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[eracles]

Posted this in another thread but thought it was worth posting here.
This is about whether Talat is playing dirty from the word go - trying to put christofias in a difficult position (with the gcs) and playing the same old tired game he played (and won?) with tpap - 'the pr game'.

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.ph ... 0&cat_id=1

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Has Talat grown so comfortable sitting on the moral high ground that he is not even willing to allow a new peace drive to succeed? Is he already taking steps to ensure failure? This is the impression given by his insistence that the talks should be based on the Annan plan and that the new state should emanate from a ‘virgin birth’. Does making these views public knowledge serve any useful purpose, other than as preparation for the blame-game that invariably follows deadlock? Talat is not exactly helping cultivate a positive climate by setting his stall out and giving ammunition to Greek Cypriots opposed to a settlement, to turn the screw on Christofias before the two have even met.
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This is the game ankara calls two-steps

[Kifeas]

Posted this in another thread but thought it was worth posting here.
This is about whether Talat is playing dirty from the word go - trying to put christofias in a difficult position (with the gcs) and playing the same old tired game he played (and won?) with tpap - 'the pr game'.

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.ph ... 0&cat_id=1

Excerpt:
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Has Talat grown so comfortable sitting on the moral high ground that he is not even willing to allow a new peace drive to succeed? Is he already taking steps to ensure failure? This is the impression given by his insistence that the talks should be based on the Annan plan and that the new state should emanate from a ‘virgin birth’. Does making these views public knowledge serve any useful purpose, other than as preparation for the blame-game that invariably follows deadlock? Talat is not exactly helping cultivate a positive climate by setting his stall out and giving ammunition to Greek Cypriots opposed to a settlement, to turn the screw on Christofias before the two have even met.
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This is the game ankara calls two-steps

Goodmorning from your deep sleep, to all those claiming that it was all down to Papadopoulo's so-called non-solution "tactics!" Good wake up, and good morning!

[DT.]

Posted this in another thread but thought it was worth posting here.
This is about whether Talat is playing dirty from the word go - trying to put christofias in a difficult position (with the gcs) and playing the same old tired game he played (and won?) with tpap - 'the pr game'.

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.ph ... 0&cat_id=1

Excerpt:
"
Has Talat grown so comfortable sitting on the moral high ground that he is not even willing to allow a new peace drive to succeed? Is he already taking steps to ensure failure? This is the impression given by his insistence that the talks should be based on the Annan plan and that the new state should emanate from a ‘virgin birth’. Does making these views public knowledge serve any useful purpose, other than as preparation for the blame-game that invariably follows deadlock? Talat is not exactly helping cultivate a positive climate by setting his stall out and giving ammunition to Greek Cypriots opposed to a settlement, to turn the screw on Christofias before the two have even met.
"

This is the game ankara calls two-steps

Goodmorning from your deep sleep, to all those claiming that it was all down to Papadopoulo's so-called non-solution "tactics!" Good wake up, and good morning!

Since the Turks where never gonna play ball...why provide them with the perfect camouflage then? WHy didn't he just shut up and let the TC's shoot themselves in the foot the whole time then?

[observer]

And Christofias has been talking too

Christofias said Monday that he was committed to seeking a settlement but that the key to a deal was in Ankara.

"We are full of good will to break the deadlock to solve the Cyprus problem," Christofias said. "Turkey, however, is the occupying force, and that is the crux of the Cyprus problem."

So are we to assume that Christofias is a new Papadopoulos with better PR?

Politicians talk. Journalists speculate. I repeat what I said on another thread. Give the pair of them slack to negotiate.

[Brittania]

I sincerely fear that a solution of the complexity that is required is beyond both of their intellectual capacities.

What does an electrical engineer and a SOviet styled political enthusiast have to do with 5,000 pages of complicated legalise?

[observer]

Sometimes it is good to have a problem solved by people who do not get immersed in detail.

Taking a lesson from the Macedonians (joke) remember how Alexander the Great solved the equally complicated problem of the Gordian knot.

[Nikitas]

That Gordian knot story has had me in a quandary for years. Was the cutting of the knot a show of philosophical refinemnet or was it just the brainless act of a barbarian? Alexander never solved the riddle, he did away with it using his sword. The lesson drawn from that act is what?

But to his credit, he did not say puzzles that cannot be solved are cut, he said bonds that camnot be untied should be cut. And if that is really what he said, then there may be a lesson in there.

[observer]

I didn't know the second part. How interesting. Thank you.