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What went on between the 20/7 and 14/8 1974?

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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Mar 10, 2008 10:12 pm

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74LB wrote:The TC's did not have a prayer of achieving anything (except their own slaughter) if they had decided to act in defence of Makarios and his supporters, and if anyone believes otherwise, then they must be bonkers !

Leaving the TCs aside ... why did Turkey not only ignore the plight of the GCs that were effectively being "invaded" by the coupists ... but also went out of her way to slaughter them in the thousands, whilst they were obviously already weakened ... :(

.... thus effectively showing it cared more for the acquisition of Cyprus, than fulfilling its role as a guarantor.


I was in Famagusta at the time so cannot tell you what went on in Girne suffice to say that the landings of Turkish troops must have been horrendous for all involved. Once the shooting started, no doubt all hell broke loose.

I know that my village just on the outskirts of Famagusta was attacked by Greeks/GC's with tanks, mortars and gunfire on the morning of 20th July 74 and there was not a single Turkish soldier in sight.


It was the ferocity of the GC attack on the Turkish troops landing on the beaches in Kyrenia where they took the worst loses is what fuelled the counter attack and all hell broke loose. Why didnt the GCs gree the Turkish Soldiers with flowers and accept they had arrive to restore peace and the consitituiton which had been in taters and left unresolved for 11 years with the TCs paying the highest price while the GCs had total control of not only the Government but the whole island and all its resources.
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Postby 74LB » Mon Mar 10, 2008 10:26 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
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74LB wrote:The TC's did not have a prayer of achieving anything (except their own slaughter) if they had decided to act in defence of Makarios and his supporters, and if anyone believes otherwise, then they must be bonkers !

Leaving the TCs aside ... why did Turkey not only ignore the plight of the GCs that were effectively being "invaded" by the coupists ... but also went out of her way to slaughter them in the thousands, whilst they were obviously already weakened ... :(

.... thus effectively showing it cared more for the acquisition of Cyprus, than fulfilling its role as a guarantor.


I was in Famagusta at the time so cannot tell you what went on in Girne suffice to say that the landings of Turkish troops must have been horrendous for all involved. Once the shooting started, no doubt all hell broke loose.

I know that my village just on the outskirts of Famagusta was attacked by Greeks/GC's with tanks, mortars and gunfire on the morning of 20th July 74 and there was not a single Turkish soldier in sight.


It was the ferocity of the GC attack on the Turkish troops landing on the beaches in Kyrenia where they took the worst loses is what fuelled the counter attack and all hell broke loose. Why didnt the GCs gree the Turkish Soldiers with flowers and accept they had arrive to restore peace and the consitituiton which had been in taters and left unresolved for 11 years with the TCs paying the highest price while the GCs had total control of not only the Government but the whole island and all its resources.


Bilirim gardaş, ama onlar öyle görmez :cry:
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Mar 10, 2008 10:38 pm

Viewpoint wrote:It was the ferocity of the GC attack on the Turkish troops landing on the beaches in Kyrenia where they took the worst loses is what fuelled the counter attack and all hell broke loose. Why didnt the GCs gree the Turkish Soldiers with flowers and accept they had arrive to restore peace and the consitituiton which had been in taters and left unresolved for 11 years with the TCs paying the highest price while the GCs had total control of not only the Government but the whole island and all its resources.

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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Mar 10, 2008 10:59 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:It was the ferocity of the GC attack on the Turkish troops landing on the beaches in Kyrenia where they took the worst loses is what fuelled the counter attack and all hell broke loose. Why didnt the GCs gree the Turkish Soldiers with flowers and accept they had arrive to restore peace and the consitituiton which had been in taters and left unresolved for 11 years with the TCs paying the highest price while the GCs had total control of not only the Government but the whole island and all its resources.

I don't know where you get your stories from VP but they would make a best seller... Image


Hit a nerve have I GR?
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Postby orob » Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:02 pm

Sorry, miltiades, but to say THERE WAS NO CONFLICT BETWEEN THE T/CS AND G/CS BEFORE 1974, is either naive or an attempt to rewrite history. There was conflict virtually from independence albeit low level for much of the time, but it certainly existed. Please check your facts! :x
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Postby zan » Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:36 pm

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halil wrote:Me too hoping one day ICJ will handle the events in Cyprus frm 1963 -1974 ..... that everything will be come out all the criminals will be charged and fined. Insallah......Insallah ..... Insallah


Well, dear Halil, Turkey has had a great opportunity to have the ICJ examine both the events of 1963 -1974, on the basis of her claims vis-a-vie the "illegality" of the RoC after 1963, and also the RoC claims regarding the illegality of the 1974 Turkish invasion and subsequent occupation, had it accepted just one of the RoC invitations to proceed together to the ICJ. Turkey refused! Does this ring any bells to you? It does many to me, the loudest one being that Turkey doesn’t believe nor has faith in what she claims, both for the 1963-74 period and the 1974 invasion! She simply feels what every body else in the international community does, i.e. that she has no case to prove!


