves as green (at least in commercials and some fairy tales).

[kurupetos]

Kurupetos,

I meant to say in my pm to you that I distinctly saw a Volkswagen Jetta in that clip. Volkswagens, as you may know, are made by green elves in the Black Forest and not by black elves in the green forest.

I don't know what you mean exactly. I saw the VW Jetta on the video as well but let me remind you that VW Jetta (for North American market only) are made in Mexico with significantly lower quality standards than the european VW Jetta version to reduce pricing. In my opinion the are even worse than american cars.

From Wikipedia:

"Again following the precedent of naming cars for winds, the "Vento" (as it was known in most of the world) debuted in 1992 while the JettaIII debuted in North America in 1993 after production delays and quality problems at the Volkswagen plant in Puebla, Mexico.[39] The name Vento means wind in both Portuguese and Italian. Because of the success of the second generation in North America, VW decided to keep the Jetta nameplate. However, in Europe the car was given its new name to appeal to a younger market.[40]

This generation of the car is widely credited for keeping VW from pulling out of the North American market.[44][45] At the time of its introduction in 1993, Volkswagen of America's sales hit a low not seen since the 1950's. The division sold only 43,902 cars in that year. Sales began slowly due to the aforementioned issues at the Puebla plant.[46] However, sales rebounded dramatically in the following years, mostly based on the strength of the Jetta, which continued to be the best selling VW in the USA"

Okay, you win on the issue of where they are made. I meant the Black Forest in Germany.. not that VWs were ever made there, but I said that for the off-color wordplay. People usually think of elves as green (at least in commercials and some fairy tales).

Mills,

Thanks for the info. Is this black forest an interesting place to visit? It happens to live nearby Germany and could visit it at some time. Is it in Bavaria? If I go to Munich I could also visit BMW's factory!

[Mills Chapman]

Kurupetos,

The Black Forest is a very famous and scenic part of Germany, right next to Bavaria. If you go to Munich, you should also see the Dachau concentration camp.

However, Kurupetos, if you really want to see great Mercedes Benz and BMW factories, you should go to these two places:
http://www.bmwusfactory.com and http://mbusi.com/pages/factory_home.asp