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Postby GorillaGal » Mon Mar 03, 2008 11:56 pm

Niki wrote:You are an inspiration.

A close family member of mine is going through Chemo right now and she just had her head shaved by a best friend while they were getting p***ed! This is her second time. A great way to do things! 8)


perspiration, yes; inspiration, no. :roll:
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Postby LENA » Tue Mar 04, 2008 10:32 pm

I cannot imagine how hard is for the family to know that one of the members is going to die and live through that emotion...wake up and sleep with the question when that moment will come. I wish my self for a sudden death instead of putting my into that grief.

Today I got some really bad news. One of my friends mother has died after a long fight with cancer. He was living the last few months with the fear of the bad news, he hated his phone when the call came from home because he fear that the news wont be the same as the last phone call..... :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
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Postby miltiades » Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:11 pm

GorillaGal wrote:
Niki wrote:You are an inspiration.

A close family member of mine is going through Chemo right now and she just had her head shaved by a best friend while they were getting p***ed! This is her second time. A great way to do things! 8)


perspiration, yes; inspiration, no. :roll:

I'm sorry to hear that GG , You havent said what the problem with your lungs is but from what I gather its not cancer , is this correct ?
I'm thinking is asthma, emphysema or chronic bronchitis.
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Postby GorillaGal » Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:15 pm

Lena, i am sorry fo your friend's loss, and yours.
i think we all hope to have a quick and painless death, but sometimes knowing that time is going to come is a good thing for the family. when my mother died, i had 14 months to prepare for it. never having lost anyone that close to me, it gave me the time i needed to learn about death and dying (i read alot of books on the subject to prepare myself). also it gave me time to say what i had to with my mom, and ask her all the questions i had. in my case, i was my mother's least favorite child, yet i was the one to take care of her, while my sisters were off doing...whatever it is they did.... it was a wonderful time for my mother and i to finally bond. i am sorry my mom had to suffer, but having that time with her really made her realise, and let me know, that i was an ok person after all.
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Postby GorillaGal » Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:17 pm

miltiades wrote:
GorillaGal wrote:
Niki wrote:You are an inspiration.

A close family member of mine is going through Chemo right now and she just had her head shaved by a best friend while they were getting p***ed! This is her second time. A great way to do things! 8)


perspiration, yes; inspiration, no. :roll:

I'm sorry to hear that GG , You havent said what the problem with your lungs is but from what I gather its not cancer , is this correct ?
I'm thinking is asthma, emphysema or chronic bronchitis.


i have pulmonary fibrosis. it is in remission. i beleive it was caused by breathing in the chemicals we used to sterilize instruments during the 11 years i was a dental assistant in one particular office. we will never know for sure. the point is, that my lungs, at present, have stopped turning into fibric tumors.
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Postby LENA » Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:26 pm

GorillaGal wrote:Lena, i am sorry fo your friend's loss, and yours.
i think we all hope to have a quick and painless death, but sometimes knowing that time is going to come is a good thing for the family. when my mother died, i had 14 months to prepare for it. never having lost anyone that close to me, it gave me the time i needed to learn about death and dying (i read alot of books on the subject to prepare myself). also it gave me time to say what i had to with my mom, and ask her all the questions i had. in my case, i was my mother's least favorite child, yet i was the one to take care of her, while my sisters were off doing...whatever it is they did.... it was a wonderful time for my mother and i to finally bond. i am sorry my mom had to suffer, but having that time with her really made her realise, and let me know, that i was an ok person after all.


Thanks GG, but for me it doesnt work like that. Death is the only thing that I cannot cope very well with, in fact I cannot cope with it at all. I spend 2 years to get used to the idea of my grandmothers death and stop dreaming of her which totally freaked me out. I avoid funerals as much as I can and thank God I did not have to attend in any for few years now. I cannot imagine the grief people go through every day for months until the end of their beloved ones. I think if I knew something like that for a close friend or a member of my family will kill me first. I admire the one who stand by their side strong and ready to encourage them. Most of the times I've seen the patients give courage to the rest and not the opposite.
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Postby miltiades » Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:34 pm

GorillaGal wrote:
miltiades wrote:
GorillaGal wrote:
Niki wrote:You are an inspiration.

