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Postby zan » Tue Mar 11, 2008 3:02 am

boomerang wrote:
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boomerang wrote:800 people you call it genoside...therefore 100 people is very high :lol:


You drinking again Boomers :lol: :lol: :lol: What are you talking about....Where do I mention geocide...The papers of the day did and many reports after the events did!!!!


In other threads zan...actually a lot of tcs call it a genoside...

PS...So I take it there was no genoside in the RoC then...Why not clarified it then Zan

was it
1...Genoside?
or
2...Communal fighting?



Depends what part you mean.......Sampsons was definitely genocide. Numbers do not matter.....There was inter communal fighting in places but the majority of it was to disrupt the TCs and their involvement in government. There is enough in the then recent history to tell us what was expected of the TCs in Cyprus Boomers and we would number zero now if that were to have happened. Cyprus would be another Greek island. I also believe that if Turkey was not a threat then the killing would have been total genocide. Nothing is that simple Boomers and I have no intention of looking at this as a single and final event. many aspects with the TCs as the victims in the middle. Sure there were some that wanted other things but they could not get that without Turkey but the Megali idea and ENOSIS was very achievable by Makarios and his henchmen.....
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Postby boomerang » Tue Mar 11, 2008 3:10 am

too many "ifs" and "buts" Zan...there is no crystal ball...

The question is was 800 deaths considered a genoside, and if it was, then 100 people is a lot of people as Makarios said...
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Postby zan » Tue Mar 11, 2008 3:22 am

boomerang wrote:too many "ifs" and "buts" Zan...there is no crystal ball...

The question is was 800 deaths considered a genoside, and if it was, then 100 people is a lot of people as Makarios said...


Perhaps a Medium is needed rather than a crystal ball Boomers and then you could ask Makarios what he thinks constitutes a genocide. :lol: :lol:


My brother inlaws family experienced a genocide in his village when Sampson rounded them up and shot all the menfolk and imprisoned his mother and sisters. My family was starving and was forced off the island. One minute you guys say you fought the Coupists and tooth and nail and then claim only 100 dead.......When you start making sense then please take all of this and let me know what you really think because at the moment all you are doing is a "GR", to coin a phrase......Waffling!!!! :wink: :lol: Night night!!!
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Postby boomerang » Tue Mar 11, 2008 4:44 am

zan wrote:
boomerang wrote:too many "ifs" and "buts" Zan...there is no crystal ball...

The question is was 800 deaths considered a genoside, and if it was, then 100 people is a lot of people as Makarios said...


Perhaps a Medium is needed rather than a crystal ball Boomers and then you could ask Makarios what he thinks constitutes a genocide. :lol: :lol:


My brother inlaws family experienced a genocide in his village when Sampson rounded them up and shot all the menfolk and imprisoned his mother and sisters. My family was starving and was forced off the island. One minute you guys say you fought the Coupists and tooth and nail and then claim only 100 dead.......When you start making sense then please take all of this and let me know what you really think because at the moment all you are doing is a "GR", to coin a phrase......Waffling!!!! :wink: :lol: Night night!!!


Zan you claimed, your side, genoside before the invasion, 63-74, not after the invasion...

Refer to ATCA for clarification if you like...

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Postby Expatkiwi » Tue Mar 11, 2008 6:52 am

Zan,

You'd best be careful. By telling certain people on this forum that Greek Cypriots actually killed people (gasp!), you're threatening their view that the G/C's were all tree-hugging peace embracing pacifists who believed in eternal love and brotherhood...
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Postby boomerang » Tue Mar 11, 2008 8:38 am

Expatkiwi wrote:Zan,

You'd best be careful. By telling certain people on this forum that Greek Cypriots actually killed people (gasp!), you're threatening their view that the G/C's were all tree-hugging peace embracing pacifists who believed in eternal love and brotherhood...


At this point I need to question your IQ...

If you were to read the whole thread you would realise your point has nothing to do with the price of fish...

Here is a more likely forum for you...something closer to home
http://www.adultsheepfinder.com/
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Postby halil » Tue Mar 11, 2008 3:20 pm

AVCI SAYS KIPRIANU’S STATEMENTS DO NOT CONTRIBUTE TO SOLUTION.
Deputy Prime Minister – Foreign Minister Turgay Avci has criticized the Greek Cypriot Foreign Minister Markos Kiprianu for his latest statements, which he said, are not contributing to the efforts aimed at creating a positive atmosphere both in Cyprus and in the international arena.

