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[souroul]

one day kidnap the negotiations committee from both sides and toss them in a hotel until they find a solution. no exterior interference. just maybe a mediator team from all the members of the security council to just maybe throw in an opinion about what sounds fair and what not

[paliometoxo]

forcing a solution as we found in the past does not help

[utu]

forcing a solution as we found in the past does not help

The problem though, Paliometoxo, is that if neither side wants to come to a solution (and a solution for Cyprus is going to entail give-and-take on both sides), a third party is going to be needed to push one through. Didn't someone say that the art of diplomacy entails leaving both sides dis-satisfied to some degree?

[DT.]

forcing a solution as we found in the past does not help

The problem though, Paliometoxo, is that if neither side wants to come to a solution (and a solution for Cyprus is going to entail give-and-take on both sides), a third party is going to be needed to push one through. Didn't someone say that the art of diplomacy entails leaving both sides dis-satisfied to some degree?

If neither side wants a solution then there won't be a need for one.

You can't force a solution to the people.

[Oracle]

one day kidnap the negotiations committee from both sides and toss them in a hotel until they find a solution. no exterior interference. just maybe a mediator team from all the members of the security council to just maybe throw in an opinion about what sounds fair and what not

Who are the "negotiations committee"?

Would they be allowed room service?

[Tim Drayton]

forcing a solution as we found in the past does not help

The problem though, Paliometoxo, is that if neither side wants to come to a solution (and a solution for Cyprus is going to entail give-and-take on both sides), a third party is going to be needed to push one through. Didn't someone say that the art of diplomacy entails leaving both sides dis-satisfied to some degree?

I think it is third party intervention that has always been at the root of the Cyprus problem. Ever since the Zurich and London Agreements, which were imposed from the outside, all the initiatives that have been launched to clear up the mess, such as the Acheson Plan and all the United Nations initiatives such as Gali's Set of Ideas and the Annan Plan, share one thing in common. They involve outsiders coming in and telling Cypriots how they should run their affairs.

The Cyprus problem can only be solved by Cypriots. Any other approach breaches the principle of self determination. This time, let the representatives of the two main communities on the island come together and produce a settlement with no external interference. The rest of the world should then respect the result as being the expression of Cypriots' right to self determination. Even if the conclusion is that both communities should henceforth go their own ways. I am hopeful that now both communities are represented by the left, reunification has a chance.

[purdey]

SOLUTION....Pull out the UN,leave the Green Line.Let them get on with it.
Too much talk not enough action,both sides have had their chances and have not acted.

[Jerry]

forcing a solution as we found in the past does not help

The problem though, Paliometoxo, is that if neither side wants to come to a solution (and a solution for Cyprus is going to entail give-and-take on both sides), a third party is going to be needed to push one through. Didn't someone say that the art of diplomacy entails leaving both sides dis-satisfied to some degree?

I think it is third party intervention that has always been at the root of the Cyprus problem. Ever since the Zurich and London Agreements, which were imposed from the outside, all the initiatives that have been launched to clear up the mess, such as the Acheson Plan and all the United Nations initiatives such as Gali's Set of Ideas and the Annan Plan, share one thing in common. They involve outsiders coming in and telling Cypriots how they should run their affairs.

The Cyprus problem can only be solved by Cypriots. Any other approach breaches the principle of self determination. This time, let the representatives of the two main communities on the island come together and produce a settlement with no external interference. The rest of the world should then respect the result as being the expression of Cypriots' right to self determination. Even if the conclusion is that both communities should henceforth go their own ways. I am hopeful that now both communities are represented by the left, reunification has a chance.

It may be a good idea to attempt a solution without outside interference but outside influence will always be there, for example Turkey's proximity to the island, the fact that there are 40,000 Turkish soldiers on the island and ROC's membership of the EU. Both sides will always try to use these "strengths" to their advantage. The fairest way would be to start with a blank sheet of paper and for an international (no Greeks, Turks, Brits or Americans) court to impose a constitution based on recognised democratic principles - guess who would oppose such a proposal

[Nikitas]

Purdey wrote:

"SOLUTION....Pull out the UN,leave the Green Line.Let them get on with it. "

With 40 000 Turkish soldiers and 400 tanks in the north that sounds more like a recipe for disaster than a solution method. Similar to throwing a terrier in a barrel with a badger, if you know what I mean.

[purdey]

That old bone has been chewed over too many times.Turkey has no intention of invading Southern Cyprus with or without the Green Line.
I am afraid the Green Line is a convenient excuse for prolonging the Cyprus Problem...