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[-mikkie2-]

"go and asked them why they used this term On behalf of the Greek Cypriot community Christofias and they didn't used on the behalf of GC's community Presidend Christofias"

If you care to study the Cyprus constitution, the President of the Republic is a Greek Cypriot and the Vice-President a Turkish Cypriot and each one is the leader of their respective communities. Any talks between the GC's and TC's are always done at the COMMUNITY level.

[Nikitas]

Prime Minister Erdogan sent a letter outlining Turkey's proposals on solving the Cyprus Problem to all EU heads of government today. To all except the President of Cyprus. So much for goodwill and turning a new leaf.

I guess it never crossed his mind to send a copy of that letter to President Christofias and Talat. The stress was on the negative as always with Turkey.

[Kikapu]

May I ask you all to leave this thread for International News only, so that members have a place to come and get unbiased news, so please take all your arguments to another thread.

Thanking you all in advance.

[halil]

they also writes :
For several decades, the UN has continuously worked to persuadethe two communities to find a viable solution to the Cyprus issue but has failed so far.

The Ledra Street, located in the heart of the old Walled City of Nicosia, has been bisected by the UN monitored Green Line since the 1960s following the violence between the two communities.

In 1983, the Turkish Cypriot authorities declared that they hadbroken away from Cyprus and set up "the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus," which is recognized only by Turkey.

On behalf of the Greek Cypriot community, Christofias will meet Turkish Cypriot leader Mehmet Ali Talat on March 21 in the UN Protected Area in Nicosia.

Kikapu ,
go and asked them why they used this term On behalf of the Greek Cypriot community Christofias and they didn't used on the behalf of GC's community Presidend Christofias .

DOn't ignore the answers I give you Halil. You know perfectly well that they're true.

President Christofias is also Chief negotiator for the GC community during he inter-communal talks. All the presidents of Cyprus since Makarios have also been the head of the GC community. Obvious, since the President is voted by the GC's.

You are also saying there is a 2 communities . (Armenians and Maronite Cypriots are integrated in to GC's community )
he is not TC's president DT ,
he is president of the GC's controled ROC . as you are saying president is voted by the GC's .We have defacto condition in Cyprus dear friend till we get solution it will go like that TC's and Turkey will call the Talat .President of the TRNC and will call the Christofias GC'S leader . Titles musn't get you upset . Any informatiom from north or Turkey will be like this . Like titles doesn't upset me you should better used to . you can not tell by using those words that news are unbiased . only GC's and Greek media from Greece says illegal bayrak , rest of the world says according to bayrak or daily kıbrıs , yenidüzen paper says .... we have good relations with all the medias all around the world also they gives referances that they got this nes from TAK ..... etc....etc......
if you cant except it .... i can post you some soda drink ....

Also is it true that Nicosia was divided at 60's not at 74 .

[DT.]

Cypriots may soon erase symbol of division
Thu Mar 13, 2008 8:09pm EDT
By Michele Kambas and Simon Bahceli

NICOSIA (Reuters) - Greek and Turkish Cypriot leaders may soon erase the most potent symbol of the island's division, by reopening a bullet-pocked crossing between the two sides closed for nearly half a century.

Hopes of ending decades of estrangement were revived after last month's election of Cyprus President Demetris Christofias, who has pledged to relaunch reunification talks.

Christofias and Turkish Cypriot leader Mehmet Ali Talat have said they will discuss the reopening of the crossing on Ledra Street, a thoroughfare running through Nicosia's old Venetian citadel, after they hold their first meeting on March 21.

"This is the most evocative induction to life in Cyprus and opening the street would be a symbolic step towards reuniting the city and its people," said a western diplomat.

Cyprus was split in two by a 1974 Turkish invasion triggered by a coup inspired by Athens. But the seeds of division go back a good deal earlier, to ethnic strife towards the end of British colonial rule, and a power-sharing government which crumbled in 1963, prompting the dispatch of a U.N. peacekeeping force.

Ledra Street was first divided in 1958, when a Turkish Cypriot group erected barriers to stop members of the community shopping at Greek Cypriot stores.

The barriers were dismantled in 1960, only to be thrown up again by the Turkish Cypriot side after intercommunal conflict in late 1963. They briefly came down in 1968, but were quickly re-erected and have remained in place ever since.

Ledra Street now runs across a corridor of abandoned buildings that snakes across Nicosia. The corridor still divides the city, although five other crossing points across the ceasefire line have been opened since 2003.

Nearly fifty years of separation have taken their toll on the part of Ledra Street in no-man's land. Vegetation pierces the masonry of graceful mansions and shops, many of which are on the verge of collapse.

If the checkpoint opens, one of the first tasks will be to shore up buildings in its immediate vicinity. The United Nations will also have to do a sweep for unexploded bombs left during past fighting.

