Piratis wrote:Bananiot, you confuse solution with "agreement". The two are not necessarily the same, and in the case of Annan plan the two where contradictory.
A solution is the one that solves the problem that we have, not just an agreement that would make our problem bigger and even more difficult to solve by legalizing the violations against us.
I like it how easily you say that anything that the other side rejects is utopian and can not happen, but you consider our side the whore that should accept whatever. No, it is equally utopian to expect that GCs will ever accept to make their own problem bigger so TCs will solve their problem and Turkey will remove the Cyprus obstacle from her EU accession.
What happened in 2004 is just one thing. Cyprus was about to enter the EU and that would create a problem to Turkey. The change in policy by Turkey, the change of Denctash with Talat and everything else was not a coincidence, but somehting that happened as a result. The Annan plan was designed to solve the problem of Turkey (not our problem), either by legalizing the illegalities in Cyprus and removing the international voice of Cypriots and any veto powers they would have in EU, or by throwing the blame of no solution to Greek Cypriots and declaring Turkey as innocent for the problem.
We are more than willing to share this country with the TC minority in a just and proportional way. But if some expect that we will return to a system like the one of the Ottoman rule, where people were divided between low class Christians and higher class Muslims then they can forget about it. This is our island and we will sign it off to nobody. They can occupy our lands against our will like the many other invadors did, but don't hope that such arrangement can bring peace because Cypriot people can not stand slavery. (most of us at least, there are always some Bananiots)
The point is ONE and a very simple ONE.
WHY WOULD ANY GC OR TC FOR THAT MATTER ACCEPT SOMETHING THAT MIGHT MAKE THEIR CURRENT WAY OF LIFE WORSE?
Why would someone from Limassol vote for something like the AP when the only gain for the GC's is land that is nowhere near Limassol.The governing power they would give up would far outweigh any territorial gains we would make.
In my view the marketing effort needs to be done to the GC side as I consider a BBF solution as mana from heaven for the TC's. Christofias has already confirmed that any solution would be based on the political equality of the 2 communities.
As far as I'm concerned after talking with many people during the whole election process (mostly in their 30's) I sense a lack of willingness to accept the BBF anymore. Its like Bananiot said, not many people knew what was being negotiated all those years. Now they;ve seen, heard and understand that a BBF is beginning to sound like a step down in quality of life.
Bir and Miltiades make a lot of sense ....however they live abroad and are not witnessing the mood of the current population.
Bananiot is of a very small minority over here which is represented by Themistocleous in the elections (managed to gain 0.17% of the vote)
I myself await anxiously for the first statement of Talat after the first meeting. If he starts addressing the world instead of Cyprus then know that he is preparing the world to know that he is doing everything in his power and after these talks fail....he'll expect recognition.
If he addresses Cyprus then we're on a good track.