In a written statement, Mr Avci called Kiprianu’s latest statement published in a Greek Cypriot newspaper as `unfortunate`.

Criticizing the Greek Cypriot Foreign Minister for making baseless claims, Mr Avci said `his baseless claim that Turkey has understood that the Annan Plan stayed in the past – has revealed his approach to the Cyprus problem and the attitude to be adopted by him to the negotiations expected to started.

`On one hand, Mr Kiprianu is trying to present Turkey as their collocutor ignoring the existence of the Turkish Cypriot Side which will be the co-founder of a federation, while on the other is talking about the establishment of a federation` he said.

The Foreign Minister said that Kiprianu statement in which he said nothing against the former Greek Cypriot Leader Tassos Papadopulos while making an evaluation of the non-solution of the problem – was not giving hope for a solution.

He said that Kiprianu’s words that there would be no change in the Greek Cypriot Side’s approach to the Cyprus problem were also diminishing the hopes for a solution.

`We hope that the new Greek Cypriot Administration will abandon the approach that has been preventing the solution of the Cyprus problem and will accept the fact that the democratic institutions set up with the free will of the Turkish Cypriot people as its collocutor` he noted.
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Postby boomerang » Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:56 pm

On one hand, Mr Kiprianu is trying to present Turkey as their collocutor ignoring the existence of the Turkish Cypriot Side which will be the co-founder of a federation, while on the other is talking about the establishment of a federation` he said.


Kiprianou is right...They don't pay you, with what you call aid, to think...They pay you to do what you are told...get this right...

There is no free lunch I am afraid...
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Postby zan » Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:11 pm

boomerang wrote:
zan wrote:
boomerang wrote:too many "ifs" and "buts" Zan...there is no crystal ball...

The question is was 800 deaths considered a genoside, and if it was, then 100 people is a lot of people as Makarios said...


Perhaps a Medium is needed rather than a crystal ball Boomers and then you could ask Makarios what he thinks constitutes a genocide. :lol: :lol:


My brother inlaws family experienced a genocide in his village when Sampson rounded them up and shot all the menfolk and imprisoned his mother and sisters. My family was starving and was forced off the island. One minute you guys say you fought the Coupists and tooth and nail and then claim only 100 dead.......When you start making sense then please take all of this and let me know what you really think because at the moment all you are doing is a "GR", to coin a phrase......Waffling!!!! :wink: :lol: Night night!!!


Zan you claimed, your side, genoside before the invasion, 63-74, not after the invasion...

Refer to ATCA for clarification if you like...

sweet dreams


Wanna give me some idea as to what the hell you are talking about Boomers.....My brother inlaws story was in 1963...You have started talking in riddles mate......
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Postby halil » Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:13 pm

AVCI: “EFFORTS TO PREVENT OPENING OF TRNC OFFICE IN TEL AVIV IS A CLEAR INDICATION THAT GC MENTALITY HAD NOT CHANGED”

Deputy Prime Minister-Foreign Minister Turgay Avci has said that attempts by the Greek Cypriot Administration to prevent the opening of a TRNC tourism and commerce office in Tel Aviv, Israel is an open indication that the Greek Cypriot Sides’ mentality on the Cyprus Issue has not changed.
In a written statement today, the Foreign Minister said that the efforts launched by the Greek Cypriot representative to Israel, George Zodiates to prevent the opening of the office had a negative impact on the political atmosphere on the island at a time when efforts to resume the Cyprus negotiations process was intensifying.

Pointing out that Greek Cypriot representative had put himself in a silly position by claiming that the ferry services to and from the TRNC were illegal, despite the fact that the EU had repeatedly made it clear that all TRNC ports were legal, Avci said that such statements was an indication that the Greek Cypriot Side will continue to resort to such manipulative tactics as it has done so in the past.

“The mask of the Greek Cypriot Administration which claimed to have adopted a peaceful and pro-solution stance after the elections has fallen unveiling its true intentions” added the Foreign Minister.

Foreign Minister Avci also stressed that they will not allow the Greek Cypriot Side, which works to crush the Turkish Cypriot people economically, socially and politically at every opportunity it gets, to succeed.

“The Turkish Cypriot people continue to remain committed towards a solution with all its good will” he said, adding that it was not possible to achieve a political settlement in Cyprus with just the efforts of one side alone.
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