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[erolz]

I have an idea for an 'experiment' for the forum and would welcome critisim and input from others on the idea.

The basic idea is to try and see how we might 'interact' _after_ a solution. My personal belief (and hope) is that after a solution - any solution - many of us would act in a very different manner to how we do currently. So the idea would be to set up a fictional 'bi communal chamber' (could be a seperate section of the forum) where we come togeahter as a civil organisation to discuss issues related to a post solutiuon Cyprus, with perhaps people suggesting 'senarios' and then members discussing these senarios on the basis that we live in a post solution Cyprus.

Of course the issue of 'what kind of solution' becomes paramount but I think the experiment could work on the basis of everyone assuming that a solution has been put in place that they do not like. Futher details can be outlined in proposed 'senarios' and different forms of solution tried out in different senarios.

I have come to this idea because I personaly find myself forced into 'polarised' views in the general discussions and I know that this gives a very distorted impression of who I am and what I am like (as it must do with others as well). Also the more I consider the Cyprus situation the more convinced I become that the most important thing is not what agreement we make (or accept) but how we behave afterwards. It will be our behaviour post a settlement that defines what sort of Cyprus we build for ourselves and those that come after us and not the agreement itself.

So what do people think of the idea? Worth a try? Glaring problems? Input is most welcome.

[Main_Source]

Good idea. You could take say two versions of what the GC perceive to be a fair solution and two versions of what TC perceive to be a fair solution...then a member of the GC side could put forward a scenario if the TC models of government were in place (so a GC could say "My biggest fear of this model would be this kinda scenario") and vice versa, then take it from there.

I hope im on the same train of thought as you erolz lol

[erolz]

I hope im on the same train of thought as you erolz lol

Pretty much, except you are clearly a gooner and thus in need of much help

[Main_Source]

At this moment in time...being second in the league and potentially being two games away from the FA Cup is not bad for a so-called disastrous season.

[magikthrill]

alright so what solution model is proceeded. first we can start with a list that upsets each side to at least some degree.

1) I know most TCs arent happy with:
a) the return of all refugees to their original homes
b) the removal of settlers
c) removal of Turkish troops
d) cross-voting


2) The things GCs arent happy with:
a) Power sharing on EVERY matter of the republic
b) The removal of Pontian settlers
c) The removal of Greek troops (not that I think they care but lets just say its something they dont like)
d) Residence restrictions

[Othellos]

So the idea would be to set up a fictional 'bi communal chamber' (could be a seperate section of the forum) where we come togeahter as a civil organisation to discuss issues related to a post solutiuon Cyprus, with perhaps people suggesting 'senarios' and then members discussing these senarios on the basis that we live in a post solution Cyprus.

It sounds like an interesting idea that is worth exploring further. If you can elaborate any further on all this, erolz, please do.

O.

[cannedmoose]

So the idea would be to set up a fictional 'bi communal chamber' (could be a seperate section of the forum) where we come togeahter as a civil organisation to discuss issues related to a post solutiuon Cyprus, with perhaps people suggesting 'senarios' and then members discussing these senarios on the basis that we live in a post solution Cyprus.

It sounds like an interesting idea that is worth exploring further. If you can elaborate any further on all this, erolz, please do.

O.

Maybe this discussion could be linked to this thread?

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=1636

Effectively the 'chat room' could be the 'debating chamber'?

[erolz]

It sounds like an interesting idea that is worth exploring further. If you can elaborate any further on all this, erolz, please do.

O.

Well I did not want to present a 'finished' idea as this kind of thing would only be of use if others are interested and engaged in the experiment so having them alos shape the experiment itself is done in the hope that it helps others ro 'engage' with the idea.

Really the idea is to 'role play' how we might behave after a solution, much like sales training course and others use role play. The hope would be that this will be informative to all in ways that the polarised pre solution discussions frequently fail to be (in my humble opinion).

Having said the above I think there may need to be some agreed 'rules' for how the experiment is run. One that I can think off is that it may be necessary to have some for of identity for the particpants of the experiment. I am thinking along these lines simply to try and avoid any possibility of the experiment being undermined by trolls, spoliers or people who want to show that coopertation and compromise is not possible post a solution. Identity does not have to be 'severe' - it could be little more than a track record in the main forum. Another possible idea would be for each community to role play 'electing' 2 or 3 represntatives from their community to then become part of the role playing civil bi communal chamber. Such an election could be an interesting experiment in itself. One futher possibility would be to have a role of 'dungeon master' (for anyone familure with D&D games) which could be a different person at different times. The dungeon masters (DM) job would be to try and help the role players get as much value from the role playing experiment. The DM would add detail to the senario, decide on outcomes (in order to progress the role playing not in order to make one side 'win') and the such like. Maybe even our illustrious Admin might consider a go at being DM for a role playing session? Anyway these are my ideas. They are purposely vague and actively invite and encourage input from others. All in all I personally think there could be value to be gained from such an experiment, above and beyond that which is gained just from the standard forum discussions alone. However it would require some effort and that is always hard to secure.

[MicAtCyp]

Well heres one scenario\:
According to the agreement many TCs and settlers should be rehoused so the original GC owners return.
First scenario: Houses get empty but the owners dont return!Not because anyone forbits them but because they are settled already.Some go there only on weekends.
Second scenario:The re-housing project delays and delays as there are no money.The GC refugees go in the streets demonstrating..Together with them the rich TC refugees who left substantial properties behind and want to return.

[erolz]

Well heres one scenario\:

Yes that is the kind of thing I envisioned. I am sure there are many interesting senarios that could be used in such an experiment.

So what do people think? Shall we give this experiment a go or not?