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[BirKibrisli]

It is not every day that I read an article I feel like translating in full...
This one,by Serhat Incirli,from the London Post,but writing in the Afrika newspaper,deserves to be read in full...So enjoy...


How can we find a solution???
What is the reason for the lack of one?
Or,Who is the least to blame for the state of affairs???
Answer these questions,and the solution will follow...

For Denktash and his Cronies the answer was ready and clear.
There was no solution because of the GCs intransigent attitude...
And Turkey was the least to blame...
The GCs wanted to eat us for breakfast...
Turkey came and saved our skin.
Hence everything we found in the North was our God-given right...
We should demand what we left in the South as well.
This was taught to us in Cyprus for years.
The GCs were aggressive...
The GCs were murderers...
The GCs were all bad...
We were the innocent ones.
The murder-victims...
The good guys.
We had no faults...
Yep,these were what we were taught.
There were no flies on us.
The highway robbers were the GCs...
They wanted ENOSIS...
They drew up the Akritas Plan.
They wanted war.
We did absolutely nothing wrong...
Never blocked a road,never shot anyone...
Never smuggled arms into Cyprus...
The boat "Yavuz" was not ours.
The GCs attacked us,so Turkey had the right to come...and stay.
The GCs were guilty,so their properties legally became our "ganimet"(war trophy)...
All this was drilled into our heads by Denktash and the Turkish "deep state"...
GCs bad,TCs good.
Could you call Turkey "an occupier"?
Not possible,brother...
Turkey came,innocently and without any hidden motives,to save us from GC cruelty...
Why wasn't she leaving???
Pulling back after completing her duty as a guarantor???
Denktash had a simple answer: If Turkey left they'd .... our mothers!
I can't spell it out but you know what I mean...
Without Turkey we cannot protect our honour,Rauf Bey used to say.
Remember?
It came naturally to Denktash and his Cronies.
It was their job,after all!

But to hear all this from Talat and his CTP administration was unthinkable...
They were expected to say a few things about the "ganimet",but they didnt...
"Do you expect us to live in tin shacks", said Talat's spokesperson himself.
They didn't say," We shed blood,so the land belongs to us" at least...

We saw that the blame game,and punishing the guilty,did not get us anywhere.
But we didn't learn our lesson obviously.

The GCs now have a new, progressive,pro-solution leader.
At least the World thinks so!
Do what you like,the "Tassos" excuse will not work for the World.
Things have to change...
What are we to do???
We should sit down and negotiate a Federal solution a.s.a.p...
Without delay.
Let Christofias call Turkey "occupier".
What did you expect? To call Turkey "saviour"??? for God's sake!
It's time for logical thinking.
Lets stop the blame game.
What is logical and legal is obvious...
Lets try to achieve that.
Lets not waste our time using the Denktash mentality.
Don't expect Christofias to say," You know, that TRNC flag on the mountains look great at night!I will give you money to make it shine brighter..."
Or,"Okey,my dears,You have your state We have ours;lets have a pool party once a week,eat drink and be merry!"
And don't expect "We don't really want Varosia or Morphou back...Lets bring more settlers from Turkey and make them citizens!"....
Or, "Help yourself to Paphos too,we don't really need it..."
Please...Please friends...
The solution is obvious...
The last stop is a Federation...
The alternative is "no solution"...

[karma]

The question is, How many Serhats do u have in North?? I am afraid it is only U and him

[BirKibrisli]

The question is, How many Serhats do u have in North?? I am afraid it is only U and him

Well,Precious....He lives in London and I live in Sydney...
So, how many does that leave in the North????

[Kikapu]

It is not every day that I read an article I feel like translating in full...
This one,by Serhat Incirli,from the London Post,but writing in the Afrika newspaper,deserves to be read in full...So enjoy...


How can we find a solution???
What is the reason for the lack of one?
Or,Who is the least to blame for the state of affairs???
Answer these questions,and the solution will follow...