Which government was she supposed to deal with matey???? The GC one in which recognition of the illegal government would have been sealed :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Postby DT. » Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:45 pm

zan wrote:
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halil wrote:Me too hoping one day ICJ will handle the events in Cyprus frm 1963 -1974 ..... that everything will be come out all the criminals will be charged and fined. Insallah......Insallah ..... Insallah


Well, dear Halil, Turkey has had a great opportunity to have the ICJ examine both the events of 1963 -1974, on the basis of her claims vis-a-vie the "illegality" of the RoC after 1963, and also the RoC claims regarding the illegality of the 1974 Turkish invasion and subsequent occupation, had it accepted just one of the RoC invitations to proceed together to the ICJ. Turkey refused! Does this ring any bells to you? It does many to me, the loudest one being that Turkey doesn’t believe nor has faith in what she claims, both for the 1963-74 period and the 1974 invasion! She simply feels what every body else in the international community does, i.e. that she has no case to prove!


Which government was she supposed to deal with matey???? The GC one in which recognition of the illegal government would have been sealed :roll: :roll: :roll:


you call us blind for not accepting the realities on the ground of a separate state recognised by no one apart from turkey...yet you call a member state of the EU and the UN as illegal.

Bifocals anyone?
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Postby orob » Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:57 pm

There's none so blind as those who will not see; there's none so deaf as will not hear!!
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:00 am

Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:It was the ferocity of the GC attack on the Turkish troops landing on the beaches in Kyrenia where they took the worst loses is what fuelled the counter attack and all hell broke loose. Why didnt the GCs gree the Turkish Soldiers with flowers and accept they had arrive to restore peace and the consitituiton which had been in taters and left unresolved for 11 years with the TCs paying the highest price while the GCs had total control of not only the Government but the whole island and all its resources.

I don't know where you get your stories from VP but they would make a best seller... Image


Hit a nerve have I GR?

No, you've hit max on the fib meter...

Let’s have a look at the ferocious GC attacks the Turks sustained during the Kyrenia landing…

http://kypros.org/Occupied_Cyprus/cypru ... 600_bg.jpg

http://kypros.org/Occupied_Cyprus/cypru ... 500_bg.gif


What about the Turkish landing at “pente-mili”? Did they encounter any resistance there?

http://kypros.org/Occupied_Cyprus/cypru ... 500_bg.gif

http://kypros.org/Occupied_Cyprus/cypru ... 600_bg.gif

You're clearly either inventing stories or have been ill informed by a junk education system, so which of the two is it?
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Postby DT. » Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:03 am

Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:It was the ferocity of the GC attack on the Turkish troops landing on the beaches in Kyrenia where they took the worst loses is what fuelled the counter attack and all hell broke loose. Why didnt the GCs gree the Turkish Soldiers with flowers and accept they had arrive to restore peace and the consitituiton which had been in taters and left unresolved for 11 years with the TCs paying the highest price while the GCs had total control of not only the Government but the whole island and all its resources.

I don't know where you get your stories from VP but they would make a best seller... Image


Hit a nerve have I GR?

No, you've hit max on the fib meter...

Let’s have a look at the ferocious GC attacks the Turks sustained during the Kyrenia landing…

http://kypros.org/Occupied_Cyprus/cypru ... 600_bg.jpg

http://kypros.org/Occupied_Cyprus/cypru ... 500_bg.gif


What about the Turkish landing at “pente-mili”? Did they encounter any resistance there?

http://kypros.org/Occupied_Cyprus/cypru ... 500_bg.gif

http://kypros.org/Occupied_Cyprus/cypru ... 600_bg.gif

You're clearly either inventing stories or have been ill informed by a junk education system, so which of the two is it?


why is there even an argument about how ferocious or not resistance to an invasion in a country was?

Turkey wanted to take peoples homes without a fight they should have invaded France!
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