CONTRASTS

The island's long partition has created a two-speed economy. The breakaway Turkish Cypriot north has been under restrictions preventing direct trade with the outside world for decades, while the Greek south is now in the euro zone.

The Greek Cypriot end of Ledra Street is a busy commercial hub, boasting upmarket Chinese restaurants, Starbucks, McDonalds and British retail chains.

"We want a solution, and we hope that opening this street will be a step towards that," said Greek Cypriot shoe shop owner Andreas Yiasemi, 50. "But we want a healthy settlement, not one that will lead us into arguments five years down the road."

Bustling activity abruptly ends about 500 metres down the street, giving way to an eerily quiet strip of land guarded by Greek and Turkish soldiers on both sides, and patrolled by the U.N. in the middle. Then life picks up again, albeit at a much slower pace, on the Turkish Cypriot side.

"It used to be so crowded here, we were shoulder to shoulder," said Turkish Cypriot Huseyin Sonya, 75, a former trader, as he stood in the shadow of buildings pockmarked by bullets fired decades ago. "If there is will on the part of our politicians, we can live together again, but it will take time."

The Turkish part is reminiscent of a bygone era, with few stores shops and eateries. The laughter of toddlers playing in the street echoes off long-abandoned buildings.

"God willing, the crossing will open soon and things will be better for traders here, better for us," Mehmetali Sinaoglu, 50, told Reuters as he sat on a battered chair outside his restaurant, sipping strong Turkish coffee. "At least it will be the end of this silence. It's dead around here now."

On the Greek side, some have already rushed to open shops in anticipation of the border opening. Sinaoglu's closest Greek Cypriot neighbor, about 80 metres down a road obstructed by screens erected by the military, is Elvira's Gallery.

Wedged just behind the Greek Cypriot checkpoint, it hopes to entice locals to spend hundreds of euros on artworks.

"This is one of the last points left unopened. It has to open," said Maria Anaxagorou, 32, a gallery partner. "It will mean more people coming to the area."

(Writing by Michele Kambas; editing by Andrew Roche)


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[zan]

What's the matter Halil, don't you like accurate statements.??

The International Respected News sources always writes what is what.

For example the following;

Occupation is called Occupation, and not keeping the peace.

Invasion is called Invasion, and not Intervention or peace operation.

President of Cyprus is called the President of Cyprus, and not Leader of the Greek Cyprus.

Leader of the Turkish Cypriots is called the Leader of Turkish Cypriots and not President of Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus.

Just a few terms used that comes to mind. Isn't it nice to read news that states the facts rather than fiction.

This is what I meant by "Respected International News Sources".

And then along comes Kikapolous ikos and tells us he is TC...Hahahahahahaaaaaaaa...Truth is such an elusive word to you dear heart :roll:

And to you Pinocchio, everything is a lie, unless of course it comes from your own mouth.!!

Ever wondered why you are called Pinocchio Zan.??

Surely your nose must have given you a clue by now.!!

Oh I have forgotten, just an another reality you want to overlook.

By the way, I just post what the news is in the International Arena. I do not write them. Perhaps you think otherwise Pinocchio.

Yeh! Because you are an obsessive child that thinks a word is going to stop me in my tracks......Harram olsun sana guzum!!!

[zan]

As soon as the question of who is going to administer the street comes up DT then it will be back to square one....No one is going to give up territory without a settlement...

[Kikapu]

Barroso: EU ready to assist Cyprus reunification efforts

The Associated PressPublished: March 14, 2008



BRUSSELS, Belgium: The European Union stands ready to assist in a revived effort to reunify the divided Mediterranean island of Cyprus, European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso said Friday.

Cypriot President Dimitris Christofias and Turkish Cypriot leader Mehmet Ali Talat are scheduled to meet March 21 at the disused Nicosia airport inside the buffer zone that serves as the U.N. headquarters on the island.

"The European Union will firmly stand behind a renewed process to resolve this issue," Barroso said at a joint news conference with Christofias.

"The lack of real progress ... has been detrimental for both Cyprus and the European Union."

Cyprus has been divided since 1974, when Turkey invaded the island in response to a coup by supporters of a union with Greece. Cyprus joined the European Union in 2004, but the bloc's benefits are only enjoyed by the internationally-recognized Greek Cypriot south.

A breakaway Turkish Cypriot state in the north is recognized only by Ankara, which maintains 30,000 troops there.

The U.N.-patrolled buffer zone prevented Cypriots from moving between the two sides until five crossing points opened in 2003 after Turkish Cypriot authorities relaxed restrictions.

One of the main issues in next week's talks will be a potential deal to open new crossing points along the U.N.-controlled buffer zone.

Barroso urged both sides to be prepared to make concessions in the negotiations. "It's important that everyone makes a real contribution to solve the Cyprus problem," he said.

"But a process of reconciliation and peace and reunification means at least two, so I hope we find the same spirit on the Turkish Cypriot side," Barroso said, adding that Turkey also had a "constructive role" to play in the process.