For Denktash and his Cronies the answer was ready and clear.
There was no solution because of the GCs intransigent attitude...
And Turkey was the least to blame...
The GCs wanted to eat us for breakfast...
Turkey came and saved our skin.
Hence everything we found in the North was our God-given right...
We should demand what we left in the South as well.
This was taught to us in Cyprus for years.
The GCs were aggressive...
The GCs were murderers...
The GCs were all bad...
We were the innocent ones.
The murder-victims...
The good guys.
We had no faults...
Yep,these were what we were taught.
There were no flies on us.
The highway robbers were the GCs...
They wanted ENOSIS...
They drew up the Akritas Plan.
They wanted war.
We did absolutely nothing wrong...
Never blocked a road,never shot anyone...
Never smuggled arms into Cyprus...
The boat "Yavuz" was not ours.
The GCs attacked us,so Turkey had the right to come...and stay.
The GCs were guilty,so their properties legally became our "ganimet"(war trophy)...
All this was drilled into our heads by Denktash and the Turkish "deep state"...
GCs bad,TCs good.
Could you call Turkey "an occupier"?
Not possible,brother...
Turkey came,innocently and without any hidden motives,to save us from GC cruelty...
Why wasn't she leaving???
Pulling back after completing her duty as a guarantor???
Denktash had a simple answer: If Turkey left they'd .... our mothers!
I can't spell it out but you know what I mean...
Without Turkey we cannot protect our honour,Rauf Bey used to say.
Remember?
It came naturally to Denktash and his Cronies.
It was their job,after all!

But to hear all this from Talat and his CTP administration was unthinkable...
They were expected to say a few things about the "ganimet",but they didnt...
"Do you expect us to live in tin shacks", said Talat's spokesperson himself.
They didn't say," We shed blood,so the land belongs to us" at least...

We saw that the blame game,and punishing the guilty,did not get us anywhere.
But we didn't learn our lesson obviously.

The GCs now have a new, progressive,pro-solution leader.
At least the World thinks so!
Do what you like,the "Tassos" excuse will not work for the World.
Things have to change...
What are we to do???
We should sit down and negotiate a Federal solution a.s.a.p...
Without delay.
Let Christofias call Turkey "occupier".
What did you expect? To call Turkey "saviour"??? for God's sake!
It's time for logical thinking.
Lets stop the blame game.
What is logical and legal is obvious...
Lets try to achieve that.
Lets not waste our time using the Denktash mentality.
Don't expect Christofias to say," You know, that TRNC flag on the mountains look great at night!I will give you money to make it shine brighter..."
Or,"Okey,my dears,You have your state We have ours;lets have a pool party once a week,eat drink and be merry!"
And don't expect "We don't really want Varosia or Morphou back...Lets bring more settlers from Turkey and make them citizens!"....
Or, "Help yourself to Paphos too,we don't really need it..."
Please...Please friends...
The solution is obvious...
The last stop is a Federation...
The alternative is "no solution"...

Nice one Bir,

I swear this is something I would have written.........come to think of it, I have many of times.

I think Zan and VP definitely qualify as Denktash's cronies.

[iceman]

I know Serhat in person....I knew him before he moved to UK...
He pays a heavy price for being an open minded journalist..he cannot come to north Cyprus..
He would get arrested if he did.

[Brittania]

I know Serhat in person....I knew him before he moved to UK...
He pays a heavy price for being an open minded journalist..he cannot come to north Cyprus..
He would get arrested if he did.

what would he get arrested for iceman?

[Kikapu]

I know Serhat in person....I knew him before he moved to UK...
He pays a heavy price for being an open minded journalist..he cannot come to north Cyprus..
He would get arrested if he did.

Really Iceman,

Halil told me recently that there is a open press in the North as well as free speech and better democracy than Switzerland..........

Just exactly on who's wife did Serhat hit on to be banned from the North Iceman, or was Halil trying to sell me
"Ocean property in Arizona" again with his stories.??

[Brittania]

Rule 275 in fools guide on disussions: Never use an honest answer from an adversary against him or his colleagues. It might end up being the last honest answer you'll get.

[Kikapu]

Rule 275 in fools guide on disussions: Never use an honest answer from an adversary against him or his colleagues. It might end up being the last honest answer you'll get.

You know Brittania, I stopped reading that fools guide at Rule 274.

I also stopped naming soft drinks at "6up".

My tough luck I guess for not going on to the next number in both cases.

[Brittania]

Rule 275 in fools guide on disussions: Never use an honest answer from an adversary against him or his colleagues. It might end up being the last honest answer you'll get.

You know Brittania, I stopped reading that fools guide at Rule 274.

I also stopped naming soft drinks at "6up".

My tough luck I guess for not going on to the next number in both cases.

poor thing. Guess you only reached up to 68 as well.