A close family member of mine is going through Chemo right now and she just had her head shaved by a best friend while they were getting p***ed! This is her second time. A great way to do things! 8)


perspiration, yes; inspiration, no. :roll:

I'm sorry to hear that GG , You havent said what the problem with your lungs is but from what I gather its not cancer , is this correct ?
I'm thinking is asthma, emphysema or chronic bronchitis.


i have pulmonary fibrosis. it is in remission. i beleive it was caused by breathing in the chemicals we used to sterilize instruments during the 11 years i was a dental assistant in one particular office. we will never know for sure. the point is, that my lungs, at present, have stopped turning into fibric tumors.

In the US THERE ARE MORE THAN 200 Thousand sufferers .
"""Traditional theories have postulated that it might be an autoimmune disorder, or the after effects of an infection, viral in nature. There is a growing body of evidence which points to a genetic predisposition. A mutation in the SP-C protein has been found to exist in families with a history of Pulmonary Fibrosis. The most current thinking is that the fibrotic process is a reaction to microscopic injury to the lung. While the exact cause remains unknown, associations have been made with the following:
Inhaled environmental and occupational pollutants ""
Cigarette smoking GR BE WARNED !!
I have a friend aged 40 who also suffers from above but copes very well , used to run a Retaurant and was a smoker . A changed enviroment has contributed greatly to her problem .
All the best GG , thinking of you kid !!!
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Postby GorillaGal » Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:37 pm

LENA wrote:
GorillaGal wrote:Lena, i am sorry fo your friend's loss, and yours.
i think we all hope to have a quick and painless death, but sometimes knowing that time is going to come is a good thing for the family. when my mother died, i had 14 months to prepare for it. never having lost anyone that close to me, it gave me the time i needed to learn about death and dying (i read alot of books on the subject to prepare myself). also it gave me time to say what i had to with my mom, and ask her all the questions i had. in my case, i was my mother's least favorite child, yet i was the one to take care of her, while my sisters were off doing...whatever it is they did.... it was a wonderful time for my mother and i to finally bond. i am sorry my mom had to suffer, but having that time with her really made her realise, and let me know, that i was an ok person after all.


Thanks GG, but for me it doesnt work like that. Death is the only thing that I cannot cope very well with, in fact I cannot cope with it at all. I spend 2 years to get used to the idea of my grandmothers death and stop dreaming of her which totally freaked me out. I avoid funerals as much as I can and thank God I did not have to attend in any for few years now. I cannot imagine the grief people go through every day for months until the end of their beloved ones. I think if I knew something like that for a close friend or a member of my family will kill me first. I admire the one who stand by their side strong and ready to encourage them. Most of the times I've seen the patients give courage to the rest and not the opposite.


death is part of life, and it is not the end. if you were dreaming of your grandmother, perhaps she was coming to comfort you to let you know she was ok. my mother was afraid of dying, and i used to try to comfort her by telling her that we were there now, and when it was time for her to cross over, she should go to the light, and those who had died before her (her friends and family members) would be there on the other side to help her and welcome her. and i would always end it by telling her that when she gets to the light, "make sure you put in a good word for me!"
the day after her funeral, i went to a psychic, who made you think of your questions--not verbally tell her, and she told you the answers. she did not know i had just lost my mother. anyway, one of my questions was a very general question about my mom, and the answer was "the message has been delivered." she asked me if that meant anything to me, and i said yes. i know my mom got to the otehr said, and put in that good word fo me!

i also had a friend that died of a heart attack about 3 years ago. he came to me in a dream to say goodbye. i knew he was dead, and asked him what he was doing here, and he said he had to finish something with a kid he knew. he was always involved with children, a very generous man when it came to kids. i asked him a little about what it was like on the other side, and told him he could come back anytime. when i woke up, i could feel he was still standing next to my bed. i used to sleep naked, i won't do that anymore...just in case he wants to come back.

may i suggest any books by Raymond Moody. he is the forefather of the Near Death Experiences. it is quiet interesting, and not at all scarey.
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Postby GorillaGal » Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:39 pm

miltiades wrote:
GorillaGal wrote:
miltiades wrote:
GorillaGal wrote:
Niki wrote:You are an inspiration.