On Thursday, after the first day of the two-day EU summit, Christofias told reporters that he hoped agreement would be reached to open two more crossing points. One would be at Ledra Street, a busy pedestrian shopping thoroughfare in the heart of Nicosia, and the other at Limnitis in the northwest of the island.

Peace talks have been stalled since 2004, when Greek Cypriot voters rejected a U.N. settlement plan in a referendum. Turkish Cypriots had backed the plan.

A sticking point to restarting talks has been a Turkish Cypriot call to resume negotiations on the defunct plan.

Christofias instead wants to revive a dormant July 2006 U.N.-brokered deal that was meant as a starting point for new peace talks. Both sides agreed to the deal, but never made any progress.

"This small beautiful island must finally become a peaceful island and a crossing point between the EU and the (Middle East)," Christofias said. "We want Cyprus to contribute to the European Union instead of being a problem for the EU and the entire world."

The election last month of the Communist-rooted Christofias has rekindled efforts to end Cyprus' 34-year-old division by favoring direct talks between the two communities.

Christofias defeated former President Tassos Papadopoulos, who had opposed a power-sharing plans promoted by the U.N., arguing they would hurt Greek Cypriot rights.

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/03/ ... Cyprus.php

"But a process of reconciliation and peace and reunification means at least two, so I hope we find the same spirit on the Turkish Cypriot side," Barroso said, adding that Turkey also had a "constructive role" to play in the process.

[Kikapu]

What's the matter Halil, don't you like accurate statements.??

The International Respected News sources always writes what is what.

For example the following;

Occupation is called Occupation, and not keeping the peace.

Invasion is called Invasion, and not Intervention or peace operation.

President of Cyprus is called the President of Cyprus, and not Leader of the Greek Cyprus.

Leader of the Turkish Cypriots is called the Leader of Turkish Cypriots and not President of Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus.

Just a few terms used that comes to mind. Isn't it nice to read news that states the facts rather than fiction.

This is what I meant by "Respected International News Sources".

And then along comes Kikapolous ikos and tells us he is TC...Hahahahahahaaaaaaaa...Truth is such an elusive word to you dear heart :roll:

And to you Pinocchio, everything is a lie, unless of course it comes from your own mouth.!!

Ever wondered why you are called Pinocchio Zan.??

Surely your nose must have given you a clue by now.!!

Oh I have forgotten, just an another reality you want to overlook.

By the way, I just post what the news is in the International Arena. I do not write them. Perhaps you think otherwise Pinocchio.

Yeh! Because you are an obsessive child that thinks a word is going to stop me in my tracks......Harram olsun sana guzum!!! :lol:

Your are very funny Zan. On the contarry, it is you and few others who have tried and are still trying to to use unfounded accusations and words to prevent me from speaking my mind. You obviously are not able to, but it doesn't stop you at the same time.

I am respectful with those who respect me, even after many hard fought, name callings on the forum. When you are respectful of me, you will get respect back. If you are not respectful Zan, then I'm going to be all over you like a "cheap suit". The choices are with you to act civilized.

[zan]

What's the matter Halil, don't you like accurate statements.??

The International Respected News sources always writes what is what.

For example the following;

Occupation is called Occupation, and not keeping the peace.

Invasion is called Invasion, and not Intervention or peace operation.

President of Cyprus is called the President of Cyprus, and not Leader of the Greek Cyprus.

Leader of the Turkish Cypriots is called the Leader of Turkish Cypriots and not President of Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus.

Just a few terms used that comes to mind. Isn't it nice to read news that states the facts rather than fiction.

This is what I meant by "Respected International News Sources".

And then along comes Kikapolous ikos and tells us he is TC...Hahahahahahaaaaaaaa...Truth is such an elusive word to you dear heart :roll:

And to you Pinocchio, everything is a lie, unless of course it comes from your own mouth.!!

Ever wondered why you are called Pinocchio Zan.??

Surely your nose must have given you a clue by now.!!

Oh I have forgotten, just an another reality you want to overlook.

By the way, I just post what the news is in the International Arena. I do not write them. Perhaps you think otherwise Pinocchio.

Yeh! Because you are an obsessive child that thinks a word is going to stop me in my tracks......Harram olsun sana guzum!!! :lol:

Your are very funny Zan. On the contarry, it is you and few others who have tried and are still trying to to use unfounded accusations and words to prevent me from speaking my mind. You obviously are not able to, but it doesn't stop you at the same time.

I am respectful with those who respect me, even after many hard fought, name callings on the forum. When you are respectful of me, you will get respect back. If you are not respectful Zan, then I'm going to be all over you like a "cheap suit". The choices are with you to act civilized.

Speak all you like big guy......You have only yourself to fool...We already know what you are.....

Thanks for the offer of being all over me as well but I am not that way inclined...I feel I need a bath just thinking about it!!!!!!