A close family member of mine is going through Chemo right now and she just had her head shaved by a best friend while they were getting p***ed! This is her second time. A great way to do things! 8)


perspiration, yes; inspiration, no. :roll:

I'm sorry to hear that GG , You havent said what the problem with your lungs is but from what I gather its not cancer , is this correct ?
I'm thinking is asthma, emphysema or chronic bronchitis.


i have pulmonary fibrosis. it is in remission. i beleive it was caused by breathing in the chemicals we used to sterilize instruments during the 11 years i was a dental assistant in one particular office. we will never know for sure. the point is, that my lungs, at present, have stopped turning into fibric tumors.

In the US THERE ARE MORE THAN 200 Thousand sufferers .
"""Traditional theories have postulated that it might be an autoimmune disorder, or the after effects of an infection, viral in nature. There is a growing body of evidence which points to a genetic predisposition. A mutation in the SP-C protein has been found to exist in families with a history of Pulmonary Fibrosis. The most current thinking is that the fibrotic process is a reaction to microscopic injury to the lung. While the exact cause remains unknown, associations have been made with the following:
Inhaled environmental and occupational pollutants ""
Cigarette smoking GR BE WARNED !!
I have a friend aged 40 who also suffers from above but copes very well , used to run a Retaurant and was a smoker . A changed enviroment has contributed greatly to her problem .
All the best GG , thinking of you kid !!!


my mother was a smoker, and died of emphesema at 59.
i did smoke, but it has been way over 20 years since i smoked.
i found out when i got sick, one of the chemicals i had been inhaling because my boss did not have his equipment properly ventilated was formadyhide. that'll definatly screw with your lungs. no one else in my family has ever had pulmonary fibrosis. thanks for the info, miltiades!
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Postby miltiades » Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:56 pm

LENA wrote:
GorillaGal wrote:Lena, i am sorry fo your friend's loss, and yours.
i think we all hope to have a quick and painless death, but sometimes knowing that time is going to come is a good thing for the family. when my mother died, i had 14 months to prepare for it. never having lost anyone that close to me, it gave me the time i needed to learn about death and dying (i read alot of books on the subject to prepare myself). also it gave me time to say what i had to with my mom, and ask her all the questions i had. in my case, i was my mother's least favorite child, yet i was the one to take care of her, while my sisters were off doing...whatever it is they did.... it was a wonderful time for my mother and i to finally bond. i am sorry my mom had to suffer, but having that time with her really made her realise, and let me know, that i was an ok person after all.


Thanks GG, but for me it doesnt work like that. Death is the only thing that I cannot cope very well with, in fact I cannot cope with it at all. I spend 2 years to get used to the idea of my grandmothers death and stop dreaming of her which totally freaked me out. I avoid funerals as much as I can and thank God I did not have to attend in any for few years now. I cannot imagine the grief people go through every day for months until the end of their beloved ones. I think if I knew something like that for a close friend or a member of my family will kill me first. I admire the one who stand by their side strong and ready to encourage them. Most of the times I've seen the patients give courage to the rest and not the opposite.

My personal experience , though not true in all cases , is that a loving and supporting family can greatly enhance the prospects of fighting terminal deceases , something to always look forward in doing .
Here is a little insight into my personal experience.
When my wife was first diagnosed we were all devastated , the young doctor who broke the news was severely reprimanded by my self for the way in which he calmly announced to my wife while on her own , you have cancer and it is in a progressive stage. Don't ask me , he said , how long you have !!! What a first class idiot. I saw red when my wife related the conversation he had with her. That was in July 2002 , six years on and my wife has seen our daughter get married in Cyprus , attended the first wedding ie the civic one , saw our grand daughter born and will shortly if all well see our grand son born. Its a tough battle and very disheartening for all around the sufferer . Chemos , operations , depression , and worst of all pain , the kind of pain that only morphine can ease , personal " indignities " forced upon the sufferer by the decease , it takes courage and the hope to carry on but above all it takes the love and care of a partner that has at the uppermost of his mind the time when their life was full of laughter , no sickness , enjoyment , seeing the kids grow up and share all life's pleasures.
That is why I attach so much importance to family life and I can honestly say that what keeps my wife going is the tremendous love she has for the little one who looks so much like her .
We never discuss the ultimate inevitabilty but this last few months have been very tough and one evening she asked where I would like to be buried. I replied wherever its easier for my family , well she said , I want to be in Cyprus . .
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